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[summary]A Cliff's List reader recounts his adventures with Elvis in the Dominican Republic.[/summary]
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Cliff's Comment: Here is a pretty amazing story about a trip by one of my readers to meet Elvis in the Dominican Republic. You can meet Elvis in person at the Cliff's List Convention in two weeks.
Elliot:
Let me start with her eyes.
Wide, hungry and deep.
Until her smile transformed her into a little girl who looks like she is finally getting the lollipop she was promised.
Her skin...flawless and black...no lines on her face, silky and warm all over.
In my hotel room in Santiago.
For twenty minutes--spooning from the back--my left hand cupped on her left breast, my right finding the perfect arc of her left buttock--we stay.
Her breath comes slow and deep and her eyes are closed.
Natasha is the tenth girl I've slept with in three days and the most dangerous.
I'm falling in love...
Let me start from the beginning.
My friend Elvis is the King of pick up artists, and he's the first to say it himself. He has slept with 20,000 women and I believe him now.
However when I first arrived in Santiago at on Thursday night in early June, I had my doubts--like any rational person. How could he be that good and even if he was, how could it help me?
I'm a handsome devil of 5'5", have passed the half century mark and shave my head. I'm in good physical condition, but look more like Ben Kingsley than Brad Pitt. I've read tons of books and taken all the seminars and still was having trouble being comfortable with women. I tried resisting the idea that coming down was all an expensive mistake, an encounter with an ex car salesman hoaxster.
When Cliff wrote his clear-eyed report, I began to believe that I should try Elvis out.
Late that night, eating my "Sandwich Toledo" in the hotel restaurant, I saw the waitress with a bit of a shock. She looked just like Cathy, the Dominican designer in New York I had had a crush on for years. There seems to be a typical Dominican skin tone and facial feature (not to mention the traditional yummy backside). It almost seemed that I now had another chance to win her. I summoned up some courage and told her my story. She smiled but nothing more came of it, which was pretty typical.
Little did I know that thanks to Elvis and Alberto, I would be holding her hand the next evening and kissing her gently in the back of their jeep. Her smile would be different then--a deep yearning in her eyes--and she would be mine for the asking.
At 10:30 a.m. sharp, Elvis and Alberto meet me in the hotel lobby.
Elvis is floppy bellied, baggy eyed, mop topped and 57. Yet, his excitement of living is about what you could imagine a 5 year old opening his presents Christmas morning. Just think of how you'd feel when you realize you've won the lottery and that was Elvis most of the time. The presents he was unwrapping every day were 18 year old hot babes.
He talked American without an accent which was reassuring and he talked a mile a minute, just as he was taught being a successful door to door salesman. When he learned I was Jewish, he became uncharacteristically silent.
He told me about Mike, the wealthy Jewish playboy from his home city who had mentored him and made him the successful ladies man he was today. When he was nineteen, Mike persuaded him to sell women's clothing door to door. He began seducing his customers. Later he was also introduced to selling car franchises where he made his fortune which he later lost gambling on Dominican currency. What touched me was when he said that Mike had also gone from being rich to being poor when his brothers embezzled his inheritance and put him in an old age home. Elvis had tried to get him out and have him live with him--brighten up his last days with some free loving--but his family did not permit it.
By his count he's slept with 20,000 women and I believe him. I've seen him sleep with 4 in three days and he says he's slowing down.
Yet he's very tactful. I see him scanning my jeans.
"How am I dressed" I ask.
"Hey when Elvis wears jeans he still gets tons of women. It doesn't matter. But maybe you'd feel differently in slacks?"
I take his subtle advice and change into dark suit pants. I'm wearing a new lavender shirt, sliver wristband with green scarab stones on one hand and an intricately interwoven leather bracelet on the other. My trademark Panama hat gives me the feeling that I'm El Jefe.
Alberto was straightfaced and observant. He was about 6 foot and handsome and black. He had no desire to be liked and said whatever he felt. He always had good advice. He was the one who negotiated the women into making love.
Many times, multiple women at the same time.
We get into the jeep to cruise downtown Santiago and immediately I hear the sucking sound of my money being mooched for a million things. First we gas up, $60.00. Then phone cards, $36.00. Water and some food supplies. Elvis had me pay 60 cents for his shoe shine!
As Cliff reported, what we see downtown is a third world country. Guys selling whole roasted chickens on dirty sticks, guys waving fistfuls of cash to change into dollars. An entrepreneur with an old scale on a shaky bench announcing he is buying gold. A woman passes with a huge basket balanced on her head, walking rhythmically just as her ancestors had done.
The heat is like a sauna.
I begin to see the fabled King of Seduction at work. We walk together on the narrow, crooked sidewalks, narrowly missing being run over by Dominican car drivers. He has a manic grin.
"Hey you like them?" he calls to me, but he's already running after a three set
.
"Yo soy Elvis" he says, thrusting a torn piece of paper with his number at them. There are two little hearts on each side of the number.
The way he says it is like, Yes, I'm Elvis, I'm the King, you recognize me! I'm the man you dreamed about when you were a little girl. Maybe it started with the fear and fascination of the male power of her father and later was transformed into the magical certainty that a man would come and thrill her and redeem her from her poverty; to bring her into the happy land she knows she deserves.
Expressions turn from amusement into a smile. The pussy is talking, not the brain anymore. The eyes are hungry and curious, barely suppressing their excitement.
Yes, they take the paper. When he asks for their number, they write it. One girl is carrying an apple and delicately balances her precious paper on the apple for support.
We run through the stores carrying merchandise for 50 and 75 cents, Elvis scanning for fresh women and then running after them.
Lunch comes and we go back to my hotel. It's the only place I would trust the food. I am deathly afraid of catching some horrid parasite that would torture my stomach and make me live in the bathroom. I pay for lunch, of course.
The waitress I saw the previous evening is working. I tell them the story. Elvis' eyes light up. "I'll take care of that he says--high speed seduction like high speed cable, that's what we do."
I forget about it. Both are wonderful storytellers, full of useful philosophy of the war between the sexes. We are always talking excitedly about something. They've earned their battle medals through real experience.
