It makes THEM chase YOU
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Answer: I want to thank you for your comments - I am amazed that the event could be giving off that impression that you could go and not learn something. I would have thought that the 2005 event and DVDs would have demonstrated how phenomenal this convention will be. ALL the presenters have been advised that their talk must focus on helping guys become more successful with women and that their advice needs to be "real world", not the nonsense you get in the mainstream media. They have also been repeatedly told that they cannot do any up-selling (eg. I have this great technique but you have to buy my product to find out what it is). Many of the speakers have told me in emails that they will be unveiling new material, including what they described as breakthroughs they've discovered, in their talks.
If you have been a long term reader of my emails you should know that I focus on getting great stuff for you to read - some of the material in the archives at www.cliffslist.com are absolutely incredible and if you haven't read them, you are missing out big time. And that is totally free. This event is the live embodiment of my emails with the same philosophy behind it. This is going to be the most exciting, entertaining and educational seduction seminar ever.
Question: Because it states in the Registration form exactly where the Convention will be, this makes some guys think "Oh, I'll just show up and walk in, nobody checks badges at these kind of things anyway."
Answer: There will be trained security people on duty throughout the entire Convention. All guests and attendees who are entitled to attend will be given wristbands that must remain on for the duration of the event. No one will be allowed into the seminar room without the wristband. There will also be seminar name badges given out, but experience has shown that the number of people who continue to wear these diminishes as the weekend goes on so the wristbands will be the requirement for entry.
Question: You have such a long list of guests and speakers, how much real value are can there be since each speaker can't be on for that long.
Answer: Firstly, if you have any doubt that a speaker can get a lot of valuable information across in 30 minutes to an hour, take a look at the DVDs from the 2005 Cliff's List Convention. Secondly, as stated above, you're going to hear concise and to the point presentations. Someone talking for 3 days straight will probably give you a lot of great information, but when they only have a limited time they have to get right to the point. And hasn't everyone heard that if you get one or two good ideas out of a seminar then the whole thing was worth it ? The likelihood of you walking away with a lot more than that is much higher here, it seems to me, than listening to one person for a whole weekend.
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This will be the event of the year - never before have so many of the World's Greatest Pick Up Artists, Ladies Men and Dating Experts been assembled at one time in one place to teach you their approaches, strategies, inner game, tactics and unique ideas. The dates are Friday, June 30, Saturday July 1, & Sunday July 2, 2006.
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Appearing LIVE in Montreal will be the following who are confirmed (listed here in alphabetical order):
Dr. Alex Benzer (www.thetaoofdating.com)
Apollo (www.showmeyourgame.com)
Badboy (www.badboylifestyle.com)
Bart Baggett (www.myhandwriting.com)
Brad P.(www.datinggurubrad.com)
Brent (www.absolutepowerdating.com)
Brian
Cameron Teone (The One) (www.buildattraction.com)
Carlos Xuma (www.datingdynamics.com)
Chet (www.chetsdatingsystem.com)
Clint Arthur (www.newsensualpower.com)
Dave M. (www.insiderinternetdating.com)
David Shade (www.masterful-lover.com)
Dr. Dennis W. Neder (www.beingaman.com)
Dr Paul (doctorpaul.net/products.htm)
DJ
Doc (www.lifeskillsnetwork.ca)
Dolly D (www.cocksanddolls.blogspot.com)
Elvis Preston King (bachelortours.blogspot.com)
GoneSavage (gonesavage.blogspot.com)
Grant Adams(www.net2bed.com)
Lance Mason (www.pickup101.com)
Magnus (www.bristollair.com)
Michael (www.thedatingwizard.com)
Michael DeLion (www.highlevelgame.com)
Nick (www.playboyskool.com)
Nige 54 (www.nige54.com)
Payton Kane (www.seduceandconquer.com)
Robert Ruffo
Steve Celeste (Toecutter) (www.smoothinteractions.com)
Steve Piccus (www.sensualawakening.com)
stRiPPed (www.nllounge.com, www.DutchSeduction.com )
Travis Decker (www.authenticsf.com)
Rion Williams (www.modelmagnet.com)
David Wygant (www.dwdating.com , www.davidwygant.com)
Will (www.youaresoinmyway.com)
Zan (www.enlightenedseduction.com)
David DeAngelo (www.doubleyourdating.com)
Michael Emery (Bishop) (www.new-alpha.com)
Style (www.neilstrauss.com/home.html)
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Take a look at the promo section (which is below if you are reading this on the www.cliffslist.com site or which you will have to go to the site to read) and read about DJ's Storytelling Program that he will be running in NYC on June 10th. This is one great program, not to be missed!
Is there too much information out there on this topic?
Have we reached info-saturation on pickup and attraction?
I was pondering this the other day as I was putting together information for a presentation, and it stuck with me. I think that the subject of attraction and pickup should be as easy as possible to learn and to use.
A few years ago, I was subscribed to a bunch of newsletters on the topic of seduction. After a while, it got to be just way too much, and it was making it harder for me to arrive at my own understanding.
You'll find that lot of the info out there is basically the same. Everyone wants to convince you that THEY have found the answer. What we've found is a bunch of answers to a lot of questions - not just one.
We don't need more complex models and clever diagrams. We need CLARITY.
You need more exercises that will actually put you on the path to getting better with women, and in all social situations. You need more examples and maps to find the path that suits you.
Have you noticed that there are very few people who can give you exercises that are PRACTICAL at helping you with Inner game?
Why is that?
Let's look at the problem. First of all:
Face it, we all want to be motivated and inspired by someone. It's hard to stay motivated every day and all the time. Humans are lazy by nature. The funny thing about laziness is this: We go through all kinds of EFFORT and WORK to be lazy.
How do you think such things as the remote control and the recliner with drink holders were invented?
Human beings put out unbelievable effort in the NOW to avoid work in the LATER.
Each one of those people that invented those time-saving, effort-saving things thought it was a wonderful idea, or they just wanted to get rich. Either way, they motivated themselves with the promise of a better future if they would just invest time in something right now.
Think about that for a minute, then rejoin me. I'll be here.
Now as for motivation, well that's like taking a shower. Every time you get it, you feel great, but it wears off. Tomorrow, you'll need motivation all over again.
NOBODY is motivated 100% of the time, no matter what you may think.
NOBODY is good with women 100% of the time.
NOBODY is happy 100% of the time.
It all comes down to your own fire and drive. Moods come and go, but action speaks volumes.
It's YOUR job to find what motivates you and leverage it to keep you going. I don't care if it's tapes or e-books or 2 triple espressos in the morning. You have to go to the source of your motivation and drink from the well, my friend. Don't think that reading an e-book once or watching a program once will get you that motivation. You have to be willing to pick it up and re-read it ten times (minimum) to really start to ingrain the beliefs in your thinking.
There are some guys out there that are so hung up on the analytical side of this stuff that they get into REAL trouble when it comes to making more pictures of how to graph attraction and buying temperature and social value and ...
Jeez Louise. It's time to put your scientific calculators away and just own up to the ACTION you must take. To improve your inner game will require work - and some of it might scare you.
Ultimately, the more information you try to find out there, the more you are really trying to avoid DOING what you know you must DO. We're seeking the Holy Grail of attraction and pickup techniques, but what we end up doing is not putting the EFFORT in. By studying instead of doing, you get to feel the pleasure of learning, and avoid the pain of practicing.
Remember: Anything worth doing will NOT be easy.
Let me say it again.
Anything worth doing in life will NOT be easy!
And it's not easy to get off your butt and go meet women. It's much easier to sit inside and surf some nasty pictures, or post to a forum. Or maybe even figure out if you plot the data points of a woman's interest against her body language you'll get the square root of ... well, nothing.
On the other hand, if you can accept the total reality that if you learn AND apply, you will succeed. It is as inevitable as the day following the night.
I believe in the Jeet Kune Do philosophy as applied to the Art of Attraction. I call this (jokingly) "Jeet Kune Dating."
