I taught her a few English words, like "Camel Toe" and "Milf."

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I've spent some time working on some dating videos for a newspaper in the UK recently, trying to give some generic tips to people who're struggling with their dating lives. The first of the videos has just been released on Youtube today. It features a simple set of 10 basic dating tips. If you get the time to check it out and leave a supporting comment, I'd appreciate it ! ca.youtube.com/watch?v=IR25MXK1ir8&feature=channel_page

Answering comments received on his article “The SNL Process,” posted here: www.cliffslist.com/node/548

I got this one comment which I thought added something, so I'll post the comment and response here ...

My reply:

I don't post things which don’t work very well for me, but the only thing that really matters is your results.

Try changing your approach and seeing what happens. I personally don't have the patience for day 3 or day 4, and when you can consistently get the same thing on day 1, most likely neither will you.

Following this formula, guys who have the basics down should be able to pull a SNL every time they go out. It's quite a simple process.

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I met HBMexico through a work friend. A petite 25 year old English student. Quite adorable. After a few beers it became apparent that my buddy wasn't going to close this deal. She was quite a fun and flirty chick. She got up, and I asked him if I could take her home, and he said, "No problem." We talked it out, and he didn't seem to care. He's pretty cool. His roommate scoffed at my bold claim.

I sort of felt bad, he obviously had a crush on her, but she's leaving town in a week and is good to go. My buddy, being Mexican himself, said, "Oh man, you can't, she's a Mexican girl." Whatever that means. I replied, "Chicks are chicks."

I gave him another chance. Had him sit closer to her, and told him to escalate, try to get her home, but he didn't believe this was possible.

I increased sexual tension with teasing, kino, push pull, and stories. She was attracted quickly. I taught her a few English words, like "Camel Toe" and "Milf." We joked about that for hours.

Come closing time, I offered to walk her to the skytrain. My buddies watched in awe and slight disappointment as I left with her arm in arm.

I tried to bounce her home, but she had to study. I tried to kiss her, but she gave me the cheek. Oh well.

The next day my buddy invites me to a pub with HBMexico and his roommate, a Spanish guy. I arrive first, and immediately open a two set on their clothing. One girl was wearing the same American apparel hoodie as myself. I asked if they wanted to hang out and they said, "Sure."

When my buddy and the gang arrived, I introduced them, and we all drank together. I was flirting with the girls, and they loved us. Later, I asked one of them to come home with me, but she had a boyfriend. I'm sure she would have loved to come. They number and email closed me.

My buddy was sitting beside HBMexico most of the night. But we would talk, and she would lean over him to touch me. Eventually we ended up beside each other, and continued heavy flirting. At one point, I pushed her head away from me, and told her, "Go back to Mexico." Roommate guy busts on me and says, "That's not how to treat Mexican women." I laughed and replied, "Dude. She loves it." HBMexico was laughing and practically on my lap.

I got up for a beer, and chatted up the cute server. I've tried to bring her home before, but she lives with her boyfriend. But still, I made her laugh and gave her a spin. When I returned to the table, the guys were giving me props, and the girls were giving me IOIs. "She's my friend," I said. But they knew I just met her.

Eventually, the two original chicks leave. My buddy says, "Zardoz, man, did you just meet them ?" "Yeah, five minutes before you showed up." "That's amazing." "Not really. Just takes practice."

Then Johnny, this drunk old guy from work shows up. He knows I'm a ladies man, so he's giving me mad props and talking to the girls, which creeps them out a bit. Then some other old guy shows up and doesn't say a thing. I'm basically Master and Commander of this Love Boat.

I'm annoyed because we have no women. So I tell HBMexico I'm going to get more women for the guys. She scoffs a bit. Then I hop to the next table and engage the girls there. They wanted to hang out, but Johnny the drunk moves in and creeps them out. Then they leave, giving me a kiss on the cheek on the way out. I tell Johnny he needs to work on his game, and he agrees.

HBMexico is super impressed now, and gives me her full attention. She goes to the bathroom and my buddy says, "Zardoz. I'm cool with you hooking up with her. Bros before hos, man." "That's awesome bro. Look, if you want me to back off, just say the word." "No man, she likes you a lot. Go for it." "Dude. There's a whole city full of chicks, and I'm going to teach you how to meet them." "I just don't know when to go for it." "You're just a little too nice. Girls want a man of action. I'll show you, ok ? We'll meet chicks any night we go out."

So HBMexico comes back, and 1 minute later we're kissing. She is squeezing my thigh under the table. We leave, and my buddy says, "Ok, HBMexico, I'll take you to the train." "I don't want to go home," she says, as she looks at me. I say, "Don't worry, man. I'll get her home. See you tomorrow, ok ?"

We walk to my house. I talk about whiskey and hot chocolate and movies. We make out on every corner. I always stop first. She gives like 5 shit tests by stopping and saying, "Well, I have to go home now." I reply, "Shut up, we're almost there." And we make out.

At my house, I take her into my bedroom to watch youtube, we make out, get naked. She keeps telling me, "You're bad !" And I agree with her. I get that a lot lately. Sometimes I say, "Yeah, and that's why you like me," or, "Nobody's perfect."

We make out more, until finally she says, "Zardoz. Do you have condoms ?"

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My friend Leone has been taking Salsa classes, which is awesome for two reasons:

1. Since I've been dancing for a very long time, I'm glad I've got someone who's into it as well.
2. The report you're about to read.

