RESULTS Are All That Matters
In Response to Noodleboy
I wanted to take a second to address the Approach Anxiety question from “Noodleboy.”
I've experienced much of the same things he has, and I wanted to share some of my realizations about Approach Anxiety that I will be going into more detail on with my students in the coming months. I wanted to give this away to you guys so you could get the benefit, too.
Approach Anxiety Realization 1: Approach Anxiety's source is both cognitive and “built-in” (A.K.A. automatic.)
We are afraid of strangers for a variety of reasons, many of which were installed in us by well-meaning parents and such, as well as stuff that may or may not be instinctual and evolutionary.
The ones that were taught to us are ... I think ... the bigger sin.
Anyone here remember or hear of “Stranger Danger ?” That's the well-meaning but misguided attempt to keep our kids safe by giving them instructions on how to avoid the creepos out there.
The reality is that well over 50% of all abductions (some say as much as 70%) are done by relatives and people the kid knows !
So in trying to protect our kids, we make them paranoid of natural socialization and further stunt their growth.
As for the evolutionary or “natural” fears of strangers … I don't hold much stock in them. Why are so many people so naturally good at socializing and approaching ? I think labeling approach anxiety as an evolutionary survival mechanism robs us of our ability to leave it behind.
Approach Anxiety Realization 2: It doesn't matter why we have approach anxiety ... all that matters is a way to get past it !
I hear a lot of theorizing about the apparent causes of approach anxiety, as I'm sure you have.
The bottom line is that why is irrelevant. It's like getting caught up in what I call the “therapy trap.” This is where we feel an emotional reward for realizations about our past by digging into our childhoods with a therapist. We get the positive juice of an “a-ha !” moment, but no new skill to move on and change it.
When it comes to winning the inner game of approaching, results are all that matters. Everything else is just cotton-candy “feel good” nonsense.
Approach Anxiety Realization 3: Don't give your Approach Anxiety more power by making it seem like a phantom menace !
It's easy to fall into a trap of making our approach fears into an angry looming demon that has the ability to paralyze us and doom us.
The first step in overcoming approach anxiety is turning your approach anxiety into a cartoonish character ... a buffoon that you can laugh at and shut down at will. (This touches on Realization 5 below.)
When we personify a fear, we take away its ability to control us.
Approach Anxiety Realization 4: Don't seek to fight your approach anxiety. You only give it strength if you do.
Humans tend to identify with our struggles. The things we fight against become our identity because we lack the passion to pursue a nobler path.
Don't get caught up in the “fight against” approach anxiety ... or anything based in this negative adversary approach. As we learn from NLP
and other areas of psychology, you only give more power to the thing you fight when you do this.
To overcome something, you must become a rallying soldier for something positive that gets you to your goal.
You don't fight fat ... you join up with the skinny.
You don't fight against illiteracy. You support reading skills and literacy programs.
In the same way, you don't “fight” approach anxiety.
You pursue open, curious social behavior ... and genuine interest in other people.
That has been my single most effective tool in overcoming this thing we call approach anxiety.
You pursue open, curious social behavior ... and genuine interest in other people.
(Yes, I said that twice for a reason.)
Approach Anxiety Realization 5:All approach anxiety can be overcome with cognitive methods.
That's right. I haven't seen a case yet where a guy couldn't get over his anxiety by really breaking down the fear and stomping that bitch into the dirt.
Mind tricks and other flashy techniques are used as “get confidence fast” schemes, but rarely work. All success I've ever seen has come from the person who had the balls to dig in and get dirty ... do a little work to think it through and poke as many holes as possible in this nebulous approach anxiety.
“Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is the probable reason why so few engage in it.” - Henry Ford.
But you know what ? It's not that hard … with the right teacher.
And you will have to do it someday. Do it now before you atrophy.
Approach Anxiety Realization 6: The easiest way to get rid of approach anxiety is to create value for other people, instead of trying to get.
Most of a guy's approach anxiety is created because his motives are against his result.
He wants to get a phone number, get a kiss, get a date, get laid.
