Don't act with her like you are dismantling a bomb
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Ross Jeffries:
>From a question sent to me, via email, by a reader:
What's all this stuff about being a "cocky/funny" "Alpha" male? Is it true that "busting" on a woman and being "Alpha" is what it really takes to get the kind of hot women most men really want?
Ross: Look: there is nothing wrong, per se, with being "cocky and funny". Hell, I even gave advice on exactly how to do this way back in 1988 when I wrote my original book, "How To Get The Women You Desire Into Bed". But cocky and funny, by itself, is not going to get you laid, unless you happen to already be so good looking that she gets a tingle in her clit just by looking at you.
What cocky and funny can do is get you past her initial, "Is this just another loser guy?" screening tests. It will get her attention, and hold it...for a little while. It will get you past her first set
of screens and keep you in there for a little while.
The problem is, "busting" a girl like this eventually has to turn into something better and deeper or she is going to get bored, insulted and blow you off, unless as I said before, you happen to be so good looking you make her wet just by standing their.
Can you really get women just by doing what a great looking guy does to get them?
Could you win a fist fight in a bar by doing what a guy who is 6 foot 10 and 350 lbs of solid muscle does to win a fight - just make sure you throw the first punch and then jump on the guy?
So, cocky and funny will get attention and get you in the door. But then, as I keep saying, you need to be able to lead the conversation into the topics and themes that are most likely to trigger her deep and intense feeling "recipes" so you can stick your dough in her oven and bake your cookies, good buddy!
Now, as for the alpha male theories. First of all, these guys are postulating some kind of evolutionary biological mechanism in a woman's mind that somehow makes her ready for mating if you just act tough and push her around, and constantly show her who is the boss.
Aside from the fact that there is, in fact, no scientific evidence at all for such theories (and in fact, studies of our closest genetic relatives, the pygmy chimp or bonobos show the opposite - that it is the males who are co-operative and stick around to help with the infants that actually get laid the most!) it misses a larger point.
It is not that women like "Alphas", however badly defined that may be. The reality is that humans, male and female, like and respond to leadership. And leadership has little or nothing to do with the silly, high school games.
Now leadership isn't just about being bossy or pushing people around.
leadership is about having a twin set of skills, a set of skills that both balance and compliment each other. Those are the skills of being able to strongly guide and set the direction and also being able to listen and gather information.
The problem with always being "Alpha" is that it requires you never co-operate, never relax or loosen up, and most importantly never listen to or gather information about the woman you desire.
Asking questions and gathering information about a woman is viewed as trying to "prove" or "qualify" yourself and makes you look like a pussy.
Yes, to some, showing any curiosity at her at all will trigger her contempt, and have her brand you as a loser, and down into hell you go.
Now, will some emotionally twisted, hate-filled women interpret even the slightest curiosity about them to be a sign you are a loser, to be avoided?
Sure. These are the women who believe they are pieces of shit in any case; their idea is, "Why is he asking? Can't he see the piece of shit I am? He just wants to fuck me anyway, so get on with it. Show me what you can do for me and don't ask about me."
If that's the kind of woman you want, go for it. Don't let me suggest that this is the most extreme example of the worst kind of woman, and other gear and twist themselves and their approach to turn into someone who matches and compliments the kinds of idiots these women are.
On the other hand, if you want to draw and attract women who have at least some mild esteem and value things besides only status and stimulation, consider this:
In fact, listening to a woman while you set a strong direction and remain in the lead is an ideal combination for rapidly appearing to her as very attractive.
Nice Guy Vs. Jerk-A Totally False Choice To Screw Up Your Mind
The problem is, we guys are given a false choice between two bad extremes:
1. Be the "nice guy". The problem with nice guys is, they not only listen to a woman to find out where she is at, they actually wind up going there themselves, totally losing themselves in her emotions, desires and wants. They let her reality over take and rule their own! yucch!
2. Be the "jerk". Now, jerks have no problem holding a strong desire and intent. The problem is, they don't care at all about a woman's reality so they never even bother really find out who she is, what would really deeply please her and so they wind up having to constantly recruit new women to sucker in! Again, yucch!
The true skill set is being able to keep your own desire and intent strong, while at the same time recognizing, listening to, and gathering information about the other person. this ability is a core, key skill to not only being truly "Alpha" with women, but to being a leader in life in general, not just with women, but with men as well.
And this ability is part of what gives women that positive "vibe" that makes them drawn to you.
