I Could Be Older Than This Hottie's Grandpa
I was married for 32 years. Got divorced in my mid 60s, and didn't have a clue what I was gonna do as far as the “dating scene.”
Got into the game about a year ago, and it's been awesome. I'm a big fan of Ross and Swinggcat, and their material has helped me out a lot.
But when I first started out, I had a real problem.
I was 65, and I realized I was only into girls who were 18, 19, 20 years old.
Women my age just don't do it for me. And women in their 30s and 40s ... some of them are fine, but my experience has been they usually have too much baggage by that age. At least for me.
That's not to say there's anything wrong with them. I know a lot of guys have great success with women this age and I'm not knocking that at all.
But I like the carefree, unburdened, adventurous spirit that blossoming young women have. I'd be out sometimes right after my divorce and just walking past these pretty young things in their sandals and halter tops made me feel alive like I hadn't in years.
Seemed like a far cry to me though. I know a lot of guys in the community tell you looks don't matter, but let's face it: I'm a short, bald guy with a belly. I figured I'd have to settle, and maybe if I was lucky I'd get to bang some frustrated housewives in their 40s.
Didn't change my reality though. I wanted the young hotties.
There's a city college not far from where I live. I'd go to the coffee shop there sometimes just to check out the girls. Of course I'd always take a book or something so I wouldn't be too obvious.
Everything changed for me one day when this gorgeous little blonde sat down next to my table with a friend.
She couldn't have been more than 19. Her friend was ugly and fat, and kept looking at me suspiciously like she thought I was a dirty old man or something. But it didn't matter because pretty soon the HB
started talking about her boyfriend.
What a story she told.
Turns out the guy is in the military, coming up on the end of his tour. She hasn't seen him in months, and lately they haven't talked much on the phone. When they do talk, he seems distant. Doesn't really have much to say.
Me, I've seen this one too many times. From the way she described it, it was obvious to me what's going on: he's gonna be back in town and he's not into her any more. But he doesn't have the gonads to admit it. So he's hoping she'll end it first and he can avoid complications.
Basically, GI Joe is acting like a flaky chick.
But what's amazing to me is these girls don't get it. The HB
thinks he's stressed or something, and her fat friend keeps telling him once he's back home he'll realize how much he missed her. Pretty hard for me to keep quiet, but I manage.
Then the whole game changes: the friend leaves.
Here's my chance. I don't even need to think of an opener, the conversation is right in front of me. But I hesitate. Seriously, what hope do I have ? I could be older than this hottie's grandpa. Hell, I probably am.
But I keep thinking ... I used to bang chicks like this all the time. Only thing that's changed is the way I look. The rest ? Same old me who always had success. In fact, I'm better now because I have so much more experience.
Think of it this way: the average 18 year old guy has probably been with a few girls. If he's good looking maybe he's been with more than a few.
But the best-looking 18 year old on earth can't have more experience than a guy who's been getting laid for 4 and a half decades.
So there was no reason for this girl not to want me, and every reason why she should. I turn to her and say, “Your friend is wrong, you know.”
She looks up. “Excuse me ?”
“About your boyfriend. He doesn't want you any more. And I think deep down you know that, don't you ?”
I couldn't believe what I was saying. Where did I get the balls to talk like that ? I fully expected her to get up and slap me then and there.
Instead, she just looked at me in silence for a moment and then nodded. Feeling bold, I went on.
“Problem is, they just don't raise 'em to be men any more.” Notice by implication I'm saying that the real men are the older generation, like me. “I see the way these young guys act, they're worse than girls.”
Again, for a second I think I've gone to far. But she laughs.
“You got that right !” she says.
Then she spends a few minutes gushing about how much she's done for this guy, waiting for him all this time and the whole bit. There's no way I'm gonna sit here holding this girl's hand like her fat friend. I interrupt her.
“You know, I hear this a lot from girls. You want him to be upfront with you, but in my experience, most girls can't handle complete honesty from a guy. They want everything sugar-coated. Are you saying you could really be open to a man telling you exactly what's on his mind ?”
“Yes ! That's what I want !” she says. And then almost like she expects me to have the answer, she asks, “So what do you think it is !?”
I scratch my chin, looking thoughtful. “Well, you're an attractive girl, so that's not the problem.” After qualifying her I wanted to give her a little value … but only a little. “Honestly, in my experience ? It's probably the sex.”
She looked confused. “What do you mean ?”
It was time for another gamble. “I'm going to be blunt with you, okay ? Girls your age are beautiful. And you know it, don't you ?”
She smiled and nodded, probably expecting some kind of elaborate compliment from this sweet old man.
“That's the problem. You think your looks are enough to keep your guy satisfied. And so does he … until he meets a woman who has more than just looks.”
