2010/03/11

A Cute Gold Digger Is Still A Gold Digger

Why a simple dinner date is a minefield of screening and tests … and how you can successfully navigate it.
She's getting closer and closer... to your wallet

Jason Foodgeek:
Both male and females have been asking me who should pay for beginning dates (first, second, maybe third.)

The problem:

Many women will offer to split the check on a beginning date. Some will take offense and not see you again if you don't pay for the whole check, even if they offer to pay part. Many women are screening men out for cheapness. Some women insist that a man let her share the cost. I've even had women insist on paying for a first or second date. There is no consistency.

What do I tell men ?

Schedule things that are free (go to the zoo, wander an eastern market, visit a museum, etc.) Alternatively, choose dates that are inexpensive like coffee or drinks during happy hour, and pay for it all.

If it goes well, you can then bounce to food, dessert, etc. … but by then you know you are doing fine and want more time with her. Plus, bouncing helps with comfort.

I don't recommend starting with dinner, since that means you have to pay and spend 1.5 hours with a girl who may turn out not to meet your standards in one way or another.

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You can also do a second date free or inexpensively. For example, take her for a hike, or cook for her at your place. Also, cheap ethnic dive restaurants work if you can sell them as the best tacos (or whatever) around.

Usually by the third date, many women (especially the more professional ones) will split the check with you and mean it when they offer (they'll be more insistent.)

Keep in mind that it is better to be someone who gets girls through personality and game than someone who gets girls through status / money. A cute gold digger is still a gold digger. Besides, when you get as many dates as we do, it is good to keep expenses down, especially early on with a particular girl.

In a relationship, I do believe we should both contribute somehow (assuming she has the means.) Some of the younger or less professional women do expect you always to pay, but they may not have the means to contribute.

What did I tell a class full of women Thursday evening when they asked who should pay ?

Female student: Who should pay, the man or the woman ?
Me: Would it bother you if you offered to contribute something towards the first date and he accepted ?
Her: Yes.
Me: You need to be honest in your actions. Men get conflicting responses to this. If you don't want him to accept, don't offer to contribute. If you want to contribute, you can offer. You can also let him pay for dinner, but tell him you are taking him for dessert (or it's on you next time) if you want to contribute but don't like the “halvesies” idea.
I also don't like the mindset that some women have that “the person who asks the other out pays,” because it is men doing the asking out. Take turns planning and paying for dates and I'm ok with it.

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Donjp's picture
Fri, 03/12/2010 - 01:47

Donjp says: It's tricky tricky.

As a matter of fact, this jut happened to me. I meet up with this hottie and after a couple weeks of texts with no 2nd day and a flake, I ignore her. She texts me back and I do an impromptu after gym dinner at our local chinese spot. She shows up and things are going great, and then the bill comes. We both ignore it for a min, and then I place my hand on it.

Let's make this interesting. I got this bet and if I win, you pay. If you win, then I pay.
(I picked up this bar bet in the community and ran it, of course, I win)

Her (opening the check): Oh this is easy.

She pays the bill, we stay for an extra half an hour talking we call it a night (I saw her eyes getting heavy) I tease her for it and we say goodnight.

I send a final text later on: Next time I gotta teach you some more things, have a good night.

Her: Dinner was wonderful. Perhaps...

So now I'm thinking it's all good, so I keep playin it like I did before. However she went cold turkey on me. No answers or anything.

My thinking is that even though I put out the bet, played the game, and she laughed through it all;

NOT PAYING THE BILL SHOT ME DOWN.

Especially living in Miami, we latinos have more defined gender roles. Men ask girls out, men pay for everything.

Can I break from those unscathed? Calibration is needed.