Another aspect of being truly "Alpha", in terms of being a leader, is the ability to look at what you are doing in your behavior and thinking with both ruthless clarity and total and complete compassion and non-blaming.
You see, most people won't even look at their mistakes, for fear they can't correct them or for fear that they will hate themselves and beat themselves up over them.
And the few who will look at their mistakes usually get so depressed or angry about it, they fail to really ever correct them.
So I'm here to tell you that this very rare form of believing in yourself-the ability to embrace your mistakes and quickly learn from them without attaching pain, blame or self-hate puts you ahead of 99.9999% of the population on this planet.
And it is exactly this kind of super-rare real "confidence" - the confidence to move ahead and keep improving yourself and trying new things - that will make you massively attractive to women in a way that they won't be able to "put their finger" on.
Remember, unlike us guys, women pick up on "vibes". This "vibe" of true Alpha will get them so hot and horny, they won't understand why they are wetting themselves around you. And you'll never have to put them down, act like a moron, or "bust" on them like a High School boy who's got a crush on some girl in study hall.
This is the real, dignified confidence of a true leader, a man.
The final aspect of a being alpha is being able to gain control over your beliefs, intent, awareness and design for yourself the kind of person you would like to be. This requires not just the use of will, but also of imagination and envisioning yourself and your future. Again something that requires discernment, discipline and direction.
Becoming a true leader, a real "Alpha" may be a bit more complex and require more discernment, direction and depth on your part. But it's the way to attract and enjoy women you can like, love and respect.
Think about it.
> A guru master: My best field report, imo. My main GF had a friend from out of town come stay with her for two weeks. Her friend was a cute blond 19 year old virgin, HBv. a solid 8.5 - 9. (They're all ten's at that age, aren't they?) Just the sweetest thing you can imagine. My GF unfortunately works alot, so HBv was going to have to spend most of her vacation alone. How... sad. This is where I came in and took over. I really enjoy spoiling girls, but don't anymore, since they view it as supplication, etc. So with this one, I went all out. I took her all over the city, every day, for two weeks. I did things, fun things, like holding her over my shoulder and gaming sets. All sets will explode open if you have a pretty 19 year old virgin hanging off of you, giggling hysterically. At night, when my primary GF got off work, that's when we would all go out to bars to drink, dance, and for me, to game up more and more sets. By the end of week one, I somehow made it okay to make out with both of them, anyti
me I want
ed, so it was like having two girlfriends. Every time we went out, they would dress up and help me peacock, and everywhere we went we walked French Promenade style. oh the looks people gave me. And the girls! They would run up and grab me, screaming how hot I was, asking to take pics with me... It was wild. I peacock really well now, which really helps too (ripped jeans, heavy eye-liner, spiked hair, 4-5 cool bracelets, an arm band, cool 300-dollar boots, etc., etc., I am a ten now)...
Ross: Whenever I read these kind of reports, I always try to ask, "What is the overall rule I can extract out and use for myself, since some of the behavior(peacocking with eye-liner and spiked hair, in this instance) is something I am not going to do?"
Here's a question for you, guru master: let's say you had an invitation to a very high-class charity event. Say an auction or dinner to benefit some hot celebrity's(Shannon Elizabeth runs an animal rescue organization as an example) favorite cause.
How would you apply peacocking in this venue where showing up with spiked hair and eye-liner might make you look like a nutcase or total freak? Or would you do it precisely for that reason?
The trouble I have with these kind of posts and reports is, they tend to reflect a "hyper" life style where elements just wouldn't apply for guys not in that situation.
A guru master replies: I might do it precisely for that reason (to stand out, to look good, and to imply that I don't give a shit).
but, let's face it, there are some venues/parties where ripped jeans, etc. just won't fly. Also, what are the girls looking for? Do they want rockstar-badass dude, are they gold-diggers, or churchgoers, or what?
imo, the point is to blend in and stand out. If I'm doing PU in a church, I might wear a t-shirt that says "jesus is my homeboy". If it's a place where the chicks are looking for X-quality-whatever, then I will peacock in a way that conveys "Not only am I "X", I'm fuckin' turbo super X, baby!"