Here's your acronym for the week. I offer it to clarify and help. If it doesn't do that, forget it.
R = Relaxed & Resourceful - Cool and calm keeps you at your best, your ability to connect to your innate abilities.
E = Effective & Energized - It has power - Alpha Power. Raise your energy level.
A = Authentic & Alpha - It has to be YOU, and it has to be the Masculine you.
L = Lifestyle & Lasting - Because it's NATURAL to you, you'll never lose it - No separation from your identity.
R.E.A.L. Game. This is what I use to help guys get their inner game solid.
Bruce Lee sought to reconcile all the various styles and methods he saw in the community of Martial Arts. He created the Tao of Jeet Kune Do as an answer to this, explaining that NO-style should be your style. It comes from a personal set
of beliefs.
I try my best to perform the same function for guys today. By providing them with tools that they can adapt to their personalities, they can build on the foundation of their REAL selves to achieve success more readily.
Other methods often require you to slap a whole structure on top of a foundation (i.e., personality) that it may not fit. It makes more sense to start with building locks of that person's personality type to give them their own individual approach. In the end, every man that achieves true success with women will end up with his own UNIQUE style anyway.
Wherever you go, there you are.
In the Tao of Jeet Kune Do, Bruce Lee's book on his philosophy of fighting arts, he talks about the six diseases that plague us. I think they are frighteningly relevant to the art of attraction and pickup, and so I offer them to you here. Consider also that following any one "system" is only a stepping stone to greater growth. In fact, if you follow any particular system of pickup or seduction (or whatever you choose to call it), then you are also using a 'technique,' but in a much larger sense. You're using one BIG technique.
You must simply dilute them with the power of your strengths. I think that a big part of this thinking is that if I focus too much on overcoming my weaknesses, I succumb to them.
Take that with a grain of common sense. Desire is a part of human nature. But in the end. you will only be as successful to the degree that you LET GO, not cling desperately to your 'style' or your 'techniques' or your methods. Remember, long after all the clever lines and approaches have been exposed, your authenticity and REAL character will never be out of style or a liability. You can't get CAUGHT if you're being YOU.
Get REAL.
BE real.
Real Life Examples of SEXY STEREOTYPING in Action
Did you know that girls make funny little lists of what they're looking for in a guy? Yup, it's true. I talk pretty openly about my work as a dating guru with lots of different girls, and sometimes they give me some pretty interesting inside information.
One thing I've noticed in my own life and when teaching students is that women have certain "sexy stereotypes" hard-coded into their brain. If you can tap into these stereotypes, it makes everything easier moving forward. Let me give you a few examples.
A few weeks ago, I was talking to one of my girls and she was telling me her roommate wants a guy with 3 qualities:
1. Asian guy
2. Indie rock look
3. With a car
That's all she's looking for and she can't seem to find it. Weird huh? If a guy with these 3 qualities approached her, he'd probably get laid with little or no game.
Another girl was telling a story about how she used to go and hit on any guy that had a "fuzzy in the back." Translation: fashion mullet. Then she was disappointed because every guy she hit on turned out to be gay. Another hot chick leading a sexually frustrated existence.
A third girl I spoke to told me she immediately liked me because I had the same leather jacket as Uncle Jesse from an old sitcom called "Full House."
What's going on here?
Do girls really choose guys based on weird criteria like having a fashion mullet or a John Stamos jacket?
The answer is yes they do. Sounds simple I know, but it's a deeper concept than you may realize.
The fact of the matter is that girls stereotype you in the first 2 seconds when you approach them. If she stereotypes you as a "sexy guy" the approach is going to go much better than if she stereotypes you as an average guy, or a loser.
Sometimes, girls just light up automatically because you fit their idea of what a sexy guy is.
Other times, you have to dig yourself out of a hole because she already thinks bad things about you before you even do your opener.
You can learn all the techniques and great openers in the world, and that's a necessary part of the game, but if you haven't created a look and an identity that are easy for girls to stereotype as "sexy" then you're making things more of an uphill battle than they need to be.
In our culture, the word "stereotyping" has a bad reputation. It's been vilified quite a bit in the AFC media. We see it every day- people on TV who say "Stereotyping is WRONG! You have to evaluate people based on the content of their character!"
While we all may agree with this in theory, we also know that this is the real world. Attractive women are not going to give you a chance to show "the content of your character" unless you create powerful attraction in the first few minutes. If you look like a Trekkie, most women will write you off as a loser even if you have great inner game or a great opening line.
Beautiful women who get approached a lot have no choice but to immediately stereotype you based on your appearance, voice tone, and body language. It's just not practical to get to know lots and lots of guys. So they go with their "gut instinct." A lot of that "gut instinct" has to do with how she stereotypes you before you even say anything.
If you can figure out how to make women stereotype you as a sexy guy, amazing things start to happen. You may get same day lays, kiss closes in minutes, fewer cock blockers, logistics get easier. All the other parts of your game seem to suddenly come together and you get RESULTS.
So how does one harness the power of sexy stereotyping?
Start by realizing that there are many stereotypes hard coded into the female brain that you can use to your advantage. We all know what the sexy stereotypes are, even AFCs know that. Here's a few examples:
rocker guys
rappers
bikers
gothic guys
club players
metrosexuals
male models
Latin lovers
tough guys
mafia guys
athletes
Even normal, conservative girls are attracted to guys that fit these sexy stereotypes. But very few men have the balls to transform themselves into someone who can be stereotyped as a sexy guy.
Most guys are afraid to change their look and their identity for 2 reasons:
1. It takes them out of their comfort zone.
2. They are afraid friends and family will give them a hard time.
It's true, if you change the way you present yourself, some narrow minded people will say, "What's up with you? YOU CHANGED, MAN! You look like a FREAK."
You have to expect that a few people are going to try to pressure you into being a bland, average type of person. They are afraid that if you raise your social value, you're going to stop hanging out with them. It's kinda like when you're alcoholic friends try to get you to drink your life away. These people are THREATENED by the fact that you are improving. They are afraid they will LOSE you as a friend if you get cooler.
Many people harbor a secret resentment towards anyone with high social value. It's a defense mechanism that allows them to continue their delusional ways. Is that the kind of person you want to have as a friend?
Get some balls and don't worry about that. Start experimenting with how you're presenting yourself.
Let's get a little more concrete here and talk about sexy stereotyping as it relates to your style of dress. Of course there are MANY ways to convey sexiness and tap into positive stereotyping, but how you dress is the easiest one! Why? Because you can take your time and plan it out. Then once you get it figured out you don't have to work on it again until it's time to update your style.
Body language and voice tone are much harder to improve, you have to think about them all the time for MONTHS until they becomes habit.
Let me give you a step by step approach to turning on the power of sexy stereotyping.
1. Stop worrying about what your AFC friends think. Pay less attention to them and more attention to how women are perceiving you.
2. Take an active interest in style and fashion. As kids, we were all taught that if you're into fashion, that means your a fag. Then our moms would order our clothes from the JC Penney catalog and sure enough, a dork is born. Now that you're a grown man, you can be secure enough to take an interest in fashion and not feel like it makes you less masculine. One of the best places to do research on the topic is myspace.com There are thousands of people on there who have cutting edge fashion knowledge, and they congregate in the "groups--->fashion" area of the myspace website. These are people who sit home all day getting all dressed up just to take pictures for myspace !
3. Start to identify sexy stereotypes when you see them. If girls are flocking to a guy or group of guys, have a look at how they're presenting their identity. Pay attention to how they're expressing their identity through their clothing.
I'm always looking for this, and I think I've recently discovered a new sexy stereotype. I saw these guys in a club a few weeks back with bad blazers and short hair in a pony tail. These guys were lanky and had big weird noses, but they were walking around like they owned the place. Girls were digging them. I realized what it was - the European vibe. I dubbed this look "Euro-douche" and filed it away for future use. Watch out for the Euro-douche look!
