FR: First Field Report Ever! 3rd night practicing openers.
Friday – 4/16/10
Went out to the Grasshopper (Northern NJ) for the 3rd time. Last Friday (4/9/10), I managed to only open one 2 set
during the entire evening. Last night, however, I opened a total of 3 ... I'm excited to see some progress, albeit slow. Tonight's set
s were also more attractive (5.5) and that's partly why I'm stoked at what I was able to do. Tonight's goal was to practice openers.
1st set
I did my birthday opener on a two set
. The ladies were standing fairly close to the entrance of the bar. The interaction occurred shortly after I entered.
This is how it went down: (ladies were talking to each other)
Me: Can I get your opinion on something?
2 set
1: Sure
Me: My friend has been dating this girl for 2 months and her birthday is coming up.
My friend asked me what he should get her.
set
1: What kind of girl is she? (I froze at this point)
set
1: How long have they been dating?
set
1 (Brunette5): Walked over to my ear: He should get her something expensive and a day at the spa would be nice. (She said a bunch other stuff as well I just didn't catch all of it)
Me: I have to get back to my friends.
Comments:
Honestly, I was expecting them to give me a straight forward answer - They definitely caught me off guard after I finished the opener. I froze and tried desperately to find a way to describe the lady in my opener. I noticed that the lady I had posed the question to, came over to my ear and gave me a very detailed response (Possible IOI?). I didn't pay much attention to the content... I was just so thrilled that it worked... Perhaps, I should have.The other girl seemed to feel left out and moved off to the side... Is this a bad thing? Another thing I noticed is that they might have had trouble hearing me. I thought I was speaking loudly... Sometimes, it can be hard to know how loud to speak. I guess don't want to lean over and speak in her ear just yet until after you've developed the attraction?
I couldn't think of a good transition – Perhaps the best friend's routine... I haven't tried it on anyone yet. I told them that I had to get back to a friend.
2nd set
I tried my Cheating Boyfriend at Mall opener on this 1 set
. She was on the third floor leaning against the wall.
Me: Can I get your opinion on something?
1 set
: sure
Me: My friend is dating this guy. When I was at the Mall the other day I noticed him with another women and they were holding hands. Should I tell my friend about what I saw?
1 set
: You should definitely tell her about it.
Me: But won't she get pissed.
1 set
: You should still tell her.
Me: I need to get back to my friend.
Damn, I need some transitions. I guess I'm getting a little impatient. Still have a long way to go.. But enjoying the process. What do you guys think of my openers?
My 3rd set
wasn't too spectacular. I approached a women and asked her for her opinion on something but she just said no and shook her head.
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2 comments
Make your opener a DHV
First of all, Congrats on rocking out 3 openers. Keep it up and in no time at all you'll have it dialed in. Here are some observations and pointers.
1) Make sure you are giving a false time constraint and rooting your opener. I open like a champ, but if I leave out these two components ("I can only stay for a second" and "I'm asking because...") the set
s don't hook as often. They will shut you out before you can DHV
.
2) Try sticking to one opener a night or for at least your first three set
s. This helps to get you more congruent with the material. Have established answers for the the questions they may ask (this helps especially if you have a wing
that you are working with and the topic comes up again) or better yet, don't be so attached to how you answer, just say whatever comes out of your mouth first. You will be moving on from the opener to another thread in a few seconds anyway.
3) You expected the girls in your first set
to give you a straight answer and they didn't. This is a good thing! The more you can stir their emotions the more material it gives you to stack forward on. For example you can tease them on their comments and have fun with them to raise their buying temperature/ emotional state.
4) The cheating boyfriend opener has a few holes in it. I like that you are using your own material because it makes it more congruent, but this one in particular doesn't quite sit right. By asking the girls how you should proceed with making a moral judgment in your life is a DLV
, A superior man is strong in his convictions. Make this one about your friend rather than you. Maybe try something like " Hey guys, I need a female opinion on something but I only have a second." and bodyrock out. "My buddy and I just saw his little sister's boyfriend making out with some guy outside the Cheesecake Factory! Should he tell his sister and break her heart or does he just let it slide and convince her to find a better guy?" Play with it and see what works or just stick to a community tested opener that is known to work well.
5) Remember to enter the set
at the same or slightly higher energy level then the set
you are approaching. If you are vibing at a lower level than them they will blow you out quickly because you are bringing them down. Our energy level is our the 1st value demonstration in a set
. Are you going to give an instant DLV
or an instant DHV
. To get my energy level up to approach I will talk shit with my wing
about the opinion opener like: "Dude, this is driving me crazy, I just gotta know! Here, you go ask those girls over there, and I'll go ask these girls over here!" and Bang: our energy is up and we are in set
in less than 3 seconds. You can also do this on your cell phone if you don't have a wing
. Improv your way to elevated energy.
6) As far as speaking loud enough, try to talk myou lower abdomen. First start by breathing into you lower abdomen (inhale & fill the belly) then speak with the exhale from your belly. This is how choral singers and stage actors project their voices. If I am going to a club I will turn the music in the car "up to 11" and then practice the opener I am going to use that night till it sounds loud enough without it sounding like I'm shouting.
The energy you carry behind your opener is most important. If you are cool, confident, and strong in your frame and in your presence, the material does not matter so much. Remember. The opener is as little as the first 30 seconds of seduction,(though it certainly can be longer) However once its through, cut it loose and stack forward ("I really have to get going, but how do you guys all know each other"?) Then just keep stacking forward.
I had an opener I came up with last weekend that was so simple, but it was great for calibrating how good my vibe was coming into the set
. "Hey, I only have a second, but give me your input on this. You know the song ______________________ (insert obscure song from the decade you grew up in, for me it was the 80's). Her: "Yeah" You: "Who the hell sings it? I'm asking because we were just having dinner at this seafood place and there was a guy rockin' out on the piano there and singing this song. The whole bar was getting into it, but no one knew who sang the damn song. (This actually happened that night and I opened the cute hostess at the restaurant cause I saw her lip-syncing it). Depending on my delivery I got an array of different responses to it despite my wing
;s hesitancy for me to use it. So, just keep all these pieces in mind and keep practicing.
Best of Luck!
D$
Thanks
Hey D$,
Thanks for all the great observations and pointers. I'll definitely try to implement some of those ideas. I'll keep you posted.
Strategizer