C'Ducer:
I just attended the dating seminar held by Doc in Montreal this past weekend (www.set nalife.com). It was one of the best workshops I have attended and it is worth many times the workshop fees. I would also like to take this opportunity to thank the following people,
Doc - You really opened my eyes on the difference between talking about facts and experience. Now I have a specific goal and milestones I want to hit when I open a set with somebody. Your routines of getting themselves to let go is worth gold. It takes my game to the next level. Other gems I learned from you includes making friends with guys in the clubs and how different outfits attract different kind of girls. I never thought about those things before but yet it makes a lot of sense and is very helpful.
Rami - No matter how good I thought my delivery was, you always made it better and smoother by adding or changing a few words. That were awesome imput from you. With your macho image outside and yet a smooth operator inside, I just don't think those ladies in Montreal have a chance...
Mary - Your honest feedback on the video part of the workshop really improved my conversational skills. Nothing can be more valuable than getting an opinion directly from a woman on how you are doing. After the video section, you told us honestly how you felt when each one of us asked you about certain things or made certain comments. Now we know what is going through a woman's mind when we do our initial approach. Because of you, I learned how to let my routines flow more naturally. And this is something that nobody else was able to show me.
Caroline - You did such a great job as our fashion consultant. In two hours of shopping, you changed me from 'Not q' to 'gq'. And I have received compliments from other women on how well I dressed that night when we met at the club. I will definitely be back and do more shopping with you. This is a very important step for us men to improve our physical attractiveness. You also made other students like Mike and Claude look awesome.
Mike - You are a popular guy and I was trying to figure out why. Then I noticed you always point out the good things about people around you. No wonder people like to be around you so much. And since you laughed at all my jokes, you just made a friend for life, pal.
Claude - You are a man with a big heart. Your easy going demeanor and all those interesting experiences you have make you a natural player. I wish I had that many interesting stories to tell and make the connections also.
Cliff - I was really impressed how knowledgeable you are about the game. You seem to have a answer or solution for every situation. We definitely have to hang out more so I can pick your brain and learn more.
I consider the money I spent on the workshop a very good investment. I was able to improve my game, my look, and meet some really good people all at the same time.
Thanks again to all of you.
Lovedrop:
Review of Shark Audio cd from www.playboylifestyle.net
I've realized that I'm probably not the best person to review products because I rarely dislike a product that comes from a real PUA. I believe that every player with some skill has something to teach me. Shark is a good enough PUA that if I don't learn something useful from him, the problem must be with me - and that's my frame. I encourage everyone to be open minded about various pickup systems, especially when the teachers are known to be in the field regularly.
I've held off on this review for a while because I wanted to play around with Shark's ideas in the field and have thus far not had the opportunity to do so. But I think I've listened to it enough that I can post a useful review so here goes.
My first impression of the cd was that it's pretty funny. Especially when I first started listening to it, I found myself cracking up constantly. Some of it is Shark being intentionally funny, though much of it, I suspect, was that he was being unintentionally funny :P I still quote parts of it to my friends in that Croatian accent and we bust up laughing.
The more I listened to the cd (it definitely requires repeated listening) the more I came to understand and appreciate Shark's philosophy and methodology. If Shark says something that you don't quite understand - a metaphor or whatever, just keep listening until it makes sense because he definitely has a point with everything he says. For example, the first time I heard him say, "Don't act with her like you are dismantling a bomb," I didn't really understand his point and assumed it was just a funny Croatian/English confusion. But later I realized he was saying, "don't be timid and sweat every detail of your interaction with her as though it matters to you that much." Etc.
In the first part of the cd, Shark proposes a frame by which to perceive reality. Which is, that we are all zombies in a "Matrix" of society. Our social programming is designed to benefit society as a whole, and this programming occasionally conflicts with our own individual interests. This programming allows a man to feel confident and powerful with women only if he has achieved certain society-approved standards such as a good job, nice car, nice body, etc. But if the man has not achieved these types of things, the "society programming in his head" acts as a blocker and prevents him from feeling confident and going after exactly what he wants.
Shark points out that we are able to quickly evaluate a woman based on her physical appearance, and that likewise a woman is able to quickly evaluate us based on our congruence and sense of deservingness as we interact with her. The thesis is this: If I am confident and congruent with her, that demonstrates that the society programming in my head has allowed me to behave this way, which means to her that I'm likely to be successful according to society's standards, making me one of the rare, desirable males that she fantasizes about and has prepared herself to meet from a very young age. By training myself to become aware of the society blocker in my head, and to disregard it and act powerfully, I can "trick" the woman's filtering mechanism.