4. Choose a sexy stereotype that feels natural to you.
5. Find a person who has mastered the style and has a similar body type to yours.
6. Model your style after that person's look. You must model yourself after the best in order to get similar results. I know your social conditioning is telling you that you're a unique snowflake and you should never copy anything. I'm telling you from experience that modeling is the fastest shortcut to sexy stereotyping. There's no need to reinvent the wheel. Don't make things harder than they need to be. Do it the easy way. Modeling a person who already has it figured out will give you a huge head start. You can customize the look later when you have your developed your fashion sense a bit more.
7. Test it out. Don't spend $1000 on 7 new outfits all at once. Try on a new stereotype and see what reactions you get. I'm talking about reactions from attractive women, not reactions from your Trekkie looking friends. If you're getting good reactions from hot chicks, you know you're onto something. If not, try something else.
8. Expand and refine. Enjoy the success. Watch how much easier it is to attract women when they categorize you as a sexy guy. You'll find you have less trouble with CBs, fewer blowouts, less LMR, and less flaking.
I work with guys on their style all the time and here's a few guidelines-
Normal guys who approach these women are usually needy AFCs. After years of being approached by normal looking guys who are needy, there is a correlation formed in the woman's subconscious: Normal=Needy. I know it's not fair, but we must deal with the world the way it really is, not the way we wish it would be. If you're always worried about "blending in" and "looking normal," all of the negative stereotypes from needy AFCs will get transferred on to you! YIKES!
REMEMBER: There is massive social pressure on all of us to "blend in." If you bend to social pressure all the time, you can't expect to achieve greatness in this area or in life in general.
Are there girls out there who like "normal looking" guys? Yes, of course. But, these girls usually like sexy guys too. They tend to put normal looking guys in the "husband/provider" category, and sexy looking guys into the "seducer" category. Which category would you rather be in?
But....it's not that deep.
And....girls just don't care.
You have to make a strong statement so they GET IT right away. Girls stereotype you in the FIRST 2 SECONDS! They're not going to take the time to process how your glowing necklace reflects off your khakis. Don't confuse their sense of stereotyping. If they don't understand what you're going for right away, you're gonna be right back to digging yourself out of a hole. And who wants that?
I've traveled all over the world meeting women, and I go all out with sexy stereotyping. "Going all out" will work everywhere, but it is not completely necessary in suburban and rural areas.
I'd advise you to overshoot your goal rather than undershoot it. Think big. If your gonna do this, go all out! In the beginning you may feel weird. Feeling weird is a sign that you are FORCING your personality to grow. Get yourself a BIG BOLD style and let your reality grow into it. If you feel like you may have gone too far, but you're getting good reactions from women, that means you're doing something right. Give your personality some time to grow into your new look. Don't panic and revert back to a being a scared, pussy-ass dude who looks just like everyone else.
You'd be amazed at the results you can get when girls are perceiving you as sexy instead of average. It changes the tone of the entire interaction. It changes the balance of power. It makes THEM chase YOU.
My students are sometimes amazed when I get makeouts in 30 seconds, or end up dragging some girl off to the bathroom in 10 minutes. They ask how I do it and sexy stereotyping is a big part of why I succeed in 10 minutes while other guys take 10 hours or even 10 days to get into a chick's pants.
Some have asked me why I'd just give away my secrets like this. What if every guy taps into the power of sexy stereotyping, then I wouldn't be so successful anymore. The fact of the matter is that VERY FEW of the people reading this right now will have the balls to develop into a sexy guy. Are you one of the few guys who can make it happen, or will you file this away as just another piece of entertainment from the Internet?
Can you leave your comfort zone? Do you have the courage to stand up to social pressure? That is my challenge to you.
If you can take my ideas and turn them into real world results, then you deserve every bit of success you get! There's plenty of pussy to go around, and I applaud everyone out there who's making it happen.
I wish you the best in all your endeavors with women and in life in general, and I will see you at the Cliff's List Convention in Montreal.
Just a comment on the Underscore Mike/Rhino's post:
Here is how I would handle the situation:
's of differing levels and talents that meet in different cities to discuss their experiences and to work together to improve their success with women). More Lair Listings can be found at dutchseduction.blogspot.com/ and at www.bristollair.com, as well as at www.seductionlair.com:
As this is an archive of an older post, we have removed the listings and would refer you instead to the constantly-updated Lair Groups section of the site. What remains here are reviews of specific lairs.
between meetings. All styles, ages, and abilities are welcome. To join us contact Craig at cnoodles@bigpond.com.au
Melbourne Lair: The place, an open shopping center in the heart of the city. I sit down at the food court and wait for familiar faces to arrive. I picked the location of this months meeting of the Melbourne Lair, Its great to have it in an informal place like a food court, sets a nice relaxing mood. Once everybody arrives we push some tables together and start the meeting. We discuss peoples sticking points and offer suggestions, we tell stories of crash and burns and success stories. We just shoot the sh*t, it f*cking great to meet up with like minded people. While telling someone my smurf routine, I see two guys get up from the table and start walking away, I glance back later to see them sitting with a girl, these guys are approach machines.
The meeting goes on way too f*cking long, everybody's got a story to tell, advice to offer, we could talk to each other for days. I feel like this is Ocean's 11 and we are planning the big heist. There is the leader, he started the group. The guru, he's an encyclopedia of info. There is the joker, he can't stop negging and teasing everyone; f*cking Canadians. There's the approach machines, they can't follow the conversation because they are too busy following the nearest piece of ass. There is the SSer, the grease boy and of course Brad Pitt. We all exchange numbers before leaving and make plans for sarging during the week. If there is a Lair in your area, join it, if there isn't, start one of your own. You will not regret it.
Blake Richards has put out a new ebook that looks very interesting. Check it out here: www.social-mastery.com/Game.html
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The website is www.lifeskillsnetwork.ca. Registrations available on the website. The events are Dating Secrets for Women, a 3 Hour seminar (cost $50) and Dating Secrets for Guys; a Guide to The Art of Dating (also 3 hours and $50). There will also be a speed dating event in the evening for $50. You can contact Doc by email at seduction.school@sympatico.ca.
The fall calendar has a full weekend seminar and makeover. He also has 3 new books coming out this fall under the SETNA Dating Manual Series. Volume I (to be released this week) deals with the psychology of attraction, first impressions, and working on your inner game, Volume II (coming in September) deals with tactics and strategies to go from meeting her to dating her, and Volume III will deal with Managing Relationships.
Full-weekend Dating Makeover workshops will be offered soon (including a half day with a personal stylist, video tape analysis of body language, and live practice sessions with dating coaches beautiful women who will give the guys on the spot feedback on how they come across and what to improve). If there is a group of 10 or more guys interested in a seminar (or 5 guys for a workshop, he would consider making a special trip to their city).
This is a great opportunity to learn from a real master.
If you are opening groups (or sets: 2-sets, 3-sets, mixed sets, etc) of people with the 3 second rule by stacking indirect openers (including false opinion openers), false time constraining (discovered by Style), demonstrating a higher value to your romantic interest’s peer group with high octane DHVs while she obliquely observes (locking her into her own set with a prop), and simultaneously performing false disqualifiers (which include negs) on her with the intention of disarming her peergroup and then isolating her to rebuild her self-esteem once you have enough IOIs (indicators of interest) so you may share in a comfort and trust building effort and then build in a jealousy subplot to solidify her attraction for you, you are using The Mystery Method.
If instead you are only approaching women who are alone, you are greatly limiting your options and quite likely alienating your target's friends. Do you want a lonely woman (why is she lonely?) or a woman who already has a healthy social lfe? Truth is, healthy women have healthy relationships ... sometimes good friendships with guys. Like it or not, you will have to meet these women with men in her group.
Women of beauty are rarely found alone. Don't miss the opportunity to meet and attract them WITH social proof from her very own peergroup. Group Approach Theory (GAT - created by me) improves your options and increases the chances for attraction DRAMATICALLY over Single Approach Theory (SAT).