We're a bunch of me-monkeys out there looking for a result.
Instead, when you go into an interaction and want to start creating value for a woman ... with no expectation or need of return ... your approach anxiety disappears.
If I told you that you are going to walk over and tell a beautiful woman that she has just won the lottery ... and you get to hand her the big check for a million dollars, would you not be excited about that ?
Wouldn't that be cool ?
You'd be thrilled to bring that joy into her life and be the one to go tell her.
You'd be positively motivated to go talk to her.
And yet you're deathly afraid to go over and say hello to a girl when ...
( ... wait for it ... )
What you have to give her as a man is worth way over a million dollars !
Really think about that last point I made. It's a big deal.
Turn off the TV or the X-box for an hour or so and meditate on that, and I guarantee your life will change. I mean it.
I know, I know, you're saying to me: “Carlos, it sounds so simple when you put it that way, but when I get in front of another person, my anxiety appears anyway.”
This is because we lose focus and we forget that state of experiencing how valuable we are, and we start subconsciously going back into “get” mode.
Getgetgetgetgetget …
Gimme gimme gimme gimme ….
There are other specters in there, but again, all can be overcome when you get behind your own value and start distributing it to other people.
When we're selfish with our value, we fall into scarcity mode, and our anxiety about our value to other people keeps us from connecting. And the anxiety returns.
Again, I know that some of what I'm saying here sounds like an oversimplification of the fear, but that's exactly what we need to do rather than over-complicate it. When we make approach anxiety all complicated, we are just trying to create more excuses not to overcome it.
Forget cheap pick up tricks to cover up and gloss over your fears.
Know your value, build your value, and then give it away to everyone.
I defy you to feel anxious when you're fully engaged in living a life of supporting your own value ... and distributing your ability to give.
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I totally agree
I totally agree with Carlos. I haven't really experienced approach anxiety since a while so for me it's more of a memory than anything else.
Approach anxiety only happens when we try to get from other people, because we are then dependent to the outcomes, which takes away power over our reality and makes us nervous. When you go out there to interact with the world and give good vibes without expecting anything back, what the heck would you be nervous about?
The problem is that most guys go out there to try to get.
You may still be anxious because of the fears stacked up that Carlos talked about. Releasing them is a whole science in itself, but it is also very simple. The hardest thing is to start looking into it.
Thanks...
I'd be interested to hear what other guys have to say about how they overcame their own personal demon of Approach Anxiety.
What did you do to kick its ass?
Carlos Xuma
www.carlosxuma.com
Approach Anxiety
Hi Carlos,
You really gave a lot of thought into that topic, man. That’s amazing. In my opinion you cover everything that could me named as approach anxiety so what I have to say is only an addition to your thoughts or even a perspective of what in the big picture will lead to the same points you talked about.
In my opinion, if you deconstruct the aspects that build what can be called an Approach Anxiety (AA), you'll find basically a belief (information from the rational part of our brains) and attached to that, a natural emotional response of what can be named as danger (what drives us to "hit or run"). This response is materialized by the release of adrenalin and other hormones that will make our bodies react like crazy, and that’s natural too as it’s just responding to a stressful situation. The evolutionary part of it is naturally the emotional/physical response but what makes the difference is to what (kind of information) this emotional response is attached to. When talking about AA the belief involves the other person that you are going to interact with. So that makes AA only a bad brain wiring problem that could be solved by practicing (internally and/or externally) new behaviors and consciously observing/feeling the results of them. What I name by "new behavior" happens to be exactly what you fear. So basically what you have to do is face and do exactly what you fear the most (of course when you're talking about approach anxiety or other limiting beliefs you have).
community is packed with subtle evidences that it happens (ex: the wingman, the target
–> HB8,9,10…). The woman isn’t a target! She’s probably an amazing person that you’ll get to know and if you two connect and relate to each other (the opposite of trying to “hunt” or “fighting” someone), you’ll have a great time! If a man starts an interaction with this easy going “vibe”, this is basically the difference that makes all the difference. It makes things effortless and totally natural. If someone is looking for another way of seeing things (a good belief), trying what I just wrote is an amazing start.