The day is practically over. All I know is that a good amount of money has been subtracted from me and I've heard a lot of stories. Are they really just bullshitting?
"I have a girl lined up for you at 4:30," Alberto says.
The bachelor pad is a new two bedroom white house with a courtyard where you can catch a few breezes in the humid night. Not only is there no hot water, there is no cold water either. Nor is there electricity.
But don't worry, for some of Elliot's pesos, they get two guys to illegally hook up both.
Then I see her.
Sitting on the living room sofa, she looks like a well behaved tenth grader waiting for her test. Her push up bra shows she is a full woman, though.
Alberto advised me, "Don't say too much, you'll spoil it if you do."
I gaze at her flawless face and can't help saying "Tu sonrisa es muy amable" (Your smile is very friendly) and she smiles shyly.
My hand slips into hers and she squeezes it. She holds it. That is all I need to know.
Alberto gestures for me to go to the bedroom. I strip to my briefs and wait on the bed.
Alberto tells her I am an Americano looking for a Dominican sweetheart. But in America, the culture is different. There, the men all sleep with their girls before they become their novias (sweethearts). Luckily she hasn't been in America and doesn't know what fortune and heartache is usually required before even getting a kiss.
It is the same usually in the DR. First you get to know the family--all the members of the family--and after three months you get the peck on the cheek. Not in the world of Elvis and Alberto, though.
Lying on my elbow in the darkened bedroom, I see the door open, letting in golden light. Bienvenidos, I say with a soft voice.
She takes off her skirt and blouse and comes to me. I play the macho guy, lying back, letting her caress me first. I take off her bra without a slip. She slips a condom on and starts pumping away. Then all of a sudden I'm in her mouth, but have to stop her or else I'll come.
My fingers pass softly around her tender, melon-like breasts, down past her navel and teasing around her thighs. She has a very serious look on her face. We kiss. Her lips are soft and generous.
It all seems too wonderful to be true. When I'm licking her between her legs, I look up secretly to see her innocent face, open as a flower. I'm convinced she is "dormiendo con los angelitos" or dreaming with the angels.
When I enter, she seems hungry for it. I have to purposely slow her down to enjoy the rhythm. When we come, we're both sweating and relieved.
We dress, matter of factly, and I go to seek out Alberto. I'm full of gratitude. It's been a long time.
He advises me to give her a "regalo" or present if I want to. The equivalence of $30.00 and $3.00 for cab fare. She hasn't asked for anything and I'm more than willing to have her buy some perfume for herself or food for a week for her family.
I want to hug Alberto like a brother. All the inconveniences and expenses now seem like the best investment.
I'm standing in the kitchen perplexed.
Why are these girls throwing themselves on me? Back home in New York I've heard every excuse ever invented for "Let's Just Be Friends". Yet, over in the DR, they treat me, to borrow Elvis' phrase, like a "King".
There must have money involved, I think. But how could Elvis, one of the cheapest guys on earth, afford what was to be five girls for me the very first day? No, I don't believe he paid them a thing.
His explanation was first, I'm a Norteamericano White and the girls love the novelty and importance it brings in the eyes of their friends. And the second is Alberto's warm and friendly rapport with them. He says it is my custom to try out a girl in bed before I make her my novia and he is so persuasive and sexy at the same time, they believe him. The third reason is that they love to make love and don't have those awful societal prohibitions that our puritanical traditions have crippled our women with.
Alberto is a gentleman through and through. He made sure never to hurt their feelings, though he was macho with them at times. He suggested the equivalence of a $30 regalo or gift and $3.00 in taxi fare.
Now the girls never asked for this gift, but always graciously accepted it. One of the younger ones only asked for the Mars candy bar that was in the wet bar in my hotel room. (I gave it to her). Elvis, who was banging one or two girls a day never gave a regalo (he says he can't afford it now that he's lost the bulk of his money) and sometimes does not even give taxi fare which Alberto really despises.
So, we deliver my lovely flower to a taxi stand and off we go to a well deserved dinner in the hotel, for which I pay for Elvis and Alberto.
Alberto has something more set up--a two set this time. However, when we are leaving the hotel, we notice a young American Afro-American guest just getting a little kiss on the cheek from a chunky Dominicana who then sped away in her car.
Alberto and Elvis have this internal radar and know what has happened. Before even asking him, they know he met her, took her to a very expensive dinner at the hotel, then got one of the famous excuses why she had to go home.
Elvis introduces himself as the world's greatest pickup artist, to which I lend my recommendation. He talks him up about all the women he can get and Alberto sees a chance for an extra tip. He arranges to bring a girl for him.
All this is happening on my time, and I'm a little pissed.
A half hour goes by while Elvis and I wait in the lobby. Then Alberto's white jeep comes back with three girls, all 18-22, about 6's and 7's but with smoking bodies. He talks awhile with the black guy but is unable to make a deal for a small tip for himself.
Once again to be clear, no money is ever paid to the girls who are quite willing to go, but small tips are always appreciated.
So, what to do? We have three girls in the van, so how is Alberto going to smooth things out.
Well--he always has a solution!
We bring all three back to the bachelor pad. Alberto chats them up while I get friendly with the prettiest, hand in hand, hand on thigh--it's all very friendly. Alberto asks me if I'd like one, two or three--he doesn't know yet. I said just do the best you can.
I go into the bedroom and wait, as per our routine.
After about 15 minutes, the door opens and one, two AND three girls enter shyly.
Who is the first to "quitarse la ropa" or take off her clothes I ask. They have a friendly competition, and off come the pants and blouses.
They approach the bed gingerly as I lay back and wait for them. Gentleman that I am, I help them all off with their bras and then their tiny panties. Two of them who are old friends, appropriate my left and right nipples and start licking away, while the third, the most reserved, starts pumping away on my shaft. I take the sight in thoroughly enjoying the acres of naked flesh.
"I have to remember every second of this" I tell myself.
I can't stand it much more, so I take the role of director and tell them to all lie down on their stomachs, side by side.