The guys who are GREAT in this game KNOW that they can improve their game ten-fold through seminars and personal coaching in-field workshops. Think about this: Why did so many of the greats who use my GAT (Style, Tyler D., MTL_PUA, and others) take my seminars and workshops? What started them off to greatness in this game? Can you see the co-relation may in fact be a causation?
If you have NEVER taken a seminar or workshop before, it's time to finally reconsider. They are life-transforming. I have conducted dozens of them. I am currently conducting a bootcamp and will accept only 5 people. Workshops and seminars were for many of the greats THE difference between great success and failure. If you are ready, give me a call and sign up. If you have any questions, give me a shout at 323-219-8696 (Mystery) because email sucks, or visit www.mysterymethod.com/" and email me your #. We need to talk. Man to man.
. Captivating and impressing an entire group of people goes a long way in raising your social value in the eyes of women. If there is one thing that Mystery knows more about than women, it is magic.
www.mysterymethod.com/schedule.htm
Have you ever done quite well with sexual attraction but then found yourself dating or even in a relationship with someone totally not meant for you? Have you been through a breakup and not learned the three core lessons that MUST be pulled from the wreckage? Have you ever wondered where dating ends and (gulp) real love begins? Has your dating life helped or hurt your career? Your non-dating relationships? This is the SPECIAL FORCES TRAINING CAMP for DATING and RELATIONSHIPS.
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The new technology (DatingOS) Dr. Paul is unleashing on the world completely explains what your hangups are, not only in "hooking up" or "approaching," but through the dating process and deep into relationships. This doesn't exist anywhere else, nor will it, because Dr Paul has gone through twenty years of both psychiatric clinical training, seen 15,000 patients with problems of both a "dating" nature, AND comprehensively solves deep problems that people have with sexual attraction, commitment, marriage, breakups, relationships, trauma, depression, anxiety disorders, ADD, OCD, career complications, cheating and betrayal.
If you want permanent RESULTS, you may need some real science, and the same fun time you have at other seminars of course, with more mastery of ALL psychology of dating—INNER GAME, OUTER GAME, and never before seen PROFILING of women for perfect fit to your personality.
So far, DatingOS has only been available in person, at seminars (the next one is coming up June 16 - 18 in Chicago) in the heart of the city of SINGLES, in summertime after a bitter winter has all females in a frenzy of cabin fever.
Join us by contacting Shauna at doctorpaul.net/products.htm or see the announcement on doctorpaul.net/products.htm
Seduction Science Live In-Field Workshops!
The fact is, only by MODELING the very best can you achieve the very best. In a Seduction Science workshop, you'll meet and train with master coach McMaax who will take you to unique hot spots all over a particular city for meeting the most attractive, beautiful women. Your coach will demonstrate their skills and explain, teach, and show you how to interact with women at a club and on the street.
With a coach, you'll find an immediate shift in your skills and understanding with women as you see what it takes demoed live and right in front of you. And there's no reason to take the long and hard path or reinvent the wheel. After making hundreds of approaches, we've learned what works and what doesn't. We'll show you exactly how it's done and save you months, if not years of time.
You'll never have to go back to feeling lonely or lost and live passionately once again. Reserve your place as soon as possible (placing is limited!) so that you're guaranteed a spot.
For more information on the full workshop schedule visit: www.seductionscience.com/workshops
Swinggcat has published a new ebook which you can check out at his website at www.realworldseduction.com. Those of you who remember his outstanding posts here will be anxious to get this as soon as possible. Highly recommended.
Look for more details soon, or call Dr. Yates at 903-482-1034. Price is $1,195. This seminar is ONLY open to those who own a Speed Seduction Home Study Course so you better hop on line and buy one now if you don't already have one and plan on attending.
Speed Seduction Seminars
Schedule 2006
Location Dates
London, England September 15, 16, 17
Speed Life Seminars
Schedule 2006
Location Dates
Hawaii (Location - Tentative) October 22 thru 26
Magick / Psychic Influence Seminars
Schedule 2006
Location Dates
London, England Sept 8, 9, 10
Call to register: 419 882-8543 or go to www.trucor.com
Double Your Dating LIVE! NEW Seminar! We will be reviewing all of the new DYD products here soon, including the monthly interview series in which David DeAngelo interviews "Dating Gurus".
You can order all your DYD products and register for seminars through this link: www.doubleyourdating.com/cl
If you are like most men, you have had a fantasy about a threesome with 2 hot bi-sexual women. Everything you could possibly need to know about how to have threesomes is in this special information packed course.
The FIRST And ONLY, step-by-step guide written for men, featuring Pickup Artists and couples who are actually having threesomes all the time.
I GUARANTEE you that you've NEVER been exposed to, or had real Threesomes explained to you in the way I've done it here in this course!
It doesn't matter if you are in a relationship currently or not, every situation is covered here...
- The 3 scenarios to make a threesome happen (pick the one that works BEST for you)
- How to have threesomes as part of a committed relationship (and have it bring you closer together)
- The real truth about women and bisexuality (This will SURPRISE you)
- Proven methods to deal with your woman if she is on the fence about having a threesome. (You will have her begging you to make it happen)
- 4 vital things you MUST know about bisexual women (if you want to be successful having threesomes)
- How you can tell if a women is bi-sexual or not. (It's not what you think)
- The single biggest obstacle most women have to doing a threesome with their man. (when you can deal with this, the rest is easy)
- The foolproof way to bring up the subject of threesomes when you have been with a woman for a long time. (This one is so powerful I almost didn't release it)
- The one thing you can say that shows a bisexual woman you are NOT like all the other guys (Do this and they might even fall in LOVE with you)
- Also, actual field reports of David & his girlfriend picking up bisexual women
- And much, much more...
The bottom line is that by learning how to have threesomes... YOU can live life fully and enjoy being a sensual person through expression of healthy sexuality in a mutually beneficial way.
Free samples of the course video online, check it out at www.masterful-lover.com/3somes.html
The classic 'David Shade Manual' goes online You've done all the hard work, found the HB, attracted her, managed to get her back to your place, now you need to skills in the bedroom if you want to keep the attraction going. Being able to give her the sexual experience of her life is the final tool in the seducer's toolkit, so make sure you make the most of this opportunity. David Shade, as you are no doubt aware, is well known in the seduction community as the master of bedmanship skills.
His masterpiece the 'David Shade Masterful Lover Manual' is now available for the first time online at www.alphalover.com/cmd.php?ad=145730. Highly recommended, it is possibly the only book on the subject you will ever need. Compulsory reading.
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"The Seduction End-Game"
Payton Kane's Seduce and Conquer (www.seduceandconquer.com/seducewomen) CD disks present Payton's unique, dynamic style of meeting and seducing women. His methods are very natural and are the epitome of the original advice you get - tease and take away, play hard to get, etc. Definitely worth checking out, but not for everyone.
Due to popular demand , Learn from the resident Sexpert How to be Outrageously Successful With the Opposite Sex and How to naturally let the game come to you. An intensive 1 on 1 personalized bootcamp taught to you by the East Coast's #1 Personal Dating Coach and Mentor. For more info go to www.youaresoinmyway.com
understand it, really KNOW it and really USE and APPLY it even better than before?
If so, check out www.daveriker.com/ssmanual/
Riker's Seduction Log - Live Seminar
If you always wanted to hear more field reports, with full details, and even some recordings, then this seminar is for you. Dave Riker (Ross's co-trainer for those of you who don't know him) spends about 3 hours each evening going through his personal Logs and notes and provides full reports on Sarges, many from start to close (finish). And that's a full "close" by the way, not just an email address or phone number!
The seminar is held in conjunction with Ross Jeffries Speed Seduction Seminars. Ross's seminar is during the day (and Riker presents at that too) and then Riker does his seminar in the evening. And even if you do not attend Ross's seminar you can still attend Riker's.