Shark points out that when a man is being blocked by his own social programming, he feels on the inside that he doesn't truly deserve the woman - even though he wants her very badly. Thus, when he interacts with her, he will come off like he is either making excuses for himself, or like he is trying to fake being a confident man. (Or both.) Women are very intuitive and can easily smell an Excuser (AFC) or a Faker (RAFC). These are words that Shark uses often on the cd.
The first exercise on the cd is designed to activate your society blocker so that you will feel it's pressure and be able to recognize it's influence in the future. Pickup truly is about inner game, and the tactics on the cd are all very simple and all pointed towards achieving this new belief system and powerful internal state.
There's a sample phone call from Shark to one of his girlfriends that is just hilarious and very instructive at the same time. ("I had fucked her sister, so she was a bit pissed off. But she had the hot body.....so I called her...") The way he talks to the girl is reminiscent of pimp talk and helps demonstrates how to emotionally lead a woman in a conversation.
Towards the end of the cd, Shark talks about bar and club game, and it's obvious that he's basically describing exactly what he does when he goes into the field. There's no group theory. He describes how most men act in the club (the "circle of lamers") and by contrast shows how he acts instead. He gives a set of openers and tactics for interacting with a girl, along with lots of advice for dealing with various situations along the way.
It's Croatian Direct Game - engineered to make the girl feel like "her prince has come." There's a lot more to my own game than what's on this cd, but to be honest I really enjoyed it and I'd recommend it to any of my friends. Take that for what it's worth :-)
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Shagmeister:
Re: Shark's Audio cd!
I've just finished Shark's cd. I guess most of you guys are not into the Direct Approach. However, I think I should offer a critique on Shark's direct gaming method about his "I like you" game.
Surprisingly, Shark has indeed produced a powerful audio cd about his game. It in fact departs from the indirect PUA of Style/TD/Mystery, etc. I liked the simplicity of this audio cd for a number of reasons:
1- Shark does not focus on game routines to impress HB's to get laid!
2- This means the PUA's brain is free from being fried with short circuiting mind tumours trying to remember rigid routine formats whilst gaming an HB - thus no added pressure. I prefer this because now I can focus on my presentation combining BL (body language) and vt (voice tonality) for better impact! I mean, no one would like to be caught cold shittin' bricks like Papa did with socialite 'ugly' Paris Hilton!
3- Shark underpins his method with a lot of background material relating to inner game qualities that a PUA must have for success in the field.
4- Moreover, he is ruthlessly clear as he is precise as well as funny too.
5- Interestingly, Shark has several "I like you" game openers that at first seem lame, but on clarification with backbone explanations behind them are perhaps the most powerful openers I have come across in use. Importantly, these openers are universal in structure and can be used almost any where in any given situation.
6- In addition, Shark himself acts like a predatory Shark. Debris fields awash with obstacles, AMOGs, cockblockers means nothing to a Shark and neither to Shark himself. Once he sees a target he goes for it - his social proof and disarming of others comes by the way of body language, etc. This is explained on audio but of course not demonstrated.
For me, Shark's direct approach is an additional dimension to my game that compliments my caveman arsenal as well. I kind of liked the timely arrival of Shark's cd as I'm in the process of using only bear knuckle stuff that hits right to the core!!!
The only reservations I have for this cd is that it's a single Volume print. In addition, from my personal perspective, I would have liked Shark to explain his tactics to what I call bitch/brat behaviour-management of HB's, since all PUAs should have this in their focus when HB's get out of hand!
Mark B.:
There is this 19 year old kid that trains with me at the gym a few times per week. He is an average looking guy but in excellent shape. Last week he came back from a week stay in the Dominican Republic, where he boned 4 chicks, two locals, one from Europe and one from Canada. He said that as soon as he took his shirt off at the pool he had literally the entire deck staring at him, and over the course of the week he had one hottie after another walk up to him at the resort and in the nightclubs. Up here in Toronto, he gets the same level of attention as down there as he gets chicks starting conversations with him in stores, bank lineups, clubs, everywhere. But he said he did not fully appreciate the importance of being in good shape until he went down south and realized the extent to which it matters.
Last week while at a public library, I struck up a conversation with this little Indian hottie near the computer area. I said "hi" and proceeded to engage in conversation. After about 10 minutes I asked her for her e-mail to which she replied she would rather go for a walk with me. So out we went walking about. While on our walk she told me that she is moving in mid-September but now stays at a hotel room by herself and that she does not have much contact with her old friends. She then asked me if I was hungry and said that she could make me somthing to eat if I took her to her hotel room. So we found my car and I drove her and went upstairs.