Three of the most perfect Dominican asses expose themselves brazenly to my view. Without hesitation, I start slapping the total of six buttocks like I was playing bongo drums! They squeal with laughter! Especially when I hit them hard!
So I turn them all on their backs. I'm banging the middle one while I'm fingering the two others. I try to keep them all involved without letting them get jealous. The middle one is grinding away under me very forcefully. When she pauses, catching her breath, I move on the one next to her.
"Otro condom", Another condom, she says. Well, OK, that seems reasonable, as I follow her wish.
The third girl moves to the top of the bed and is fingering herself furiously, pleasuring herself. Her face is red with passion. While I'm banging one and touching her friend, I reach over and kiss her to bring her into the circle again. One of the friends leans over and kisses her friends breast. Such a tender sight...
(When they first came in I had asked if they like girls as well as boys and they were all shocked and said no.)
This goes on five times until by now I really want to come.
"Otra condom" the girl says.
I've gone through five condoms and I don't have any more!
I throw on my briefs and run out shouting for Alberto. Everyone is frantically looking for condoms but there are none in the house!
By the time we come back, the girls have cooled off and are dressing again. I look appealingly to Alberto, but he says not to worry. He has something else lined up in an hour.
I gratefully give each their regalo and Alberto whisks them away.
I later found out why there wasn't a condom in the house of the world's greatest pickup artist--he doesn't use them! Neither does Alberto.
Elvis just shrugs when I react. He also says that he hardly ever goes down on his women because he doesn't want them to fall in love with him. He says he has enough problems with former girlfriends calling and even climbing over his metal fence. If he gives them ordinary sex, he feels they won't be so pushy!
The three girls are whisked away to the taxi stand by Alberto and the stage is set for the next chica.
About an hour later, Alberto enters with her and her girlfriend.
It is the gypsy looking girl with the teasing smile I had met that day, coming out of the Santiago McDonalds with some friends. After Elvis had made his approach and I had rolled up and said "Yo soy Elliot", she snatched my Panama hat and put it on her head. A good sign!
After some more teasing flirtation, she pinched my cheek and said good bye. She had called a little while later and Alberto had fitted her in to the schedule.
I was gaining more confidence that these were just ordinary girls who had a lusty taste for sexual adventure. After all, I had met her myself on the street in mid day and no request for money was ever even hinted at.
"Photographs!" Elvis called and the two line up on either side. He took a regular shot and then I said, well let's be a little more friendly. I kissed one on the lips and then when I kissed the gypsy, she nibbled my lips. I felt her warm tongue on mine.
The last time I felt this special was at my bar mitzvah, when the photographer had two of my cousins kiss me at the same time.
Alberto motioned me into the bedroom while he had a word with them. As I passed, I told him I just wanted the gypsy. That was fine, because Elvis was getting hungry for his daily bang and her friend would do fine, though she looked like she was pushing 22.
Fifteen minutes later, the bedroom door opens and in comes my gypsy. Her top is off in a flash, and then it's my delightful duty to take off the rest. She teases me about being "gordito" even though I'm in good shape. I say I'm an hombre who is strong. It's OK for a guy. But a chica? I pinch an extra inch or two from her waist. She must be skinny! She laughs.
This was important for the power balance. Alberto was teaching me always to be in control. This seemingly innocent shit test could have been the start of the erosion of my power.
This was a crucial part of the anguished philosophy of the sexes that Elvis and Alberto preached.
If you love a woman and let her know you're vulnerable, she'll use you, take your money and make off with the next handsome stranger. But if you keep control, play with several women (though hiding the fact from her) so you don't get desperate for sex, you'll be adored and loved and get hot sex any time you want it.
We made love like two kids slurping up bowls of ice cream on a hot summer day.
When we came out, she was so friendly I wanted to stay with her. I really wanted to go dancing and Elvis and Alberto were up for it.
We piled into the jeep and went off to the Rancho Merengue, a local dance club with about 25 people in the raucous band. Elvis methodically cut up a napkin to stuff his ears, but the music intoxicated me. I had spent $50.00 on a merengue lesson in New York, and boy was that a terrific investment. The gypsy could not stop moving so I grabbed her hand and ran to the dance floor with her. I led her through all the graceful turns and her smile let me know she was delighted. The way she pressed her hips against me was definitely not taught in the dance school.
I danced until my shirt was soaking wet.
The dance hall admission and drinks cost a grand total of $30.00 for 5 people--Elvis, Alberto, the gypsy, her friend, and me. A late night dinner at a Dominican diner cost another $30.00 for all of us, including the cerveza. When I remembered the $300.00 dates in New York, with just a quick kiss good night.....
Elvis whispers that she wants to stay with me tonight and give me a massage and take care of me. My concern is my wallet. Some of even the nicest girls, I heard, will take money from a guy, not because they're bad, but because in their mind, if he's a novio, then she's entitled. So I left my wallet with him, except for a few pesos and to give her a generous $30.00 regalo.
But to be fair to this prejudice, nothing was ever taken from me by any person.
About 4:00 in the morning Alberto drops me off at the Gran Almirante. I stroll confidently, hand in hand with the gypsy, past the front desk and then we're at home base--the elevator.
Her eyes are as big as pancakes. All this luxury! This definitely helps my cause.
Later in the room she watches the Flintstones in Spanish on the TV while I shower. I spoon her in bed, but after 5 girls that day, I feel I can pass on another time, so soon we are asleep.
The next morning she looks wistfully at me and asks "Cuando regresara", when will I return?.
I lie to all of them. I say I'm coming back next month. This way their dream of a novio from norteamerica is still in place.
I never lie in my real life, especially about something so important as this. Boy am I bad. I'm a badboy.
But all hesitation vanishes when she sees the buffet breakfast, with everything and more piled up for the taking. She takes some bacon quizzically and asks what it is. I try to explain. She loads her plate and we both go to work happily.
I show her the hotel--the waterfalls, the pool, the heart stopping view of the mountains. I feel her sadness. She knows she will never see me again.