“What do you mean ?” she asked, puzzled again. “We've always had good sex.”
She was opening up to me nicely. I decided to keep it up. “You met this guy in high school, right ?”
She nodded.
“See ? You only think that's good sex because you don't have anything to compare it to. Haven't you noticed a lot of young guys these days are into the whole cougar thing ? They might run around with these little cuties in high school, but then they get to college. They meet an older woman who has been around the block a few times and really knows how to please a man … and they don't look back.”
I was being pretty sneaky: qualifying her and playing up the advantages of an older lover by explaining why guys do it. It seemed to be working, but then she tried testing me:
“Then how come you never see younger girls with older guys ?”
I was completely unshaken. “Oh, you do, from time to time,” I said. “Rich old guys like Hugh Hefner keep hot young girls around as trophies. But the truth is, older guys like older women for the same reason younger guys do … experience always makes you better in bed.”
She couldn't believe it. This chick was used to having the edge from her looks, and I could sense her getting desperate as she realized that they weren't enough to keep her boyfriend around … or even a 65 year old stranger in a coffee shop. “So you're telling me you would turn down a younger woman who was interested in you ?” she asked.
“That would depend on the girl,” I said. “Don't get me wrong: some girls your age definitely know their way around the bedroom. But they're pretty rare. And those girls make up for lack of experience with other things.”
“Like what ?”
If this went too much further, extraction was going to be a problem, so I decided to do it now. “Listen,” I said. “I'd like to help you, but … maybe this isn't the best place. Take a walk with me.”
She looked around, then giggled; she'd actually lost track of where she was and what she was talking about. That's got to be a good thing, I figured.
There was a park across the street so I took her there. As soon as we were relatively alone she asked me, “So what is it these girls have ?”
I wanted her to spell it out, so I played dumb. “Which girls ?”
It was cute: she looked around and then in a low voice said, “These young girls that can keep a man satisfied.”
“Well, a sense of adventure, for one.”
Right on cue, she answered, “I'm adventurous !”
But I wasn't going to push that one. “That's good,” I said. “Then you've taken the first step. But the next one is much harder.”
“What's the next step ?”
“Honesty,” I said. “Which is really just freedom with what you want.”
“What do you mean ?” she asked.
“Well, when was the last time you saw your boyfriend ?” I asked. She told me it had been almost a year. “And you've been faithful to him all that time ?”
“Of course,” she said.
“So you haven't had sex in an entire year,” I said. “That's not easy to live with. Sometimes, you really want it badly, don't you ?” She blushed. “See ?” I said. “That's what I mean: freedom means not being embarrassed about your desires.”
We walked in silence for a moment, then in a low voice she said, “I do.”
“Do what ?” I asked.
“You know,” she said. “Want it.”
“So you're telling me it hasn't been easy being faithful to this guy ?” I asked, and she shook her head. “Because you'd like to be having way more sex, wouldn't you ?”
She nodded.
“It feels good to admit it, doesn't it ?” I asked. “To just let all your desire out and say what you really want.”
She laughed a little shyly and said that it did. Then a moment later she added, “It's weird but … this is really turning me on.”
“That's what I mean by being free,” I said. “You have no idea how good sex can be when you're really free.”
She was quiet for a moment, then looked at me and said “But I want to.”
I'd timed it perfectly, because my flat was just on the other side of the park, and we'd reached it. I smiled at her slyly and said. “This is my place. Are you coming up ?”
She just grinned and didn't say anything, which I decided to take as a yes. Seems I was right, because she followed me inside.
When it was over she told me that her military boyfriend never fucked her like that. Which probably means the chump never bothered to turn her on like that. Go figure.
Since then, I've been working that angle with these much younger girls: taking the wise older guy approach but then qualifying them a lot and playing up their lack of experience as a disadvantage with all men.
I can't say that I've had success every time—sometimes the age gap is just too much for them—but so far I have been getting fairly consistent results with this.
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ZenPua says: “for those who say the situational opener doesn't work . . .”
This story is a good example of how being present in the moment to what's going on rather than waiting to spring a canned opener can work. Situations arise around us all the time, if we are open and aware, that allow a natural conversation to blossom. If canned openers work for some, that's great, but you owe it to yourself to try a natural approach and see what happens.
Just my 2 cents.
ziggaza says: “Random questions of a starting PUA”
Nice story. WP. Yet I would like to start with some whiny questions (nm my poor english).
- what do you do if you have no 'nice' flat?
- what do you do if you have friends constantly whining on you that you desrespect women with these approaches. the comments are pretty harsh;'why do you tell lies' (i usually dont). 'you treat women like objects'. etc. all the stuff i just cant take.
- how do you not lose the real thing you want. Being a ONE woman whom you love etc.?
thats it from me,
props to the whole community, keep it up
Zigga