FR: My First 5-minute Number close! - now what?

Just started getting good at this, now I need advice from the pro's - this is my first post, hopefully of many.

I was on FIRE Monday night, I was out with some older married producers at Katsuya in Hollywood, and was feeling like THE MAN cuz they all admire my single life and ability to talk to anyone so as we were smoking our post-sushi cigarettes outside the club i caught a glimpse of this girl walking around the corner. I stopped mid conversation and caught her gaze, and she was fucking smoking hot! We met eyes instantly. I legitimately thought i recognized her so i put on the half-smile "are you who I think you are" look, straight into her eyes. This being Hollywood she thought that made her hot shit and turned on this sexy, runway model walk, and gave me the "yeah so what" look right back. Without losing direct eye contact for a second, My look changed to "who do you think you are" and then so did hers.

Meanwhile all the guys I was with had stopped talking and were watching this exchange with curious anticipation. As she walked by and up the stairs to the doors, she looked away and I kept staring. She shot me one more, wtf look over her shoulder and saw I was still staring daggers, and she paused at the door. I said, "What's your problem" and she said "I don't know, what's your problem?" So I hopped up the stairs closer to her and said " I thought I recognized you and all of a sudden I get the stink eye?" Her: "Well you were giving me a pervy look." Me: "You don't know pervy, lady". She laughed. I asked her where she was coming from, she told me about a Tom York concert, meeting a friend, Blah blah blah, I told her I had to get back to my friends (false time constraint) and asked if she had an email address. "Yes" she replied so I handed her my iPhone, as she was entering it, she old me she had one too and couldn't get used to the typing, and I replied with, "Well then why don't you give me your number. I'l text you later and we can practice typing."

She said why not, gave me her number, and as I walked back down to my friends, she tried to open the door and it was locked! I laughed at her and returned to my friends as she knocked to get someone to let her in. The guys said I was THE MAN, but guess what, THAT NEVER HAPPENS TO ME!! I was on fire and went off to hang out with 2 hot british girls all night - mother and daughter team... no action from either...

HERE'S WHERE I NEED THE ADVICE!!!

I texted HBLook up this term seconds after I got her number "Hope you got in, -Pervy look guy". She texted back a few hours later, "Thanks Perv! Who are you really?" At closing time I texted her back, "Hahah whoever you want me to be. I'l call you tomorrow, we need to figure this out."

The next morning I sent hr a text at work, "I had many great adventures last night, but you're the one I've been telling this morning" (fail?) I called her that night around 7pm, left a voice mail "Hi this is Jeff, Pervy look guy, call me back" And nothing...

NOW WHAT?? HOW DO I GET THIS ONE?? How should I run the phone game? What should I invite her to do? INSERT GREAT PUALook up this term ADVICE HERE!! Thanks in advance.

6 comments

edgar289's picture
Wed, 10/14/2009 - 16:15

advice

You did great in the beggining. Where you messed was when you texted her "a few seconds later after getting her number that you hoped she got in, pervy look guy". You deserve a he-bitch-slap-you because you shouldve called the next day and shouldve had a few seconds of normal conversation then asked her out for a cup of tea. What you did wrong? Everything after you got her number.

ZenPua's picture
Fri, 10/16/2009 - 12:53

ouch

Texting with fluff was probably not a good move because it goes nowhere. Have you seen the movie Glengarry Glen Ross? ABC . . . Always Be Closing. Just texting to say "Hope you got in" doesn't advance your cause, which is to get some alone time and get to know each other. For that you need a plan. If you had texted with "My friends and I are going bungee jumping in an hour, you interested?" or some other plan of action she could join in and enjoy, that would likely have kept the interest up. Even if she couldn't join you for hang gliding over the alps or whatever, it would still ramp up her interest in you and let her know you're a fun guy, different from the others, have fun friends, etc. "Hope you got in" tells her nothing about you, which is why she asked "who are you really." Because she doesn't know who you are, and you've done nothing to change that. Likewise with your phone messages. At this point, it's easier for her to just not call back rather than try to get to know you. She should already know you enough to know she wants to know you better.

I hope that helps, and by the way, pat yourself on the back for taking things as far as you did. It took balls. You just gotta keep them balls rolling! (Holy mixed metaphors Batman.)

-ZenPua.com

Jaden's picture
Tue, 10/20/2009 - 12:51

Lack of

There are many perspectives and ways to look at your situation and fix the problem. In my opinion, I would have created more intrigue. Adding on to what zen said, saying "Hope you got in" tells her nothing about you. You even said "-pervy guy", now in her mind you have given her a frame for your impression. The pervy guy. You did a great job by saying you don't know pervy lady. But yet in the end you referred back to yourself as being pervy. In fact it shows to her that you are needy and clingy, and externally affected by your meeting with her. In her mind she's thinking "Wow, I just met him 2 seconds ago and he's already texting me, he's giving me so many IOILook up this terms too fast and hes trying too hard, I thought he was having fun with his friends and shooting the shit? I guess he wasn't waht I thought" Along with those lines of calling her, and texting her too much during the day. By no means am I trying to rag you down and tell you everything you did was wrong, because failure is but an invented concept. You didn't fail in this pickup, you merely just need to find out where you made a mistake in making the circumstances in your favor. Learn from it, and move on. You did a great job in the beginning.

Another major factor is creating intrigue and anticipation. Try learning how to really intrigue someone into wanting to get to know you better. Do it to friends, family, and anyone you know. Really master the skill of building someone's intrigue and anticipation in one's mind.

Long explanation short, you did a great job, and all I believe you need to work on is
-Intrigue
-Anticipation
-Making her understand that you have other things going on in your mind and life than texting her and calling her
-Not getting to excited or caught up in texting her back immediately.

"Give her the gift of missing you"
I believe Steve P., or Zan said that. Not sure.

I Hope this helps.
Ciao,

-Jaden

IRONCROWN's picture
Tue, 12/15/2009 - 00:00

NEVER CONCENTRATE ON THE NUMBER!

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ZenPua's picture
Tue, 12/15/2009 - 08:18

ALL CAPS = Shouting

Take a deep breath. Let it out. Repeat.

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Mon, 01/25/2010 - 05:17

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