But I've got to get her out of there by 12:00 because Alberto is coming, so I take her quickly to the taxi outside. I lie some more. I feel like some other person, not me.
But I like the sense of power.
Alberto swings by with Elvis and off we go to run through the streets of Santiago, hunting for young bodies. I am so intrigued by Elvis' method. He says that even when he was a young boy, all the females in the family would flock around him and make a fuss over him. I've noticed that guys who are good with women were always good. He did radiate a tremendously welcoming energy that make you feel good to be around him.
He is 100% committed. Sometimes he curses Alberto, for not stopping the jeep fast enough, so he can get out and chase after the girls. Some young girls in their Catholic school uniforms parade by and a devilish gleam appears in his eye. You know, you can get away with practically anything but not taking virgins in this country. And the jails here are the worst in the world. Fifty guys in a room with just a hole in the floor to do your thing, with everyone watching.
Then we see Natasha. "Haitian", Alberto says sagely.
She's with two friends. She looks as cool as a model on a runway in the filthy heat of a Dominican afternoon. Elvis thrusts his paper in her hands and she snatches a glance at me. She smiles.
Well on to the next ones. The first girl I had has kept calling for me and Alberto's phone is always lit up with girls. They have three mobiles. One for the girls, one for backup, in case the battery is dead, and a third for Elvis' business.
Alberto suddenly informs me we are going to visit his wife.
Actually he tells me he has five wives and assorted children but this is his real wife.
So he drives us through bone jangling roads, past one room cinder block shacks until we arrive at his house which is a pretty decent one story building. It is interesting seeing guys in shirtsleeves drinking beer in front of their TV's through their open doors. There is little sense of private and public space, except for the metal bars which are everywhere.
We enter and his wife is very beautiful and gracious. She keeps her home neat and clean. Her two boys shyly poke their heads out of their rooms. She is bursting with love and pride that her husband is visiting her.
He tells her he has to work and travel a few days a week which is why he can't be home all the time. She makes him a lunch of rice, beans and spaghetti and off he runs with me. I avert my eyes when he kisses her good-bye. She glows like a teenager in love.
So why is the bad boy, who fools around with so many women, an irresistible magnet to them? While most guys, who run after their women, bore them to death?
This is the graduate school education I've really come down to matriculate in.
Later, when I feel the danger of falling in love with Natasha, Elvis takes me aside and tells me how Alberto had gotten to be a pickup artist second only to the King!
Alberto was passionately in love with a six foot, 210 lb. black woman. Who was ugly as sin.
When Elvis started teaching him about girls, his woman would get drunk and try to beat him up. Although six foot himself, he was barely able to escape with his life. They were both afraid that she'd take a knife to him one day and Elvis confessed he just didn't want to do without such a devoted friend. So he persuaded Alberto to leave.
For months, he did not shave or take care of himself, he was so heartsick. But gradually, under the King's tutelage, he finally got his strength back and developed this deep attraction from women.
So, Elvis says, it is taking the love of a good woman and throwing her away that really makes the hard core pickup artist...
The day is rapidly vanishing and I haven't been laid yet! He looks at me knowingly.
We wait at the taxi stand for one of the girls who called earlier to show up. After 20 minutes he gives up and starts driving again. We are going to pick up a girl and her friend who he knows from a previous pickup.
They climb in the jeep, giggling quietly to themselves. They're both under 20, with pushup bras and revealing blouses--the style in the barrio. Alberto laughs and says they want to go to McDonalds but we're going to the house first.
"Sometimes, when you feed them first, they don't want to do it. Their stomach hurts or some other excuse."
Back at the bachelor pad, Elvis is nowhere to be seen. Who is going to take care of the friend?
Same routine. This time, two are much easier to handle than three (especially when you've had the experience). Once again, I have to pull them off me or else I'll come. I lay the two, side by side on the bed, banging one while fingering the other. I climax in the other and then they disappear into the bathroom.
We drop them off with my generous $30.00 regalo and full bags of McDonalds and they're very happy. He stops off at another family he has, a beautiful young woman with his child who are just going off to Church with their family. He gives his son a banana and he is ecstatic at his father's gift. I give him a few pesos for pastelles.
When we return to the hotel for steak dinners on my account and we see my waitress, Elvis tells me he has a surprise for me tonight. But first he tells me that the stunning Black girl, Natasha called and she will be picked up for a date at the pad. I'm very pleased.
She climbs aboard the jeep at the taxi stand, barely acknowledging me. Alberto keeps her smiling by his persuasive chatter.
I had learned that these girls are pretty quiet when they are with men they are serious about. If the understanding is that they are together, no words have to be spoken. I tested this by slipping my hand into hers and she readily took it. After a while she played with my fingers and I reciprocated.
Elvis, who understands these things, had advised me also not to talk.
"You'll probably end up spoiling things," he said.
Still, I couldn't resist.
"Tu sonrisa es muy amable" I said and she smiled adorably.
When we got to the house, I never realized how or when our hands had become entwined. We were sitting on the sofa and I teased her about her practicing Voodoo since she came from Haiti. Was she was going to practice any love spells on me!
Her face became very serious.
"I do not believe in Voodoo but my brother practices it. He has a whole temple in his home. Do you practice Voodoo?," she asked me searchingly.
"Sometimes", I said, referring to my leather bracelet.
It was composed of two strands of leather that were interwoven.
"When I give this to the special girl I meet, our lives will be united as tightly as these two bands of leather."
I could see she expected me to make her a present of it. But hey, I've learned that presents are given to a girl after they perform, so it stayed with me, as did my power.
"Pictures!" Elvis called.
He took one of us together and then another one of us kissing. Her lips were given so freely it excited me.
Off to the bedroom, while Alberto gave his spiel.
Fifteen minutes later, she walks in, takes her blouse off and goes to the adjoining bathroom to wash up.
"Venga aqui" I order gently (macho man that I am).
She cuddles besides me but then she asks why should I have my friends talk to me when I should be talking to her.
I sense she cares about me and this puts her in a totally different category than the other women.