But nothing happened as I began getting a strange vibe from her that she was not all there mentally. I found some inconsistancies in a few things she said that I did not mention but of which I made a mental note. For example, she would say that she does not have many friends but then would tell me about what this one friend did to her and what another one did to her. She would also say she has not dated in a while but would tell me about some guy she has been seeing off and on and how boring he is and does not do anything exciting, whatever that means. I felt that if her and I end up doing anything together she may also misinterpret it and accuse me of something. In the end we simply watched some tv while she made some rice and chicken. We ate and I left after listening to her babble for another hour.
I think that sometimes we succeed when we avoid problems as much as we do when we score.
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New Dating/Seduction Seminars & Workshop in Montreal by doc!
Doc, who many of you know from his great interview here last time and all too rare but outstanding posts on this list, on Mystery's Lounge, and the Montreal Lair, is bringing his seminars and speed dating events to Montreal. Previously they were mainly held in Toronto as part of the Learning Annex, Doc is now setting it up here and plans to hold events on a monthly basis.
The website is www.setnalife.com. Registrations available on the website. The events are Dating Secrets for Women, a 3 Hour seminar (cost $50) and Dating Secrets for Guys; a Guide to The Art of Dating (also 3 hours and $50). There will also be a speed dating event in the evening for $50. You can contact Doc by email at seduction.school@sympatico.ca.
The fall calendar has a full weekend seminar and makeover in Toronto on October 22-24. He also has 3 new books coming out this fall under the setna Dating Manual Series. Volume I (to be released this week) deals with the psychology of attraction, first impressions, and working on your inner game, Volume ii (coming in September) deals with tactics and strategies to go from meeting her to dating her, and Volume iii will deal with Managing Relationships.
Full-weekend Dating Makeover workshops will be offered soon (including a half day with a personal stylist, video tape analysis of body language, and live practice sessions with dating coaches beautiful women who will give the guys on the spot feedback on how they come across and what to improve). If there is a group of 10 or more guys interested in a seminar (or 5 guys for a workshop, he would consider making a special trip to their city).
This is a great opportunity to learn from a real master.
Mystery Method Workshops:
What method are you using?
If you are opening groups (or sets: 2-sets, 3-sets, mixed sets, etc) of people with the 3 second rule by stacking indirect openers (including false opinion openers), false time constraining (discovered by Style), demonstrating a higher value to your romantic interest’s peer group with high octane DHVs while she obliquely observes (locking her into her own set with a prop), and simultaneously performing false disqualifiers (which include negs) on her with the intension of disarming her peergroup and then isolating her to rebuild her self-esteem once you have enough IOIs (indicators of interest) so you may share in a comfort and trust building effort and then build in a jealousy subplot to solidify her attraction for you, you are using The Mystery Method.
If instead you are only approaching women who are alone, you are greatly limiting your options and quite likely alienating your target's friends. Do you want a lonely woman (why is she lonely?) or a woman who already has a healthy social lfe? Truth is, healthy women have healthy relationships ... sometimes good friendships with guys. Like it or not, you will have to meet these women with men in her group.
Women of beauty are rarely found alone. Don't miss the opportunity to meet and attract them with social proof from her very own peergroup. Group Approach Theory (gat - created by me) improves your options and increases the chances for attraction dramatically over Single Approach Theory (sat).
The guys who are great in this game know that they can improve their game ten-fold through seminars and personal coaching in-field workshops. Think about this: Why did so many of the greats who use my gat (Style, Tyler D., mtl_PUA, and others) take my seminars and workshops? What started them off to greatness in this game? Can you see the co-relation may in fact be a causation?
If you have never taken a seminar or workshop before, it's time to finally reconsider. They are life-transforming. I have conducted dozens of them. I am currently conducting a bootcamp and will accept only 5 people. Workshops and seminars were for many of the greats the difference between great success and failure. If you are ready, give me a call and sign up. If you have any questions, give me a shout at 323-219-8696 (Mystery) because email sucks, or visit www.Mysterymethod.com and email me your #. We need to talk. Man to man.