So when it comes on how to get rid of it, YES I believe that understanding rationally what composes your fear is important. So in my perspective the why is relevant. I believe that the rewarding feeling of the “a-ha” moment is important too, it’s exactly the reward for facing and understanding something that you repressed for many years but what I totally agree with you is that after the awareness moment you should start working on building a new belief. It’s like a 2nd phase of evolution, with new challenges and new rewards.
The “2nd phase” should be now reframing what you believe, so for that there’s a plethora of possibilities that the one who’s feeling that should try and see what suits him the best. For me timeline therapy, hypnosis are really good tools to take care of it internally but the one that brings the best results is doing in the outside world (not just in your mind) what you fear the most. So practicing on how to be social (talking to others whenever you have an opportunity, talking to girls you feel very attracted just to start a random friendly conversation etc) is the best way to get rid of it.
One thing that I learned recently and I thought to myself “wow, that’s an amazing way of seeing things!” is stopping seeing/understanding (man-woman) interactions as a hunt or a fight. The PUA
Edu
Observe
I used to struggle with Approach Anxiety when I was in my twenties, but had certainly observed it in myself and friends well back into our teens. One of the things that I'd noticed back then was that guys in their 'old age' of 40's and 50's -- and completely regardless of their appearance -- seemed to have ZERO problem with approaching women of any age...even it it wasn't necessarily going to result in 'success,' and perhaps even if they *knew* 'it' wasn't going to succeed.
And so I had to wonder: "Aren't these likely the same guys as us...just older? Weren't they likely even -- in many cases -- worse-off dweebs and losers even who had simply gotten older? If so...what is it about getting older that takes all the pressure off...?"
Confidence in any endeavor comes from practice, and I have no doubt that what they'd learned over time was that it's simply not the end (or beginning) of the world no matter what happens...but if you don't at least indicate that *you're* approachable and care-free, then the ladies will likely 'mirror' you and stay in their own protective shells as well.
Not pursuing them...just rather being easy-going and light-hearted...seems to be the key. Women do NOT like it when guys over-aggressively stomp right up to them and try to over-exert control. That just kicks in their own sort of 'approach anxiety.'
So my overall lessons-learned and advice is this:
(1) OBSERVE: If you're feeling approach anxiety...just observe it _without judgement_. It's not good or bad...it just is. Ask yourself *non-judgemental* questions about what you're feeling...and just feel the feeling. Notice also if you're feeling it in any particular part of your body (e.g., likely, the stomach/solar plexus)...and just observe it and feel it. This process alone can rid one of AA in a fairly accelerated way, as your body 'learns' after several of these exercises that there's nothing to fear. You can't tell it that...it has to learn it for itself. Forcing it only makes it dig in stronger. But it will learn upon repetition of simply observing reality.
(2) PERMISSION...NOT PURSUIT: As Etienne and Carlos are saying, just *allow* an interaction _when you're calm_, with no overattachment to the outcome. Just be there, be friendly, and go with the conversation without any overweening pre-planning. Just be. If you're all cranked up -- observe that. Ask a few non-judgemental questions, and let the answers come in whatever form they do.
As a now 50-something, I think we all learn 1 and 2 over time, just by the natural processes of life...but if someone insists on 'control' (very much including 'self' control), then the process will likely take longer.
Ninety-five percent of success is just showing up. So I'd encourage readers to just get out there, and be good to yourself and the ladies that cross your path. Be a good guy, and you can have faith and confidence in a good result without insisting upon it in any particular circumstance.
Another aspect of Approach Anxiety
Here's another aspect of approach anxiety that is very well described by this quote
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, "Who am I to be brillant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?" Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine, as children do. We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It is not just in some of us; it is in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people opermission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others."