I tell her "With someone like you, muy singular, I want everything to be perfect and so my good friends give me such useful advice."
I remove her white skin tight pants and then she straddles me, grinding me around and around.
I am slow to get hard. Of course the seven women I've had in the last day and a half had something to do with it.
But it's something more--I want to talk to her, so I stop her, gazing deeply into her black cat's eyes.
"When will you return, she asks?"
"Oh, next month, on business" I lie. I feel rotten, but Elvis tells me to say this.
"What are you looking for?"
"A novia, a girlfriend", which is true, though one who won't mind my banging a lot of other girls on the side.
She kisses my nipple and I get aroused. I take my time, looking at her dark, silken body. Mysterious tattoos appear with mystical meanings I don't care to know about. Stretched out on one arm I tell her she resembles the painting, "The Naked Maja" by Goya, but she never heard of the painting and she never heard of Goya.
Suddenly her cell phone rings. I can't believe she starts talking now! At first I though she activated it just for the swell music, but no, she starts calmly talking to her friend! I get pissed at this sign of disrespect and slowly get up and leave, looking for my guys.
I tell them what happened but they pooh poohed it and told me to get back in there. They said it was a cultural thing and that it's done all the time down there and was not like an American dis.
"Hey, look," I said, "the real thing is that I don't want to lie to her. I'm not coming back for her. She's so sweet! I'm beginning to really like her!"
This touched a nerve in both the hardened pickup artists.
Alberto cut through the bull crap and just ordered me back into the bedroom. "Be a man," he said. "You've got to get past this to be a pick up man, or else you'll always end up a sucker like most men. Women like stories better than the truth, let them have what makes them the most happy."
Elvis was more philosophical, starting to quote one of his advice columns. "You've got to make a good woman fall in love with you and then throw her away. That's how you begin to get good with women."
We wandered through the house, catching a solitary breeze in the courtyard.
I walked back in under my will's command. When I got there, she was so apologetic. It was her girlfriend! She had called to see if she was safe."
"Oh," I said feeling silly.
I softly brushed the tattoo on her shoulder then licked it. I got down to business.
Shortly later, being inside her was like being on a roller coaster ride in Coney Island. I put her two legs together for maximum rolling action but did not come though she certainly had a good time.
Later I rolled over. I don't know why, but tears sprouted out of my eyes.
"Por que, mi amor" she said.
"Look, I don't know if we will fall in love. I don't know what the future will bring."
She wiped away my tears and held me.
Well, the curtain fell on that scene and we dropped her off at the taxi stand. I gave her such a long hug, the taxi drivers started to hoot "Amor!, Amor!".
Then, we stopped at another taxi stand a few blocks away where my surprise was waiting for me.
It was the waitress at the hotel! The one who reminded my of my lost affair with the Dominican in New York! But now after all these 20 year olds, she appeared older at 35 and a little stocky. "No," I told Elvis, "I don't want her now."
Alberto would do anything not to really hurt the feelings of a woman and a flat out rejection was beyond his code. He said we should drive her to her home and I'll talk with her in the car for a half hour.
I now had the "Let's Just Be Friends" experience from the opposite side!
Seated beside me in the darkness, I told her "Tu sonrisa es muy amable" and she smiled just like the others. She was very close to me so it was nothing to take her hand which she squeezed. Again, that silence, but the deep understanding that she was mine for the taking. She talked about her son who is going to study to be a doctor and I felt her pride. I kissed her on the cheek and she seemed grateful. Then suddenly I told her that my stomach aches, it must have been something we had for dinner. She expressed concern but she understood.
When we arrived at her small house, I jumped out of the jeep to open the door on the other side. "Tu es una buena persona" I said with all my heart and kissed her on the cheek for the last time.
When I got back to my hotel room, my mind was in a warm haze, thinking of Natasha. I had been on a steady high ever since I met Elvis, but when I decided to rest on the bed just for a moment with all my clothes on, I immediately sank into one of the deepest sleeps of my life.
The next morning, Elvis and Alberto arrived for the free breakfast. They were "reading" this big handsome motorcycle guy who had just paid for two so-so Dominican girls. "Watch", they told me.
A little later, we saw him get on his huge, exciting Harley. He was begging the chicas to get on board but they had other things to do. He roared off alone.
Elvis would point out these things as lessons. This is what most men get--spend hundreds of dollars and months of time to get a peck on the cheek or the opportunity to spend even more money and time.
That's not Elvis' way. You bang them, THEN you date them!
We were riding around Santiago. I really wanted to spend time with Elvis watching him run after the young women and see the shock on their faces quickly replaced by lustful flirtation. I had made a date with Natasha for 2:00--swimming in the Olympic sized hotel pool-- but I had Alberto delay until 5:00.
They decided it was a good time for me to pay for their car wash, so both vehicles were driven there. Alongside of the wash, where the customers waited, was a huge outdoor pavilion. All the guys were sitting around tables in the heat with their cervezas frias. The waitresses, with comically huge buttocks, sashayed past the customers, teasing them, giving them little kisses and whispering in their ears. Alberto pointed out that some of the guys would drink 15 beers and then compete with their friends as to how much money in tips to give them. The point was that none of them were man enough to make a proposition to them.
We remained with one beer at our table for what seemed an hour. A girl at another table caught a glance at Alberto. He returned such a steely stare that it would have made Superman's X Ray vision look wimpy.
Finally we were on our way, heading to a wealthy girl's luxury house nestled in the beautiful mountains above the city. Marble floors and antique furniture graced the mansion. The two sisters, about 20, invited us in for beer around an elegant glass coffee table. "Oh you speak such good Spanish," she said. "I'd love to learn to speak English." "Perhaps you need a Professor", I said.
"Will you be my Professor", she asked.
"Quizas" Perhaps.
Alberto had them all rolling in the sofas, doing dance moves and teasing them in a good hearted way. He was the ultimate professional, never getting in my way in terms of seducing the girls for himself, but just persuading them to come to me.