For full details see the web page at: http://www.daveriker.com/logseminar/track/cl.htm (Inactive Site)
Be sure to check out his "Reviews" page on his site. Many guys that have been in the game for a while, and attended a LOT of seminars, were just blown away by Riker's Log seminar.
from Zagreb who has spent almost 4 years in the game. He is also a respected poster in Mystery's lounge.
To see some of his stuff, search for posts by "croBadboy" on mASF or read one of the recent issues of Cliff's list.
Workshops are 1 on 1 for 3 days.
Each day consists of a 4-hour seminar and 5 hours of active in-field work. Each night you will make 20-30 approaches with your teacher to get field experience. 1 on 1 training makes it possible to answer any questions you might have and cover the most important aspects of the game in detail. Teachings are tailored to your level in the game.
The basic structure of the workshop is:
Day 1:
Social intelligence/emotional intelligence
How to dress, peacocking vs. dressing style
Alpha-male body language secrets
Attitude (inner-game) and getting a good seductive voice
Difference between emotional and party type girls
Social dynamics in clubs (2sets/3sets/lonewolves), know your city
Openers (sets with males vs. only-girl sets)
Day 2:
Difference between PUing alone and with a wing
Different tools for getting attraction
Power of contrast (bad boy & nice guy in one)
Stealing their frames
Passing sh*t tests
Push-pull
Isolation tactics(2steps)
Day 3:
AMOG tactics (the AMOG handshake, group set AMOG destroyers)
Boyfriend destroyers
Passing LMR
Secrets of good s*ex
How to manage a good relationship
More body language secrets
How to turn Coffee dates into f*ck-fest in just 1 hour
How to turn a 0$ date into a time she will never forget
Difference between PUing in different places (small towns, big cities, colleges and the difference between certain clubs and the girls who go there)
Badboy says he can write a pages of what he does with guys because it's not just PU. He opens their EYES to LIFE, to understand how to live successfully.
For more info, email Badboy at badboy@playboylifestyle.net. See Badboy's new website: www.badboylifestyle.com
You can book your workshop on: www.badboylifestyle.com/?badboy=workshops
The beauty of The Tao of Dating Transformation Weekend seminar, coming up June 2-4 in sunny Los Angeles, is that Dr. Alex will be leading the exercises, making sure you do them (and throwing some trancework in there to supercharge it). Most people go through an entire lifetime not having done an exercise like this. You don't have to be one of them. Here you can get more info about all that will go on at the weekend:
www.thetaoofdating.com/liveseminar.com
The Tao of Dating Transformation Weekend is about taking that cosmic mallet to your own head and figuring this stuff out for yourself. Not because *Dr. Alex* is saying it's right, but because you're feeling it in your bones and it feels right *for you*. Your brain will figure out which it likes better -- the carrying around of past injury like a dead weight, or the lightness and ease of letting go. And the millisecond it figures out which one is more fun, it will never go back.
Like when you find a shortcut and never go the long way again.
Come join us in LA if you can. Seats are going fast, and Dr. Alex would like to see you there. It's going to be lots of fun.
The power is within you, Dr Alex.
You can write Dr. Alex at dralex@thetaoofdating.com
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Thundercat's New "Seduction Lair"
Get the latest News, Rumors, Tips, Tricks, & Analysis on the Pick-Up and Seduction community! The site is updated daily with lots of free and exclusive content.
Also a good way to keep up with things without having to navigate mASF. Drop By TSL today! www.seductionlair.com/
The Art of Approaching: Learn to meet ANY woman, ANY time, ANY where. The most difficult hurdle for most men to overcome is that of the initial Approach. This comprehensive eBook gives you over 35 unique Openers, as well as a step-by-step roadmap to help overcome your fear of approaching forever!
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Lance Mason ("Sensei") & Wilder Pick-Up 101 (
http://pickup101.com/a/cl ):More than just workshops, PickUp 101 provides focused programs that begin weeks before you arrive with our home study materials, our 3-day skills intensive & field work training, and lasts long after you leave with follow up coaching calls and access to the PickUp 101 private forums.
PickUp 101 provides you 'warp-speed' training in a sequenced progression to take you from complete newbie to getting laid like a rock star with our proven step-by-step programs.
In our current programs you will learn the latest in:
- Attraction Skills
- Night Club Game
- Day Time Game
- Direct AND Indirect Methods of Approach
- Deep Rapport Skills
- Effective Day-2 Seduction Tactics
- Dressing For Your Pickup Artist Identity
- Multiple Relationship Management
- Advanced Pickup Tactics
- And much more...
Our programs are structured to build on each other and NEVER repeat material.
Our instructors stay on the cutting edge of what works, and we won't lock you into any one way of doing pickup. We find what works BEST FOR YOU, and provide you with all the training and coaching you need to succeed.
We also provide monthly free seminars in San Francisco, and free distance learning teleseminars.
Call us toll free for more information.
PickUp 101
1459 Powell Street
San Francisco, CA
1-877-PICKUP-9 (toll free)
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DJ:
Greetings everyone,
I wanted to take this opportunity to announce that I will be leading my storytelling program in June. After 7 months of not teaching and too many requests for a storytelling program, I've decided to run it again as a one shot deal. It will be Saturday June 10th and details are attached to this email.
This is the supercharged version of the infamous DJ Storytelling program of Cliff's List Convention fame and the one that I used to teach around the country...all newly redesigned to include my insights of the last 8 months.
I'm not very sophisticated with this stuff so while a super uber successful PUA businessmen who you all know would tell me to build a website and put the details there...and just include a link in my postings, I'm probably too lazy to actually do that.
So here's part of what we'll cover:
• Learn to tweak "How you are" to reflect who you are and still be attractive to the women you really want.
• Storytelling! Through a series of intensive partner and group exercises, you will find your best experiences and learn to convey them. We’ll explore hook words, tonality, endings, threading, and how to be captivating. I will show you how and you will create a highly polished story.
• Understanding how experiences you’ve already had can be a vehicle to convey who you are as well as your most attractive characteristics. You already have an interesting life, learn to convey it.
PLUS A SPECIAL SECTION ON UNDERSTANDING THE FEMALE MIND AND HOW TO COMMUNICATE WITH IT IN WAYS THAT IT WILL UNDERSTAND. This seminar is inner game intensive, so be ready.
I have a much more detailed flier that I'm happy to email to you if you'd like. Contact me at DJ_SEMINAR@YAHOO.COM
SATURDAY JUNE 10. 2-11PM. NYC
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New street seduction CD course from Croatia
mr.ice - Croatian seduction master finally released his seduction audio
CD "Streetmode".
Backed by 5 years of extensive research it contains step-by-step directions on how to seduce girls in normal - everyday environment.
Each part uses structured approach i.e. you are given an introduction that describes specifics of each seduction environment together with steps that are neccesary for you to feel comfortable before you start with the seduction.
You are then guided through the seduction process - from intial approach to conversation and later to kissing and having sex with a girl.
for more information: streetmode.atspace.com
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Trevor Emdon got the T shirt on being dumped! But he also happens to be an NLP practitioner and a personal development coach and writer, so he was darned if he was going to be defeated by a little thing like being twice divorced and having more "ex’s" in his little black book than any self respecting man should have!
He set about figuring out a way of turning life around. And he began where it hurt the most – with the uncomfortable probability that since HE was the common denominator in all his relationships, maybe it was him that needed to change! Uncomfortable … only to a point, because then he realised something VERY exciting…
If HE was the one that needed to change, then HE was in control of his own romantic destiny! And so are YOU!
That single thought sparked a revolution in his thinking, and led him to devise the powerful program in the pages of the ebook you could be putting to use in your life just minutes from now!
"How To Conquer Your Fear of Rejection & Start Dating Again!" packs a powerful punch. And at $9.99 it’s the best value antidote to a broken heart or plain old fear of rejection.