So last week, Leone's friend from Kingston was in town, and since Leone had his Salsa class not far from where I live, I offered to keep his friend company for the duration of his course.

I meet them at the Salsa school and we all start talking. A few weeks earlier, I had come to Leone's Salsa class and had seen this extremely cute shorty. She's just fucking adorable. Seriously, it's rare for me to find a girl truly adorable. Either I'd do her or I wouldn't, but when I say she's cute, she just has that feminine radiance and that irresistible giggle.

The reason I'm writing this report is actually to demonstrate how giving value is an amazing thing. Most people I've met through the community always want something-for-nothing. Takers, not givers. I've seen this girl twice, and I've complimented her on her looks and her "cuteness" more than most guys compliment their 3-year long relationships. I'm a big fan of trying different things, being an asshole, being a sweetheart, etc. We all have an asshole part of us, a sweet part, a generous part, etc. With this one, the gut instinct just said to treat her like an irresistibly cute, vulnerable princess. And so I did.

So see her at Leone's Salsa class and I just melt because of how cute she is. I had spoken to her once a long time ago (and told her how she's short and sweet, but that was about it.) I open my arms and hug her super hard, I pick her up, and her presence just makes me smile and feel alive. I notice she's sort of resisting the hug, or maybe feeling self-conscious. I don't care, I hug harder, and I tell her "You're so fucking cute, why the fuck are you so cute, I hate this." She laughs and asks, "Whyyy ?"

So I take off with Leone's friend. Really chill guy, by the way, too bad he doesn't live in Montreal. We hang out for about an hour and come back to the Salsa school. The whole time, I'm thinking about the cute girl. I think to myself, "Leone's probably going to hang out with his buddy. Let me try and pull off an instadate with mini-cutie."

I get there, and as all three of us guys meet, I notice she walks past me, turns and smiles. She knows I really like her. And quite frankly, it was sort of a "giving love." Whether she liked me back or not didn't matter, I just wanted to enjoy her beauty and cuteness. I ask her where she's going and she says she's going home. I tell her to wait next to me for a minute. I ask the guys what they want to do, and they seem to want to go have a drink or something. So I just tell them, without asking for the girl's consent, "All right, Miss Cutie and I are going to go for a walk around the block, I'll call you guys afterward." They leave. She's confused, she's like "Where are you guys taking me ?" I say, "We're going to beat you up and rape you." She laughs. I say, "It's nice out, you and I are going to go for a quick walk and some laughs." Then,

I lead her to my apartment, get the discount ticket (honestly, I do have one lol.) We walk back to the video store, get a movie, and I ask her what time she wants to be home. She says, "10ish." I tell her I'll make sure she'll be there by that time.

We come back to my place. I don't even play the movie. I'm just so happy she's present with me. She's so adorable that it just lights me up. Every time I look at her, I just can't help but smile.

I open a bottle of Wild Vines Cooler, only 6% alcohol content. (www.wildvines.com/images/home/home_pic1.jpg). Chicks dig this shit, though. It's only 6.95$ at SAQ, and for a cheap son of a bitch like me, it works out great. I usually drink half a bottle with one chick and the other half with another. I never really used alcohol to sleep with women, not because it's bad, but because I personally am not that crazy about alcohol. I'm fucked up enough as it is. Drunk Persian would probably turn the entire city into an orgy.

I light up some candles and we listen to some light salsa. Then some bachata. I keep asking her why she's so cute. She just giggles more lol. I couldn't resist kissing her, so I teased the shit out of her. I let her kiss me, while I was closely brushing my lips against hers.

From there, I gave her the general honest talk about who I am, what I expect, and what I promise. It's gotten as simple as this these days. I'm tired of going on a 20 minute monologue. I say something like, "I love the way you are, your energy is irresistible, and I would love to see you again and be good friends with you, but I can't promise you more. We'll be good friends, we'll grow together, we'll have fun together, and unlike a relationship, our friendship will never end. And our kisses or our making love is just a celebration of our connection and our friendship." This kind of shit is foolproof. This is my own combination of stuff though, it feels real to me, don't go around repeating what I say. You'll come off as uncalibrated and weird.

From there, I very slowly escalate. I keep asking her, "Are you comfortable with this ? We don't have to go fast, simply looking at you makes me happy, you're too fucking cute." She says, "No, I'm comfortable."

Guys, you won't believe this, but at some point I even stop and I say, "You know, I think every man looks for a woman he truly finds this cute, whose beauty and femininity never ends. And I think every woman looks for a man who can truly make her feel like the most beautiful, cute and adorable thing on the planet." She says, "Yeah, I know." I say, "I know every guy's in love with you at school and everywhere you go, they just don't tell you." She says "No, it's sooo not true."

Anyway, escalate to sex. She asks, "We're going to see each other again, right ?" I say, "I don't think I would want to live if I wasn't sure I could see you again, you're too cute." Awesome fucking blow job. Jesse Jane style.

Remember: Give a lot of value. Try going out and lighting up everyone's day. Stop getting all in your head, or putting your chest out trying to be Alpha Man. Just be nice to people, but have your boundaries of what you like and what you don't. Draw the lines for people. There's nothing inherently wrong with complementing a girl, unless you do it in a needy way. Everyone likes being complimented. And like I always say to my friends, if the chick acts weird when complimented, she's probably not the kind of girl I want to have around anyway.

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