I took him aside and told him I was just thinking about Natasha and didn't want the rich girl. He was noticeably perturbed, also not wanting to hurt her feelings. I had started to sweat because of the heat in the living room, so I made the sign that I was sick.
Alberto spent almost 20 minutes with her reassuring that it was not my rejection but just that I was ill. "She was yours," he laughed when we got back into the car, but they were both gentle with me because they know how I felt about my new novia Natasha.
They pick her up and deliver her to the hotel lobby where I'm waiting. Once again, I barely remember clasping her hand but in all the photos Elvis took of us then, they are always nestled inside one another.
I take her on a tour of the hotel, the waterfall, the restaurant, the pool, etc. She has never learned to swim but she likes the heated whirlpool. She looks a little like the young Trya Banks to me, a sign that my objectivity is eroding.
Back in the hotel room, I turn on the radio and we're dancing the Merengue.
So easily she fall into my arms and then onto the bed. Proud and thoughtful and beautiful she is; I'm beginning to fall for what I don't know.
A sad love song languishes on the radio. "Amor cruel" I catch.
She does not let me kiss her though her clothes fly off easily. She keeps asking "cuando regresera" when will I return. I lie again, feeling terrible. I'm not ever going to return but I can't tell her. I've got to keep her beautiful story going and I've got to get myself laid!
But I don't want to rush this. I embrace her and plant my head on her soft breasts. She had a spiritual beauty that always made her appear nude but not naked. Resting on her thigh, I get hard. I lie back, in my full glory as a male when she delivers the bombshell.
"You will send me regalos when you are away," she orders, like it's understood.
"I don't know what I'll do," I say. "I give gifts when the feeling comes."
"But you will send me gifts," she insists.
I freeze. I turn over on my back.
After awhile I feel her spidery fingers making their way towards my balls.
I'm so confused. So this is where the love boat goes, into that graveyard of suckers. I was spreading my net for her but it seemed that she was spreading the larger net for me!
I wasn't having any of it.
A long, long silence ensued. God it was awful.
"What do you want to say," she says.
"What do you want to say," I reply.
Finally, in slow motion I get up and begin to dress.
She falls apart.
"No, no, that is not what I meant." I would never do that to you!
I am so fucking confused.
I see the love in her face, so hurt.
She beckons me onto the bed and holds me like a child. All I know is that I don't want to lose this feeling of being connected.
But I can't sleep with her or that would seal our deal. I don't want her to think I'm taking advantage of her just to get my rocks off, which makes me a drop out in Elvis' eyes.
Eventually we get dressed and I escort her outside to a taxi. I can't meet her eyes. Finally she says "I'm afraid I will never see you again," and I lie once more. She reaches for by leather bracelet with the two strips tightly interwoven and this time I give it to her.
I hold her lightly and then let her go.
I call Elvis and tell him he should come over as soon as he can. I need to talk.
To his credit, Elvis is over to the hotel lobby in only 20 minutes.
He is less sarcastic and harsh than I thought he'd be.
He reveals wistfully what he missed by not having the straight life and chasing women all his life. He has a daughter of 37 somewhere but I gather he's not too connected. He is crazy about having kids of his own now, but a vasectomy he had performed when he was 27 makes it impossible.
His real family is Momi, the 45 year old woman who cooks and looks after him. She saved his life once by taking him to the hospital when he was refusing to take an illness seriously. He takes her around sometimes to be seen so that she can feel like his wife.
The problem was her younger sister, who he naturally seduced. And then the pretty next door neighbor who he seduced. Not exactly your normal family man.
He advises me to forget about Natasha. "She's only going to suck money out of you," he says. And don't ever marry a Dominican woman and take her to the States. They'll either murder you for the money or divorce you in the first year! It's better to just set her up in an apartment and have your freedom."
He doesn't really know her, I think. I'm floating in a haze, remembering feelings of being in love in the past.
But I haven't been laid today! Now I'm feeling like Elvis, who needs at least one a day.
Not to worry.
About 2 hours later, Alberto drops off this girl, just 18, with a curvy body, no body fat on her. She comes up to my room and soon we're dancing the Merengue naked. She loves to look at her lithe body in the mirror.
And then, what a surprise! She has me in her mouth and I feel the piercing in her tongue against me! A little silver barbell!
I always wondered how that would feel, looking at the Goth girls on St. Marks Place New York's East Village.
Then, we're doing the horizontal merengue on the bed, and everything is so easy and uncomplicated. Number 9!
The only thing she asked for was a Mars bar chocolate candy that was in the wet bar!
As a gentleman, I escorted her to the taxi outside the hotel and gave her a regalo of $30.00 for perfume and to get her hair done. Then it was back to bed for a night of well earned sleep.
Elvis took me to the airport the next morning and I felt a deep appreciation for him. What he said was true. With his method, he's slept with about 20,000 women and made it possible for me to experience the thrill of seducing young, beautiful women.
Conclusions:
Women in the DR are different:
1: Their culture permits them to enjoy sex way more than in the US.
2: They are attracted to older white guys who are American. Both because they are culturally conditioned to older men and because it offers a chance, no matter how distant, to escape the absolute poverty of the country.
3. I don't think his method will work anywhere as well in the States as it does in the DR. Women are more financially independent and have more choices as to age. There is the converse prejudice against older guys which make it difficult to just go over to a 20 year old and ask if they want to become your girlfriend.
Having said that, I'm finding it very refreshing to approach women in such a direct way back here in New York. The other seduction methods seem so devious and needy by comparison. I lack a good wing man so that is holding me back a lot.
Much of the criticism of Elvis stems from people's beliefs systems. It is simply not in their reality that girls will agree to sleep with you in just a few minutes. It is entirely understandable, but all I can say is that Elvis has pushed the boundaries of my reality wide open.
Post Note:
Back in New York I sent Natasha the photos showing us in love (to my eyes, anyway). I'm in a sparkling white suit with blue silk handkerchief matching a sky blue shirt, her hand is always in mine, her Mona Lisa smile radiating.
