Breaking Into the Castle to Steal the Princess
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Does a Wedding Ring Stop You ?
Amongst my friends, this is a controversial topic, somewhat unnecessarily so.
There have been times when I have been talking to a woman at a party and she might slip in the fact that she has a boyfriend, is engaged, or is married.
The fact is, that is what she is now. Not necessarily in the future.
Contrary to popular belief, possessive love is not forever. And, in my humble opinion, marriage and the stages leading up to marriage (going exclusive, engagement, etc.) are one of the strongest expressions of possessive love society condones.
It is my belief that the only love that endures is the love for all things that stems from the interconnectedness that underlies all things. The need for marriage and "commitment" is incompatible with this love. The commitment to going exclusive seems to imply, “I am going to loan you my pussy (potentially forever) so you need to put up some security to borrow against it.”
But I digress. Marriage is not always forever. Non-exclusive does not mean, "I don't care for you." I say this because this is probably where the resistance from others to my outlook originates (correct me if I am wrong.) That is, they believe I should not be “interfering” in something that should last forever.
I mean, a marriage breaking down is a big deal right ? God forbid if “I should be responsible for that happening.”
Anyone who blames me for wrecking their relationship is not taking responsibility for their role in it.
I have never told a girl to leave her boyfriend, fiancé, or husband to go with me. At the same time, I have never stopped her from coming with me because she was “attached.” All I do, and all I can do, is show up and be myself and act on my desires, because that is the only truth I possess. To suppress my desires because of some artificial union is to spit in the face of my truth (although I am not perfect, and sometimes I do spit in the face of my truth.)
After that, it is for her to decide. I acknowledge a woman's ability to decide what she wants. If she believes that her needs are better served by me, then giddy up. I have done her a service by getting her out of a relationship where she felt short-changed, and done him a service by providing him with a tough lesson (should he choose to accept it.) If she believes that her needs are better served by her current lover, then I have done them a service by reflecting the strength of their bond.
And, I must emphasise, once this has happened (I use my gut to determine this, it could be as simple as a genuine “He makes me very happy, nice meeting you,”) I wish them only the very best, because we are all connected, and I only wish myself the very best.
I must also emphasize this: no amount of explaining will be able to simmer down the rage of a guy whose heart has been broken in two. While he may come to realize this as a growth opportunity in time, you may be seen as a “home wrecker.” I would not follow the “bro code” and try to explain to him how you are serving the universe by giving her what she needs and providing him with a growth opportunity. You have been warned.
The only exception (so far) to this rule, is if a girl is in some kind of relationship with another guy and I am not so into her. I know that even if I tell her that we are not going deeper than casual / one time sex, this will not register with her psyche and it will be like I hadn't said anything at all. I acknowledge and appreciate the power of a woman's sex drive.
For the record, at the time of writing, I have not broken up a marriage (to my knowledge.)
My question to the readers is, if a wedding ring does stop you from getting to know a woman on a deep level, if a wedding ring serves as a boundary, what does that tell you about your belief in your ability to give her an amazing experience ? Try on the idea, that your inhibition in exploring a woman who is "taken" is because you feel like a thief who is breaking into the castle to steal the princess.
She is not a princess. He is not a prince. You are not a thief.
He has no right to her.
You have no right to her.
She has the right to choose.
Don't let a wedding / engagement ring stop you from showing a woman what a great guy you are. You might be saving her from investing in “the best she thinks she deserves” and you might be expanding her mind to what it really means to be with a great man.
Empower her with choice.
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Testerosa13 says: “Married Woman”
If you want to venture into those waters best find out if her hubby owns a gun, then think about all the hassle you will go through just to see her, cuz most married couples know where their spouses are 24/7. You will rarely see her at night, if at all in the PM.
If a woman tells me she has a BF
, Hubby, I usually say" how wonderful for the both of you, have a great life!", and watch their reaction. She's expecting you to try and pull her, don't take the bait. You have her off balance now, and she knows you're going to walk, so she may say" oh just kidding, so many guys are always ...blah blah. In that case proceed.
Rich woman are a different breed though, they usually have a higher degree of freedom, but just the same be careful, you never know what a betrayed man is capable of.
What you're pointing at in your discourse is a form of one-itus, and putting her on a pedastal, "Oh she's so special I've just got to have her" . BS, walk away and avoid tremendous headACHES for yourself.
message_mi says: “married logistics”
Overcoming the hubby is all about logistics. Is it day game or night game? If I meet a woman on a subway, I check for a ring. What married women really need is strong DHV
, because the husband is always giving off DLV
. I'll tell you one thing that works though: be brazen. I actually tell married women that I like to sleep with married women. Want to know why? They'll shit test you and maybe act all shocked but you act like its no big deal. You're not telling her this because you want to fuck HER, its just part of your reality and it comes up in the conversation. Then you change the subject, see? That makes her all curious. She'll bring it up again. Its the same principle as telling a girl you have five gf
s when she asks if you have one. They can't stand it, they want to know if its true. That's why i say, being brazen coupled with DHV
is key. If she sees your a rockstar, it'll make hubby that much more of a loser.