It will restore your faith in Love, Life, Sex and Romance! www.wizardofwisdom.com/conquerrejection.htm
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Archangel:
I've got something I think you & your readers would be interested in.
It's called NLP PLUS and you can see it here:
The entire system is based upon Breath, Body, Mind, Motion. It's a system of Confidence and Persuasion, and is meant to be easy to use with little memorization.
There's a demo lesson here: nlp-plus.com/Demo/ConfidenceDemo.asp
The Rapport structure is here:
The rapport structure is very simple, and extremely effective. All you have to do is the BBMM structure to gain rapport with someone.
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Juggler is back!
Charisma Sciences, led by longtime seduction authority Juggler, focuses on developing a man's natural game. Our clients usually
- aren't connecting with women despite all efforts,
- are sick of using routines and material that isn't their own,
- want to understand vibing skills that will work in *any* situation.
We are now limiting the size of our events to four students with two to three instructors (including Juggler, of course), because we're not just giving a guy some lines and throwing him out there. We get to know our clients and teach them social vibing techniques, based on their own personality traits, that apply to women, men and groups.
There's just no other way to prepare a guy for the breadth of interactions he's going to face in his life, seductive or otherwise.
It's the difference between flash game and solid game. We don't teach men how to impress their friends and thirty other people with some jokes or tricks - we teach them how to consistently get numbers that will not flake, and closes that aren't forced - by building a solid foundation for every interaction.
Our Charm School bootcamp runs Friday to Sunday in Ann Arbor, MI and
other cities worldwide. To learn more about what we teach, you should check out our website, where we have free weblogs, podcasts, compiled articles, and the three-year-in-the-making Juggler eBook. See charismaarts.com/. Looks very interesting!
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Joe Flow:
I'm starting a new coaching program designed to speed the process of overcoming social fears and self imposed limitations. So many guys out there, and in the community in particular have a lot of bad habits and childhood mannerisms that they carry on to their adult life. These come from unconscious beliefs and memories that run their lives. I believe working to improve these issues should be tackled from both sides. On the one hand, I'm going to talk to guys about their belief system and self images. On the other, I'll comment on different things that they do, like body language, voice inflections, and facial expressions that betray these beliefs. I believe that is the best way to bring these hidden beliefs up to the surface which is the most important and most difficult step on the way to dealing with them.
My program is going to be very cheap for the time being, at least until I get some good testimonials to back me up. Since this is coaching and not a "weekend of partying", you have to live in or close to Manhattan. I'm going to have one hour long meetings in which we talk, walk around, do basic communication exercises, and later on, approach and talk to women ("day game"). After every meeting, you will get a few simple, or not so simple body language and mental exercises and "missions" that you will have to carry out before the next time we meet, in addition to new things to keep in mind about how you come across and communicate and about what goes on in your head.
If you are interested, email me at free2bu@fastmail.fm, and I will send you a short questionnaire to find out whether or not I think I can help you. If yes, the first meeting will be FREE, and no commitment on your part will be required. After that, for the time being, every meeting will cost $50. I make no flashy promises. I'm aiming for a PROCESS, not a magic bullet.
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Giuseppe Notte:
www.seduction-and-dating.com/seduction/ - Giuseppe Notte's ALL ABOUT WOMEN: The Encyclopedia Of Seduction EOS is a new product covering the topic of seduction from A to Z. This 100 pages e-book is ideal both for newbies and more experienced guys willing to improve weaker points of their game. The book is split into 6 bigger parts:
1. Being a woman Learn how women think and understand the "logic" behind their actions.
2. How to be the Man Part two is about the attitude. You can attract women just with your presence, by becoming a "real Man". Avoid the most common mistakes men make and learn valuable tips on body language, dressing and improving the overall quality of your life.
3. The first step: meeting girls Overcome your fear of approaching women and open girls anytime, anywhere without excuses. With the powerful techniques in the book, you won't have to memorize any "canned" routines or NLP patterns.
4. Second step: from the first date to having sex Get from the first date to the girl's bed easily. Don't be stressed anymore on when and how to kiss your girl or where to take her. You will learn step-by-step instructions for each phase.
5. Third step: keeping a relationship The secrets of keeping a long, rewarding relationship, or multiple relationships at the same time. You choose.
6. Sex Overcome your problems, improve your sexual life, become multi-orgasmic and turn into an irresistible lover.
For more information, visit www.seduction-and-dating.com/seduction/.
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CEIC: Sickboy and Playboy (Mike and Stephen from the DYD interview series) have launched "Cutting-Edge Image Consulting" (
- A groundbreaking 3 point structure that serves as a roadmap to any successful interaction.
- The two most powerful qualities women are drawn to, and how you can learn to use them with shocking effect
- We go over the subtleties of female psychology and why it is absolutely necessary to do THREE things when meeting a new woman…do you know what they are?
- We disclose the secret of "hooking" - what it means and how to do it with shocking efficiency.
- We uncover a key language skill that can build fascination in any woman, ANYTIME. This skill is critical when building connections, which lead into relationships.
- Devastatingly effective conversational openers and lines.
- How to bait ANY woman into a conversation so that within minutes she is dying to know YOU.
- We list the EXACT places to go where you can meet women with the greatest probability of success. Stop wasting your time in the wrong venues for YOU.
- We teach you how to be the center of attention and the life of the party within SECONDS of meeting complete strangers.
- Learn which conversational topics are fascinating to women. Never be boring again.
- We provide a clear definition of relationships, and why some work and some don't. We give you clear-cut ways to improve all of your relationships TODAY.
- There are three different ways to engage women in conversation when you are socializing. These three are based on the three different environments that exist socially. Do you know what they are? We teach you on Day II of the program.
- We teach you the FASTEST way to begin conversations in ANY environment.
- Learn how to counter the most common rejection phrases from women - NEVER be shot down again.
- We outline the aspects of a successful mindset, and we then lead you through a clear and concise exercise to attain that attitude for yourself.
- MASTER the art of flirting.
- We instantly improve your body language and tonality with simple, clear advice never heard anywhere before.
- We give you a SIMPLE way to ALWAYS be relaxed and comfortable before approaching and engaging women in conversation.
- We have an entire CD which guides you through a step-by-step process for creating a timeline that helps you get back on track in EVERY area of your life. We have a solid system for bringing you in touch with what success means to you, and then developing a timeline - a plan - for success. Our aim is to help your dreams become a reality.
Check out their website today at:
Here are some recent seminar testimonials for CEIC.
In short, our work focuses on a man’s "image", meaning his
presentation not only in style and fashion, but also in word and
energy (vibe). The latter are far more challenging and compelling
to me. The greatest hurdles to success is our INTERNAL
framework of images of ourselves and others. I prescribe no
shortcuts to success, but I do outline a fairly rigorous and demanding
practice for guys to rewire these beliefs in order to be empowering
and healthy. We DO cover the essentials on approaching, flirting,
teasing, storytelling, frame control etc – we have streamlined this
discussion to only include the imperatives. Our belief is that without
a very solid understanding of female/male energy dynamic and
psychology – stemming from years of evolutionary research and study –
a guy stands very little chance of REAL understanding which can lead
to healthy, sustainable relationships.
In other words, time to step into the REAL fire…
I’ll let the students take it from here. Here are views from two guys who
attended the December program:
"Imagine this: you're a regular guy... maybe late 20s, 30s, or even
40s. You're smart enough but you're not Einstein. Neither are you
Tom Cruise, but you also see guys who are no smarter, richer, or
better looking having an easier time with women. Maybe you're someone
who really wants a monogamous relationship with a woman, but you
don't want to just "settle." You want someone terrific, a woman who
"gets you," who you think is really sexy and, just as important,
finds you really sexy. You want to be able to spark the desire that
serves you, and inspires other people. Or maybe you're someone who
thinks you'd like multiple relationships, but while you can imagine
it, making it happen is as elusive as water in the desert. Well, it
strikes me that Stephen and Michael are teaching skills that are
relevant, memorable, and easy to use, rather than asking you to
memorize series of monologues or even gestures,
Without giving away their secrets, let's just say that you walk in on
Saturday. You're curious, a bit nervous, and also just wondering what
you'll gain. You walk out on Sunday with one over-riding sense.