I thanked her for two days of happiness and told her I wasn't coming back soon. Nothing happened for a few days then I got an email:
hola mi amor,me ase mucho falta estoy muy triste porque me dise que no save
cuando tu regresas muchas gracias por las photos mi amor te quiero mucho y
guidate con dios porque es un buena persona.bey
She calls me mi amor and says she loves me deeply...
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MONTREAL JUNIOR LAIR FOUNDED!
Montreal Junior Lair: The Montreal X-Lair has been founded to help minors (who are not permitted to join the Montreal Lair until they are 18) get together and communicate. Lair applications would be sent to MontrealXLair@hotmail.com.
THE TORONTO LAIR The Toronto Lair is called TSN or Toronto Social.net. Anyone who gets to the homepage at http://www.TorontoSocial.net./ can email the webmaster to get information. If that's not an option, they can call Ike at: 416-628-9973 or his cell at: 416-300-6500.
Vancouver Social Board
A tight and good group of guys from various backgrounds who want to learn how to become better with women. We have two rules 1) this is not a competition, we are here to help each other and 2) you must be willing to try. We go out very regularly and have some skilled guys.
Visit Yahoo Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vancouversocialboard/ Contact: Docandwriter (docandwriter@shaw.ca) Victoria Social society
This is an open group for all you Victorian men (Victoria, British Columbia, Canada)who wish the study and pursue the art of seduction.
Visit Yahoo Group:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/victoriasocialsociety/
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Calgary Social Group
This is the Calgary PUA Lair for men (young and old) who want to get together to discuss PU and go sarging in Calgary. This group is meant to enrich the lives of men and, I believe ,women indirectly. Everyone can learn and it's only the lack of support and positive influence that cause people to stop trying. Here we can all grow as men and learn the skills we need to accomplish our goals.
Visit Yahoo Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/calgarysocialgroup/
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AUSTRIAN PLAYERS
Home of the legendary EuroSummit 2005, most diverse members from total beginners to serial layers from Austria, Germany and Switzerland. Join us! (If you happen to ravel by, drop us a line!) Visit: http://www.austrianplayers.com Contact: Neodes@austrianplayers.com
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I'm starting a lair in Portland, Maine so we can truly be "the way life should be"!
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AFCs to PUAs. Meet and share seduction tips. We meet once a week and help push members to become the man they desire!
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NEW LAIR FORMING IN NORFOLK-VIRGINIA BEACH, VIRGINIA
I'm interested in starting a Seduction Lair in the Norfolk-Virginia Beach area. If anyone is interested, please email me. Thanks,
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NEW LAIR FORMED IN DENVER
Denver Lair is a community for Denver/Boulder/Colorado area PUAs to wing, talk about the game and make friends in the community. If you're in the Colorado, join our yahoo-group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/denver_puas/
NEW LAIR FORMING IN RICHMOND, VIRGINIA
Hi, I'm starting a lair in Richmond, Virginia, the state capitol with a rather big scene. Currently all gamers in Richmond are forced to go up to DC, or down to North Carolina if they wish to attend a lair meeting. I would like to keep that experience at home, as we have many beautiful women in this wonderful city. Send an email to miikey723@yahoo.com if you wish to join.
EUROPE LAIR FOUNDED
Red Priest has founded the Europe Lair. You can find the description here:
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ISRAEL LAIR:
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DUNEDIN, NEW ZEALAND LAIR FORMING
For all you Otago students (or campus orbiters) who think you got game! This will be the southernmost lair in the world. Run by an RAFC with a fair bit of bookwork and small experience- any skill level you want, just prepared to approach, talk and try out new stuff. Email me at beest.goes.roar@gmail.com, and will see if we can't get a local lair started. it's time to bring the game to the deep south!
WELLINGTON, NEW ZEALAND LAIR:
A new lair is starting up in Wellington, NZ. Primary focus will be regularly going out and working in the field. Anybody who wants to join constructive, like-minded people in persuingthe PUA lifestyle; email Matt on moxyfmac@gmail.com
TAMPA BAY AND ST. PETE, FLORIDA:
We started a new Lair in the Tampa Bay area. All styles welcome. e-mail us at paradigmaman@yahoo.com
NEW LAIR FORMING IN GENEVA
We want to create a Lair in Geneva, Switzerland. It would be open to French and English speaking people living in Geneva and neighbouring cities like Lausanne and France as well willing to meet and seduce women. All skill levels and ages are accepted. The main task of the Lair will be field experiences on a regular basis. Contact Julien at : Julien72@bluewin.ch
NEW GROUP FOR CHICAGO
Chicago Wingman Meetup Group which currently holds meetings on the first Saturday of every month at 3:00 pm, the place will be disclosed to members once they sign up for the group. The website address is http://wingman.meetup.com/18/ - this group is combining with the Chicago Lair, whose contact was Eric at theprogen2003@yahoo.com Since they've just starting to hold meetings, they have a flexible format but as they get more organized they plan to have guest speakers. Anyone who knows a local PUA (not self proclaimed) is encouraged to invite him/ her over to share ideas. Please post all org issues under http://www.fastseduction.com/cities/Chicago
NEW LAIR FOR EDMONTON
*The Mastermind* The Mastermind is a highly exclusive Pick Up Artist Lair. Based out of Edmonton, Canada we assist guys who are serious and motivated to improve their Pick Up Artist game. We’re located at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/edpualair/ You can also email: manofadventure@jasons-world.com
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The Seduction Lair is up and running in San Rafael, California. Contact activte@aol.com for more information.
