FR: Transitioning

So I went out with my wingLook up this term man this past weekend. I was having a lot of trouble approaching. Not due to any anxiety I was feeling. I just found little to no motivation. I think I have this hang up where I want the conversation mapped out in my head. So I approach, false time constraint and proceed with my opener (drunk I love you). Once I deliver this and get the girls opinion (guess that would apply to any opener) I am not really sure where to go next. They seem to be receptive enough to my opener but my mind draws a blank, and then I get something along the lines of "Ok well good luck with that" and I tend to read it as fuck off. Which is fine, but it is discouraging. I do not feel like I am being rejected, I feel like I just don't know where to go after delivering the opener. My pattern so far is to go into a barage of questions in order to find out more about the HBLook up this term I am talking to. This seems lame, I don't like falling back on questions, I want to build attraction which I try to do with eye contact (needs improvement but getting better). But I know that I need to be building the rapport and that is where I keep failing.

The end result is I don't approach women because I really hate falling into this pattern. It bores me so I know it would bore any HBLook up this term I am talking to. It may be unrealistic, but ideally I would have the whole conversation mapped out in my head (at least my end of it) before I even do the approach. I was wondering if anyone else was falling into a similar pattern and knew how to break it.

2 comments

Jaden's picture
Tue, 10/20/2009 - 14:29

Getting caught

Try this out.
Think about what you just said, and let me quote it from what you wrote.

"Once I deliver this and get the girls opinion (guess that would apply to any opener) I am not really sure where to go next. They seem to be receptive enough to my opener but my mind draws a blank, and then I get something along the lines of "Ok well good luck with that" and I tend to read it as fuck off. Which is fine, but it is discouraging. I do not feel like I am being rejected, I feel like I just don't know where to go after delivering the opener."

Now reread that phrase you just posted.
I am going to give my input and opinion on what I believe is going wrong in your calibrations.
**** Focus ****
Carefully examine where you have put your focus on. Your focus is no longer about having fun, being IN THE MOMENT, spontaneous, and unpredictable. You are getting tangled up and focusing too much on what to say, rather than how you're feeling in the moment. Go back to a time when you had an extremely successful approach. What was going on as you were talking to her? You were probably feeling GOOD and you were feeling optimistic, in the moment, and you knew exactly what to say because you were focusing on the right things.

Once you put all of your focus and willpower on what to say, how shes going to think of you, how shes going to react, how you are going to feel bad about it, then indeed it will not be a fun approach. Stop being reaction seeking, as that is a problem I see many guys tend to have.

The reason you "...just don't know where to go after delivering the opener." is because your focus is literally on trying to go after delivering the opener instead of having an AWARENESS of the situation around you and what shes saying. Be observing what she says, and listen to what she says.

"I want to build attraction which I try to do with eye contact (needs improvement but getting better). But I know that I need to be building the rapport and that is where I keep failing."

Before you even get to rapport, you need to create the attraction, not just with eye contact. Sometimes eye contact doesn't get you the correct attraction, especially if all you do is stare at her like a creeper. How do you create this attraction?
-Intrigue her
-Cocky Comedy (Check out David Deangelo's work on that)
-Busting her balls
-Having the willingness to walk away
-DHV Spikes
And last of all, understand that you must unconsciously pound the characteristics and personalities of an alpha/dominant male into your mind. Not controlling, but having warm dominance and being a fun alpha male.

Stop convincing yourself that you are constantly falling into a negative pattern.
Stop trying so hard to map things out in your head, instead work on your inner foundation.
Stop focusing on the wrong things
Stop trying so hard to build rapport so quickly and learn that in order for her to be able to answer your questions and be comfortable, she must be attracted to you.
Stop being reaction seeking.

And finally, understand that this is a process.
I hope this helps you!
Good luck!

Ciao,

-Jaden

IRONCROWN's picture
Mon, 12/14/2009 - 21:46

DON'T DO THIS!!!

THE BIGGEST MISTAKE OF PEOPLE IS DOING FALSE TIME CONSTRAINT. YOU SHOULD FINISH YOUR CONVERSATION AFTER DOING TWO TO THREE SENTENCES. I AM NOT THE BEST TEACHER BECAUSE I AM NOT AS POPULAR AS MYSTERY OR STYLE. GO TO THIS ITE WWW.SEDUCEINSECONDS.COM AND THE PERSON WILL EXPLAIN IT TO YOU ALL THE BULLSHIT THERE IS IN THE COMMUNITY AND SHOW A LOT OF INFIELD VIDEOS.

P.S. I AM DOING THIS SINCE I WAS 18 YEARS OF AGE

P.P.S. DON'T LISTEN TO JADEN BECAUSE HE HAS NO IDENITITY.

P.P.P.S. HE IS A SOCIAL ROBOT!