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Major Mark (www.trucor.com) has announced his schedule for 2004:
*Introduction To Hypnosis -- The New Curriculum -- Las Vegas September 20-24
This year we were asked by a national hypnosis group to develop a New Curriculum for the training of hypnotists -- one which would reflect the absolute best of what has always worked while incorporating our own cutting-edge discoveries. We wanted a curriculum that was so comprehensive in explication and exercise that the graduates could walk into an internship anywhere in the world, secure that they were the best-trained hypnotists in the place. The result is being rolled out over five days in Las Vegas. This is your chance to immerse yourself in the most comprehensive approach to powerful, positive, permanent change ever presented!
Send mail to Cassi@trucor.com with questions or comments about these seminars.
Call to register: 419 882-8543 or go to www.trucor.com
Double Your Dating live! new Seminar! We will be reviewing all of the new DYD products here soon, including the monthly interview series in which David DeAngelo interviews "Dating Gurus" such as David X, and many others.
new 2004 Seminar Schedule:
Saturday, October 9th: ‘Meeting Women in Bars & Clubs.. and Other Public Places’ (New York City)
Sunday, October 10th: "Cocky Comedy’ (New York City
Tentative: Las Vegas beginning of 2005.
You can order all your DYD products and register for seminars through this link: www.doubleyourdating.com/cl
new products from dave riker
Check out Dave Riker's website - he has some new products available and is available for personal coaching.
Riker's Seduction Log - Live Seminar
If you always wanted to hear more field reports, with full details, and even some recordings, then this seminar is for you. Dave Riker (Ross's co-trainer for those of you who don't know him) spends about 3 hours each evening going through his personal Logs and notes and provides full reports on Sarges, many from start to close (finish). And that's a full "close" by the way, not just an email address or phone number!
The seminar is held in conjunction with Ross Jeffries Speed Seduction Seminars. Ross's seminar is during the day (and Riker presents at that too) and then Riker does his seminar in the evening. And even if you do not attend Ross's seminar you can still attend Riker's.
For full details see the web page at: http://www.daveriker.com/logseminar/track/cl.htm (site is either inactive or no longer relevant)
Be sure to check out his "Reviews" page on his site. Many guys that have been in the game for a while, and attended a lot of seminars, were just blown away by Riker's Log seminar.
Introducing 1 on 1 Badboy workshops:
Badboy is a Croatian PUA from Zagreb who has spent almost 4 years in the game. He is also a respected poster in Mystery's lounge.
To see some of his stuff, search for posts by "croBadboy" on mASF or read one of the recent issues of Cliff's list.
Workshops are 1 on 1 for 3 days.
Each day consists of a 4-hour seminar and 5 hours of active in-field work. Each night you will make 20-30 approaches with your teacher to get field experience. 1 on 1 training makes it possible to answer any questions you might have and cover the most important aspects of the game in detail. Teachings are tailored to your level in the game.
The basic structure of the workshop is:
Day 1:
Social intelligence/emotional intelligence
How to dress, peacocking vs. dressing style
Alpha-male bodylanguage secrets
Attitude (inner-game) and getting a good seductive voice
Difference between emotional and party type girls
Social dynamics in clubs (2sets/3sets/lonewolves), know your city
Openers (sets with males vs. only-girl sets)
Day 2:
Difference between PUing alone and with a wing
Different tools for getting attraction
Power of contrast (bad boy & nice guy in one)
Stealing their frames
Passing shit tests
Push-pull
Isolation tactics(2steps)
Day 3:
AMOG tactics (the AMOG handshake, group set AMOG destroyers)
Boyfriend destroyers
Passing LMR
Secrets of good sex
How to manage a good relationship
More bodylanguage secrets
How to turn Coffee dates into fuck-fest in just 1 hour
How to turn a 0$ date into a time she will never forget
Difference between PUing in different places (small towns, big cities, colleges and the difference between certain clubs and the girls who go there)
Badboy says he can write a pages of what he does with guys because it's not just PU. He opens their eyes to life, to understand how to live successfully.
For more info, email Badboy at badboy@playboylifestyle.net. See Badboy's new website: www.playboylifestyle.net
germany
September 16-17-18 Germany (Berlin)
australia
December 2004 Australia (Melbourne and Sydney) Dates To Be Announced, between Dec 25 and Dec 31
all workshops in states are canceled until Badboy comes to States again.
There are seats available now.
Price : $850 You can make a deposit ($100) for a workshop on Paypal and send money to: nightlife@playboylifestyle.net
Thundercat's New "Seduction Lair"
Get the latest News, Rumors, Tips, Tricks, & Analysis on the Pick-Up and Seduction community! The site is updated daily with lots of free and exclusive content.