Excitement. Because you have a tool set that is easy to put into
action. That skill set is not based on changing yourself. It's based
on tapping into who you are as a man. It leverages your own
experiences, stories, and inclinations. You work on creating a vision
of the type of women you genuinely desire, and also the type of man
you want to be in the world. In a sense, these guys collaborate with
you to build your own dream house, helping map out the blueprint to
actually construct it. Only what you're building is not a house. It's
the best aspect of who you are. And it's no dream. It's for real.
Stephen and Michael work through that design and construction process
with you, as coaches as well as teachers.
The process teaches "smarts," but it's smarts about who you are, can
be, and want to purse. They also lead you through a series of
exercizes to put all that into action. Yes, it's challenging. But
it's also a lot of fun. I saw the results immediately that first
night hanging with another member of the class. I have read a bunch
of material from other experts, and can say honestly that these guys
are up to those standards. They're original, doing more than
rehashing what exists, and giving their own perspective in ways that
are relevant and actionable. They're also fun to work with and, as I
mentioned to them from a marketing standpoint, they could be charging
a bunch more for their workshops. It's a great way to propel a guy
forward.
JF
NYC"
Or:
"I'd like to praise Stephen of Cutting Edge Image Consultants for
a great two day seduction workshop last weekend (Dec 10th & 11th)
It was a thoughtful, concise and comprehensive program for meeting
women, having successful first and second dates, and keeping them
interested for the long term.
His approach is very organic. He's developed a way for men to be
genuinely charming all while being their real selves. One of his many
techniques is called Baiting. It's a highly effective tool when approaching
women cold and gets many more positive responses. Baiting allows
you have plenty of interesting things to say to a woman you've never
met before without having to resort to corny pickup lines and rote
exercises. The last half of Sunday was a great education in clothing
and fashion tips and how it can powerfully aid the seduction process.
Going one step further his teachings have a healthy component to it.
They are evocative of David Deida, Michael Meade and Robert Bly
(who are the leading authors about men's issues) and encourage a
man to find and nurture his true masculinity. In fact he believes that
success with women is hinged on a man moving toward his
best self in all areas of his life such as health, finances, spirituality and
relationships. Try just one of his programs and I guarantee he'll be
your favorite seduction coach.
Although the seminar stands on it's own, it was a great complement
to the one-on-one training I'd received two months ago ("Afternoons with Stephen".)
I got a chance to digest more deeply his overall philosophy and techniques."
JC
NYC
We have a page solely devoted to the program where you can read more about it, and sign-up.
Here is the link:
www.datingsecretsformen.com/seminar.html
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www.songsofseduction.com/"> www.songsofseduction.com
A full rock music album created for the purpose of seduction is finally available! These 10 songs have been arranged to create rapport, capture and lead her imagination, start the attraction process, and ultimately GET HER IN THE SACK! State of the art NLP combined with hypnotic but rockin' music leads her through the seduction process for you. Best of all, it looks like a regular pop-rock album and sounds like the best alt rock on the air! The lyrics have been painstakingly written by NLP programmers, and the music was recorded by world-class recording artists, using the latest in persuasion techniques together with rhythmic emotional influence technology.
Get yours today, and get laid tonight!
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www.datinghelpformen.com/"> www.datinghelpformen.com is a website designed by a guy who at one time had limited success with women. He posts what he learned there, from his mistakes and errors to his successes. They will be dealt with step by step so that you can repeat his achievement without replicating the miscalculations. This site is for beginners but if any of you pros would like to join the site and help out that would be great (and of course in return those of you with products will get great link placement)
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Check out the 'supermarket of seduction' at www.seductionpro.com. Lots of interesting products to look into.
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Impact Interaction (www.impactinteraction.com) @ London
Angel Caido, RyobI and Lockstock have been running Workshops and Seminars in London since the beginning of the year. The workshops are small in size (trainer : student ratio of 2:1 as max), so students get personal attention on sticking points.
The workshops include:
- Basejump: For approach newbies who need to get internal game and basic attraction skills in gear
- Field Interaction: To perfect your bar/ club and street performance
- Solid Game: Everything good except lots of flakes? Few end results? End to end game sticking points covered…
For more information go to www.impactinteraction.com or contact them @ contact@impactinteraction.com.
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FIDENTIA UPDATE:
Fidentia 's partners are taking different paths..
To reach Ranko Magami and Robert T
us.f608.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=CameronTeone@yahoo.com">orrey please go to
www.attractanddate.com/"> www.attractanddate.comTo reach Cameron Teone and Seth Parker please go to
www.buildattraction.com/"> www.buildattraction.com or you can email Cameron at us.f608.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=CameronTeone@yahoo.com"> CameronTeone@yahoo.comRanko:
Destroy Fears from Approach to Relationships, FREE DOWNLOAD on www.AttractAndDate.com
In my business I met many guys that managed to change themselves from losers to winners with women. Or many that were already successful but couldn't approach in a club. Or many that couldn't talk to any women but are now happy dating.
Since each one of them has defeated excuses and has an interesting story with missions or exercises that helped him, I got an idea to interview them so they can spread their knowledge. They are all NORMAL people, that work 9 to 5 jobs and have normal lives and look and dress normally.
That is why I think the Attract and Date: Destroy Fears from Approach to Relationship series is a very interesting one, unlike any other product, and one that can help many men.
The first interview is offered as a FREE download.
In this interview I talk with Peter. Peter was on a Prague workshop which was covered by a big European newspaper in a long article. Everything he says is FOR REAL, and that's what we need: REAL MEN having REAL SUCCESS. Peter is no ordinary guy, in one year he managed to have women from 15 different countries in his bed but he could get only the women that approached him; he never approached women that he didn't know.
So remember he is 37 years old and he had never approached a girl that he likes, and only spoke to the ones that stared at him or if he was introduced.
He talks about things that helped him destroy his fears. This is a combination of attract and date teachings and his own discoveries and experiences.
In the interview, we try to focus on his own discoveries cause people will never have heard of them before.
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Flirting Weekend London -
Learn how to develop immense pulling power in every aspect of your life!
"Flirting isn't just about impressing the opposite sex and picking up a partner, it's about getting on with people", says Peta Heskell, the founder of Britain's only Flirting Academy. "Great flirts do it with everyone -flirt that is!" Flirting is a way of interacting with people that makes it fun and easy to connect with them and makes them want to be with you. Become super sexy, develop your conversation power, boost your confidence, courage and self esteem and find out how to approach strangers and feel good. You may be looking for love, want to make more friends or improve the way you interact with people in general.
Flirt with life. Flirt for love. Flirt for fun. Flirt for success.
Please call 02476 541 164 and speak to Gerry and Jenn who will be happy to answer any questions and take your bookings ;-))
For more information about the Flirting Weekend, contact LifeTalks - tel. 0117 973 1010, email info@lifetalks.co.uk or visit
www.lifetalks.co.uk/"> www.lifetalks.co.ukFor more information about the Flirting Weekend in London and other workshops with Peta, contact The Attraction Academy tel. 0700 4 354 784 or
visit www.attractionacademy.com/
Peta Heskell - Director of Possibility
Flirting and Attraction Academy
Develop immense Pulling Power in all areas of your life
CONTACTS
Tel: 0700 4 354 784
Talk Talk: 0208 979 2994
Tel Intl: + 447770 741 323
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Have you ever asked yourself...
* What does it take to make a woman feel totally comfortable making out with me - even if she barely knows me?
* How do I get women to WANT to sleep with me? After all, what good are all those "bedroom techniques" I learned if I don't even know how to get her back to my bedroom in the first place?