- Maryanne Williamson
Etienne
www.shamanicseduction.com
Approach Anxiety
A real interesting story I heard about this was from Formhandle that he told at the Fastseduction event that was held in Los Angeles earlier this year about how he finally got rid of his AA. Without going into all the details, he followed this girl into a supermarket, got in line behind her at the checkout counter, and finally did his approach. What he noticed after it happened was how all the women in the place were smiling at him and how happy they were that he actually made the approach. From that he realized that women are out there waiting for us to talk to them and are disappointed when we don't, so what are we so afraid of??
Women will often say that they don't get approached often - but the reality probably is that they really mean that they don't get approached often by the guys they want to be approached by. Then when you realize that most women will also tell you that they don't really have a "type," and that they often go for guys that you wonder yourself what they see in them, and as such you should conclude that you can be that right guy.
Clifford
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Lottery winner
Ah, good question...
What I'm saying is that every man out there is worth more than a million dollars worth of fun and value that he brings to a woman's life.
(Definitely not saying that man is purely a revenue generating machine for a woman. :)
When we walk up to a woman, we have to realize that we carry an immense stockpile of value - and that women should always feel that from us.
From the good times we bring them....
And one more thing...
Never delineate between "women you will" and "women you won't." What you setup is a mindset that says you only approach certain women, and by that token you create a mindset that makes some women more important than others. So approaching the ones you "won't" makes it easy. Approaching the ones you "will" becomes hard.
You approach every man, woman, child, and small furry mammal.
Carlos Xuma
www.carlosxuma.com
i don't get it
why would you feel approach anxiety in the first place? :) you see a beautiful woman (in a club, in a bus station, in a cigarette break at the office... whatever). so you wanna talk to her, because you like her and want to get to know her better. why would you be scared or feel anxiety? sure, you can feel ANXIOUS, because you can't wait to meet her, talk to her, see her again! but why fear? i think it's stupid to accept a false premise and then try to find workarounds about it. that sort of fear/anxiety shouldn't be there in the first place! she's beautiful, she's looking at you at the corner of her eye, so get up there and talk to her! she wants you, man! why be scared about it? :))
AA - is it real or is it imagined?
Ah, I wish it were that simple, my friend.
Psychology is one of those things that's easily over-simplified.
People "should" want peace. People "should" want to get along. But we don't. And we see the evidence of the disparity between ideals and reality every day in the news.
Ask any guy in the gripping fear of walking up and talking to a woman what it's like, and they'll tell you that it's VERY brutally real to them.
Anyone out there care to add to this with some explanation of their experience...?
Describe what it's like for you to feel this when it happens to you...
I think that would help us all get a cognitive grip on what is an irrational but very real challenge.
now you don't get it :)
well in that case, one should try and come to terms with that fear per se, not "approach anxiety" - this is a flawed concept/syntagma. if there is fear lurking/boiling inside of you, fine - you need to get to the root of it and get rid of it; but that has nothing to do with women :) what have they done? :) you may be afraid of screwing up, you may be afraid of being embarrassed, you may be afraid that things will not turn out the way you planned, just because you cling to some kind of outcome and can't let go of it, or because your (stupid, for that matter) expectations are too high; all of that stuff has nothing to do with women or the approach; it has to do with you ;)
more of the same...
it might as well be fear of the unknown that gets some of us in the way. in his classic book, the art of war, sun zi says:
"If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle."
now, women are not our foes - they're supposed to be our friends :) but the issue remains the same, nonetheless; if you don't know yourself, and you don't understand women at all, you don't know what to expect, what to anticipate from this step into the unknown, and maybe this per se generates some of the fear;
if you have your shit together, even if you don't get women too well, you will do fine still :) ideally, one should have control/mastery over his own being (physical, mental, spiritual) and also possess some understanding of the female psyche
if you have that, then really - there's no point in feeling fear when approaching women or anybody else. in conclusion, an understanding (of oneself, of women, of humanity in general, of the world...) is required, not quick-fixes to an essentially non-existent problem (recte, fear of the approach)
well, that's my take on it anyway :) like DD said somewhere: if you understand how attraction works, that alone makes you more attractive to the opposite sex...