Also a good way to keep up with things without having to navigate mASF. Drop By tsl today! www.seductionlair.com/
The Art of Approaching: Learn to meet any woman, any time, any where. The most difficult hurdle for most men to overcome is that of the initial Approach. This comprehensive eBook gives you over 35 unique Openers, as well as a step-by-step roadmap to help overcome your fear of approaching forever!
Sanek has a new website up at fybb.eluid.org/
Check it out and see his comments.
Impact Interaction (www.impactinteraction.com) @ London
Angel Caido, RyobI and Lockstock have been running Workshops and Seminars in London since the beginning of the year. The workshops are small in size (trainer : student ratio of 2:1 as max), so students get personal attention on sticking points.
The workshops include:
- Basejump: For approach newbies who need to get internal game and basic attraction skills in gear
- Field Interaction: To perfect your bar/ club and street performance
- Solid Game: Everything good except lots of flakes? Few end results? End to end game sticking points covered…
For more information go to www.impactinteraction.com or contact them @ contact@impactinteraction.com.
Flirting Weekend Bristol (uk) - 23/24 October 2004
Flirting Weekend London - 4/5 December 2004
Learn how to develop immense pulling power in every aspect of your life!
"Flirting isn't just about impressing the opposite sex and picking up a partner, it's about getting on with people", says Peta Heskell, the founder of Britain's only Flirting Academy. "Great flirts do it with everyone -flirt that is!" Flirting is a way of interacting with people that makes it fun and easy to connect with them and makes them want to be with you. Become super sexy, develop your conversation power, boost your confidence, courage and self esteem and find out how to approach strangers and feel good. You may be looking for love, want to make more friends or improve the way you interact with people in general.
Flirt with life. Flirt for love. Flirt for fun. Flirt for success.
For more information about the October Flirting Weekend in Bristol, contact
LifeTalks - tel. 0117 973 1010, email info@lifetalks.co.uk or visit www.lifetalks.co.uk For more information about the December Flirting Weekend in London and other workshops with Peta, contact The Attraction Academy tel. 0700 4 354 784 or
visit www.attractionacademy.com/
Have you ever asked yourself...
* What does it take to make a woman feel totally comfortable making out with me - even if she barely knows me?
* How do I get women to want to sleep with me? After all, what good are all those "bedroom techniques" I learned if I don't even know how to get her back to my bedroom in the first place?
* Why do women melt around some guys, but they are totally unresponsive to me? What do they have that I don't?
Wouldn't it be nice if you knew a guaranteed way to "get physical" with any woman you go out with? Have you ever been on a date with a woman, and wondered *how* you can start "making out" with her? (by making out, I mean kissing, hugging, holding hands, etc.)
Jason King has just released a not new report that will teach you everything you need to know about getting *close* to a woman on a date.
Jason is an absolute master at making out with a woman on the first date. Whenever he goes out with a woman, he seems to put them under some kind of "love spell", and they want to make out with him more and more as the date progresses. By the end of the date, the women usually invent all kinds of excuses to invite him back to their place.
There is no other person out there who is teaching these skills. If you've ever wanted to learn how to make out with a woman on the first date... not weeks or months later... you must check out his site.
"Seduction Tips-Seduce the woman for you today"
www.pmmarketing.org/seductiontips.htm
Maximillian Hell:
I have a PU journal up on livejournal. Right now it's mostly just a record of my sarges--but comments are welcome.
www.livejournal.com/users/maximillianhell
Visit these sites (and give me your comments on their products):
http://www.sexualrapportmodeling.com/jump.php?a=2350 (site is either inactive or no longer relevant)
Gunwitch has also entered the commercial game. Go to: www.dynamicsexlife.com/
Daniel:
If you are looking for a wing and you are a guy from Romania, you can check on our forums at www.seductierapida.ro/forum and you might find one.
Carlos Xuma:
Time is running short for all of us, no matter how young or old you are. Don't waste precious years learning by trial and error (and most likely not at all). Get the information on how to improve your dating life today. Make the changes you need to make to get the love, sex, and relationships that you want and deserve to have. Download the dating black book right now at: www.datingdynamics.com/ebookstore.htm
A few sites to check out:
Mike PilinskI is the author of "Without Embarrassment: The Social Coward's Totally Fearless Seduction System"... a unique method of meeting girls that will have you making up for wasted time spent living in shy-guy hell from the very first moment you test it out. Check it Out Here => www.highstatusmale.com/.