* Why do women melt around some guys, but they are totally unresponsive to me? What do they have that I don't?
Wouldn't it be nice if you knew a guaranteed way to "get physical" with any woman you go out with? Have you ever been on a date with a woman, and wondered *how* you can start "making out" with her? (by making out, I mean kissing, hugging, holding hands, etc.)
Jason King has just released a not new report that will teach you everything you need to know about getting *close* to a woman on a date.
Jason is an absolute master at making out with a woman on the first date. Whenever he goes out with a woman, he seems to put them under some kind of "love spell", and they want to make out with him more and more as the date progresses. By the end of the date, the women usually invent all kinds of excuses to invite him back to their place.
There is NO other person out there who is teaching these skills. If you've ever wanted to learn how to make out with a woman on the FIRST date... not weeks or months later... you MUST check out his site.
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Step by Step Threesomes
Hey, check out Suzy Bauer's site and her e-book (we need a review, so someone get this and let us know what you think) about creating threesomes. Suzy is an attractive married bi-sexual woman who says that her e-book will show you what to do to create threesomes, how to overcome resistance and how no one can tell you how to do this better than a woman. www.stepbystepthreesome.com/
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"Seduction Tips-Seduce the woman for you today"
www.pmmarketing.org/seductiontips.htm
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Maximillian Hell:
I have a PU journal up on livejournal. Right now it's mostly just a record of my sarges--but comments are welcome.
www.livejournal.com/users/maximillianhell
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Visit these sites (and give me your comments on their products):
http://www.sexualrapportmodeling.com/jump.php?a=2350 (Inactive Site)
www.datinghelpformen.com/"> www.datinghelpformen.com
Gunwitch has also entered the commercial game. Go to: www.dynamicsexlife.com/
Someone needs to check this site and its products out also: http://mensniche.com/hit.php?w=101973&s=4&p=2
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Return of The Bishop
After a 4 year absence, Bishop is back with his latest seduction product called, "The Fire of Seduction."
Now, no matter who you are, there is way to be NATURALLY seductive around women! There is a way to move past whatever has ever stood in your way! There is a way to at last get the kind of seduction success that has so far eluded you. That way, is "The Fire of Seduction."
In fact, Bishop is SO confident about his latest creation, he's giving a FULL YEAR MONEY BACK GUARANTEE!! You have everything to gain!
Here's just a sample of what awaits you:
* The Four Horsemen of Seduction -
Finally! The simple 4-step process that makes ALL seduction work!
* 'Phanting -
This strangely named chapter AT LAST reveals how to tell what kind of woman you're approaching, BEFORE YOU EVEN SAY A WORD TO HER!
* Advertising to Women -
Learn what advertisers have spent BILLIONS on to influence women, and how YOU can use it in seduction!
* Detached Presence -
Simply put, it's how to be miles away and STILL have her suddenly think about you, as if you're in the room with her!
* Tests, Games, and Positioning for Power -
The "behind her walls" secrets on the things she is trying to test you on, and you likely never even knew it! (Plus, how to use it right back on her!)
* The Positive Side of "Let's Just Be Friends" -
How being "just friends" can actually ACCELERATE your seduction success!
* Thinking Differently -
This chapter takes some commonly held beliefs about what it takes to seduce women, and shatters it!
There is so much more that awaits you, in this 330 page e-book, with nearly 7 HOURS OF AUDIO FILES!
And remember, there is a FULL YEAR MONEY BACK GUARANTEE, so you have every reason to BUY RIGHT NOW!
Bishop's new site can be visited by going here: payloadz.com/go/jump?id=100276&a=cliff@costech.com
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Daniel:
If you are looking for a wing and you are a guy from Romania, you can check on our forums at www.seductierapida.ro/forum and you might find one.
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Carlos Xuma:
Time is running short for all of us, no matter how young or old you are. Don't waste precious years learning by trial and error (and most likely not at all). Get the information on how to improve your dating life TODAY. Make the changes you need to make to get the love, s*ex, and relationships that you want and DESERVE to have.
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A few sites to check out:
Mike PilinskI is the author of "Without Embarrassment: The Social Coward's Totally Fearless Seduction System"... a unique method of meeting girls that will have you making up for wasted time spent living in shy-guy hell from the very first moment you test it out. Check it Out Here => www.highstatusmale.com/.
David Wygant (www.whatsyourexcuse.com & www.mydatingagent.com).
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Erick Kand has a new website that showcases Hypnosis Stage Shows for fun and entertainment: www.HypnosisEvents.com
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The Foundations of Seduction
Hi, you know something? When it comes to seductionhey, when it comes to ANYTHING--how you feel has a huge impact on the results you get. But the way you feel doesn’t have to be determined by your surroundings, your expectations, others’ behavior, or the tides and stars. You can guide your own feelings. By doing so, you can adjust and enhance your results. You can replace frustration with the satisfaction of tangy, blood-red, salty-sweet resolve. When you can change the way you feel, you can change what you experience… and what you encounter… and then the world stands revealed as something you yourself partially create. Sometimes, to begin claiming the victories you deserve, all you need is a simple little tool: a way of channeling your own emotions. A way of tapping your inner fire. A way of taking that inner fire, and letting it melt your external obstacles. A way of changing all that you feel, about all that you experience. Of course, you may not need or want such a tool. For some, the ability to guide and drive one’s own emotional experience is pretty basic stuff. Some people shrug off rejection, feel wonderful almost all the time, and easily attain their goals. If that’s true for you, and you don’t think you can add to your abilitywell, you may be right. In that case, my new CD may not be for you. On the other hand, should you want a tool meant to ease the transition to seductive success… to productive success… to any kind of success, maybe this new CD can be of use to you. It’s called "Foundations of Seduction". You can get it for $29.97 plus $5 Priority Mail s/h, by going here: www.sexualkey.com/ Just enter "$34.97" into the FlexPay box and then email me at info@sexualkey.com with your shipping address and a note that you’ve ordered "Foundations of Seduction". If you’re outside the U.S., please add an additional $5 for shipping. Have fun! JD www.sexualkey.com/
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"FREEDOM WITH WOMEN" SEMINAR DATES
Ron Louis and David Copeland have been doing several boot camp style one-on-one courses.
Contact Ron Louis: ronl@howtosucceedwithwomen.com or contact davidc@howtosucceedwithwomen.com
To find out more about the "Freedom with Women" seminar, go to www.howtosucceedwithwomen.com/workshops/fww5.html
HOW TO SUCCEED WITH WOMEN Ron Louis and David Copeland have their Mastery Program Tape series available. It has some very good stuff on it and that, in combination with other pieces that you can pick up here and from the other products mentioned can be a help. For those who are just starting out learning how to deal with women, this is an excellent basic daily course to take you through the process of dealing with women. For those who are more advanced, you should pick up a few good ideas from this set of tapes. howtosucceedwithwomen.com/
1. You can receive a series of audio programs from the "Freedom With Women" seminar. This audio is not available anywhere else!
2. You'll get valuable email summations of these audio programs to "lock in" the learning and help you take action.
3. You'l get other special email lessons from the "Freedom with Women" seminar, all about finally having real freedom with the women you desire.
To get the free course, go to www.howtosucceedwithwomen.com/workshops/free-audio.html
Ron & David have announced a new seminar:
The dates are Saturday June 17th and Sunday June 18th from 12:00 pm to 8 pm. The location will be in NYC, in the Times Square area.
For more info, get in touch with them through their site,
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Advanced Macking:
In case you want a step by step guide on how to get into one-night stands, check out Anthony Berger's Advanced Macking manual. What makes it unique is that it is engineered towards making it happen the same night you meet them. To learn how to persuade women back to your pad, check out his site: www.advancedmacking.com/Discount.htm
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Michael:
If you want to improve both your pick up game and your understanding of women on a deeper level, you've got to come out to my Dating Wizard Live Seminars in Toronto. It is two FULL days of non-stop IMMERSION - including a live pick-up