As for hubby owning a gun, your paranoid, dude. Keep in mind these guys getting cheated on are low quality males anyway. You DHV
enough even he is going to accept your reality. DHV
, DHV
, DHV
.
stonecoldleroy says: “DHV when he's got a gun”
DHV
when he's got a gun pointed in your face? "Yeah I know I've been fucking your wife, man, but I make a million bucks a day and have dated strippers in every country!" Let me clue you in on something, bro, you're not gonna peacock too effectively with a grapefruit-sized hole in your head.
eightfold says: “what are you talking about”
I think you're confusing DHV
with inner game. Having the attitude that you're unbreakable is pretty much critical to any interaction, although I question the wisdom of trying to AMOG
a violent, jealous husband with a gun.
As for skyhigh's comments, I think there's some truth to that, but you're not really her "savior" either way; neither "freeing" her from an unhappy marriage nor "helping" her to reconnect with her hubby. She is a free and fully responsible adult. If she's a confident woman who wants to have an affair, you'll be able to enjoy yourself. If she's not, stay far away. You'll either wind up with a situation where she's using you to make her husband jealous, or she'll be some kind of drama queen, constantly agonizing over her guilt and whether or not she should confess. Even if she's the sort that sits on the fence "thinking" about cheating, you shouldn't be wasting your time on an indecisive cock tease.
stonecoldleroy says: “you're kidding yourself”
Women are all like that. They're fucking children who expect you to think for them. If you're stupid enough to do it, they'll use you up until there's nothing left and move on to the next guy. Marriage is a perfect example of this. If you're banging a married broad you can be sure 5 years ago her husband was in the same position you're in now, and before that it was someone else. It will be someone else after you. They're fucking vampires. Quit bothering yourself about what they want or don't want. Get what YOU want, and throw them away with the used condom.
annie says: “How can i make my hubby”
How can i make my hubby happy and attract towards me who has more interest on other girls.
skyhigh says: “I'm of two minds about this.”
I'm of two minds about this. When women get married, they're expecting the world. I mean, we all know the story. Even little girls dream of their wedding day: the white dress, their prince charming carrying them off to a castle in the sunset, etc. Then they find out that life is hard, and maybe their prince charming is just an ordinary guy with faults like everyone else. Maybe that white dress isn't looking so white anymore.
What do I mean by this? Well, it's easy to look at this disappointed bride and say "here's a woman who is trapped in an unhappy marriage. She doesn't even know all the wonderful experiences that she could be having right now." You can see yourself as setting her free, opening her mind. But you're only getting half the story. What about love? Maybe her husband is resisting temptation every minute of ever day just because he loves her. Maybe he understands that no one is perfect, that no matter how "alpha" you are, you're a human with weaknesses too, and so is she, and if you say yes to a life with someone it means accepting that, in good times and in bad.
I met a married woman in a chat room once, and it was obvious she was curious about "exploring." She sent me a couple pics, and she was a very attractive woman. The PUA
in me said I should go for it, but the human being in me said "Wait." I got her to talk a bit about her husband and the truth is she really loved him. She didn't know why she was in the chat room, why she was doing any of this. She just wasn't happy.
Instead of doing what a "PUA" would do ... taking what my dick wanted and rationalizing it by saying i was "freeing her," I asked her more about her husband. Turns out, what she really wanted was just to reconnect with him. But they hadn't talked in so long. So I said, "Why don't you try talking to him?" She was crying by the end. And the next time I saw her online, she said she HAD talked to him, and things were better now.
The point is, its easy for you to tell yourself that you're doing her a favor, but maybe you should consider that the guy isn't the problem. Maybe they're just two people doing their best, and the difficulties of life have just taking their toll. Instead of using your knowledge of women to manipulate them into satisfying you, you can use it for altruistic purposes, and help a relationship that might otherwise be in danger.
message_mi says: “You're missing the point”
You're missing the point. How often do you hear in the wild of the low quality lion males challenging the alpha. Sure the guy might own a gun, that's not my point. Your attitude is what is going to save you. If youre a low quality male you're going to be threatened by hubby, he's gonna know it and hes gonna dominate you. Worse yet, the wife is gonna know it. Nothing is a bigger turn off than showing that you're intimidated by the male who is already failing to satisfy her. Can you get killed? Maybe, but why should you live your life in fear. You could walk out into the street today and get hit by a car. If you even acknowledge the guy's gun, your are DLV
and basically letting him intimidate you. Take my word for it: DHV
is key.