David Wygant (www.whatsyourexcuse.com & www.mydatingagent.com).
Check out Payton Kane www.seduceandconquer.com. very interesting. There will be a review of his product here shortly.
Erick Kand has a new website that showcases Hypnosis Stage Shows for fun and entertainment: www.HypnosisEvents.com
The Foundations of Seduction
Hi, you know something? When it comes to seductionhey, when it comes to anything--how you feel has a huge impact on the results you get. But the way you feel doesn’t have to be determined by your surroundings, your expectations, others’ behavior, or the tides and stars. You can guide your own feelings. By doing so, you can adjust and enhance your results. You can replace frustration with the satisfaction of tangy, blood-red, salty-sweet resolve. When you can change the way you feel, you can change what you experience… and what you encounter… and then the world stands revealed as something you yourself partially create. Sometimes, to begin claiming the victories you deserve, all you need is a simple little tool: a way of channeling your own emotions. A way of tapping your inner fire. A way of taking that inner fire, and letting it melt your external obstacles. A way of changing all that you feel, about all that you experience. Of course, you may not need or want such a tool. For some, the ability to guide and drive one’s own emotional experience is pretty basic stuff. Some people shrug off rejection, feel wonderful almost all the time, and easily attain their goals. If that’s true for you, and you don’t think you can add to your abilitywell, you may be right. In that case, my new cd may not be for you. On the other hand, should you want a tool meant to ease the transition to seductive success… to productive success… to any kind of success, maybe this new cd can be of use to you. It’s called "Foundations of Seduction". You can get it for $29.97 plus $5 Priority Mail s/h, by going here: www.sexualkey.com/ Just enter "$34.97" into the FlexPay box and then email me at info@sexualkey.com with your shipping address and a note that you’ve ordered "Foundations of Seduction". If you’re outside the U.S., please add an additional $5 for shipping. Have fun! jd www.sexualkey.com/
Louis and Copeland's "freedom with women" seminar dates
To find out more about "Freedom with Women", contact
davidc@howtosucceedwithwomen.com
how to succeed with women Ron Louis and David Copeland have their Mastery Program Tape series available. It has some very good stuff on it and that, in combination with other pieces that you can pick up here and from the other products mentioned can be a help. For those who are just starting out learning how to deal with women, this is an excellent basic daily course to take you through the process of dealing with women. For those who are more advanced, you should pick up a few good ideas from this set of tapes. howtosucceedwithwomen.com/
Advanced Macking:
In case you want a step by step guide on how to get into one-night stands, check out Anthony Berger's Advanced Macking manual. What makes it unique is that it is engineered towards making it happen the same night you meet them. To learn how to persuade women back to your pad, check out his site: www.advancedmacking.com/Discount.htm
Michael:
If you want to improve both your pick up game and your understanding of women on a deeper level, you've got to come out to my Dating Wizard Live Seminars in Toronto. It is two full days of non-stop immersion - including a live pick-up component - giving you a whopping,eye-opening insight into how to be successful with women on a whole new level.
There are also awesome guest speakers at these seminar:
To learn more about this special seminar, go to:
And follow the "Seminars" link.
And if you haven't downloaded my eBook, "The Dating Wizard: Secrets to Success with Women", then that's the place to get started.
Inside, I explain step-by-step how to approach women, how to get instant dates, how to get physical, and how to sustain her interest if you desire a relationship. Best of all, you won't have to be a jerk to outdo the jerks!
Download it now at:
www.thedatingwizard.com/ And follow the link to "About The Dating Wizard"
Free hypnosis mini-tutorial
The UltimateSeduction Yahoo group, at groups.yahoo.com/group/UltimateSeduction/ is sponsoring a free one-month mini-tutorial on Conversational Hypnosis. This tutorial, presented by the hypnotist Archangel, is sectioned off into five parts:
1. Trance Words
2. Rapport
3. Persuasion Anchoring
4. Pacing, &
5. Leading
Although less than halfway through, members are reporting some highly entertaining, and some startling, success stories. The UltimateSeduction group has the advantage of having more than a few women on-list, enabling members to get some very pointed straight talk on their techniques. There is nothing to memorize - only a handful of very simple, and very effective, techniques. The group is gaining about 200 new members a week and is lightly moderated.
Anyone may join the tutorial at: groups.yahoo.com/group/UltimateSeduction/
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