PARIS PICK UP CLUB
Formed by a group of FRIENDLY motivated guys from all nationalities with some solid game. The Paris Pick Up Club (PPC) is where all the PUA's and RAFC's BROTHERS living in Paris can share experiences, wing with different people and practice techniques. The goal is to IMPROVE our GAME while having lots of FUN. Since the purpose of the PPC is to practice, in order to join, future members must be available to SARGE regularly. Contact alfaztec@yahoo.com
BELGIUM: NL Lounge at http://dutchseduction.com/"> DutchSeduction.com
An independent platform for the phenomenon known as "seduction" in the Dutch language with members in Amsterdam, the Netherlands, Belgium and points beyond. Founded in 1999, we are one of the first international groups dedicated to seduction. Our purpose is to help members meet one another and share information and experience. Write to passie at passie@gmail.com Visit our Website: http://www.dutchseduction.com/"> http://www.DutchSeduction.com
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NEW LAIR IN NEW ORLEANS
There is a new Lair in New Orleans and here is the info:
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DALLAS LAIR
The Dallas Seduction Lair has been around for over a year now. We have had 18 official events of both discussion and seminar style events. As well as countless nights of sarging with newfound wingmen by our members. We are now over 120 members strong. Anyone at any skill level with a desire to learn is welcome. More information at: http://wingman.meetup.com/6/ or http://www.dallasseductionlair.com/"> http://www.DallasSeductionLair.com
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HUNGARIAN LAIR FORMING
Hungarian Lair (Budapest) invites all visiting and local people for a great time of sarging in Budapest clubs and streets. We field test MM, SS, RSD, Maniac Plan and various other stuff. Contact us at redpriest_hu@yahoo.com!"
NEW LAIR FORMING IN ITALY:
Our goal is to have a lot of FUN! Why did we create a Lair? To keep in touch with each other and to rock the Italian scene, we want to live like rockstars since we know we DESERVE IT. We have had enough of all the boring guys and loser boyfriends out there that are making women's lives a nightmare when they are waiting for US, the playboys. Join us and we will share with you a lot of secrets that you need to know to totally transform your life life and get more choice not only in life but with every relationship. In order to learn you must be willing to go out with us and try new stuff asking to yourself: "What is possible? What if I get the results I only dreamed of and then even more than that?" Send an email at italy_lair@yahoo.com to join.
NEW LAIR FORMED IN NORWICH (UK):
The Norwich lair has been setup for RAFC and PUAs from East Anglia (UK) who wish to go sarging in in Norwich City Centre. The group is open to everyone who is serious about fieldwork in the Norwich area, and membership is free of charge. Norwich is about 2 hours from London by train. To join the listsend an email to norwichlair-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.
OHIO LAIR FORMED:
An Ohio Lair has just been created for ASFers located in Ohio. I'm hoping to have regular sarging meetings at different cities in Ohio and regular guest speakers. Any ASFer in Ohio who is interested in joining please email me an intro of yourself to philonous03@yahoo.com.
VIRGINIA/CAROLINA LAIR GROUP
The VAC (Virginia Carolina) Lair is a community for Virginia and Carolina area PUAs to talk about the game, make friends in the community, and meet up with wings in the area. Current members are located in the Charlotte, Blacksburg/Radford, and Raleigh/Chapel Hill areas. While those from outside this area are encouraged to participate, most events will likely be held within these areas. The VAC Lair is open to all levels from Beginner to PickUp Artist (PUA). Just come with a desire to learn, a willingness to share what you know, and a commitment to field test what you learn. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vaclair/
NEW YORK CITY LAIR:
New York City Team Strike Force - The oldest lair in the U.S. and the only one that can lay claim to having dedicated instructors of reputation on staff, just for the members. Very organized, very respected and very strong sense of community, as well as life balance. You know you want us. Visit @ http://www.nyclair.com/"> http://www.nyclair.com Please email admin@nyclair.com to request information about membership.
SECOND NEW YORK LAIR STARTED:
With the help of a few friends, Strongbad has started a lair in NYC. Send an email to either strongbadpua@yahoo.com or
NY-PLAY-subscribe@yahoogroups.com to join if you live in the NY area.
BLOOMINGTON LAIR STARTED:
The Bloomington, IN lair for guys interested in attraction/seduction. This is a group made for guys that want to discuss techniques, inner game, make
new friends, and meet up with wings in the Bloomington area. If your interested in subscribing email: b-lair-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
AUCKLAND, NEW ZEALAND LAIR
Anyone living in Auckland (New Zealand) are welcome to join this bad ass lair. It's consantly growing, we have guys with all sorts of experience levels with diverse styles of game. We SARGE regularly. So if you're up for some fun e-mail us at akpuah@gmail.com"
SCOTLAND LAIR:
There is now a Scotland Lair. It's the SSs Group and we have a website at http://www.scotlandlair.com/"> http://www.scotlandlair.com that we JUST put up. The group is currently yahoo based and we would like to start taking in any members who may or may not have heard about us yet. To join, they can visit SSs.scotlandlair.com which will redirect them to our mailing list, or email signup@scotlandlair.com for more instructions on joining. The website is starting to grow big as it's seen on ASF. We have our own discussion forums. We also have a photo and VIDEO gallery where PUAs can upload their own photos and videos and browse those of others!! We are also giving out free scotlandlair.com email addresses to contributors.
BRAZIL NOW HAS A LAIR:
To join please send an email to Brazil_P-L-A-Y-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
NEW LAIR FORMING IN TOKYO:
The Tokyo lair now has a discussion board for discussing the finer points of the Japanese scene, guys looking to meet wings and discuss all things nanpa can email tokyolair@hotmail.com for an invite to the board.
NEW LAIR FORMED IN ARIZONA:
We have formed a lair for guys interested in pickup and seduction in Arizona. It is open to anyone in the state, regardless of specific city, or skill level. If you are interested in joining, send an email to cramias@mail.com and you will receive an invite to our private forums.
ANNOUNCING SOUTH FLORIDA P-L-A-Y LIST:
The South Florida P-L-A-Y list is a community for Miami, Ft Lauderdale and Boca-Palm Beach area PUA's to meet up and improve their game in the field.
All methods are welcome. Please understand that our primary focus will be field work. To join, please contact Zuzu atSouthFlorida-P-L-A-Y-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
THE INDIA LAIR
We are a small but dynamic bunch of aspiring PUAs in India. Guys of all skill levels are welcome but MUST be serious about actually getting out in the field. Please register at the site. New registrants will be verified to weed out KJs. Visit http://www.indialair.com/"> http://www.indialair.com
BRISTOL LAIR
These guys have a truly great site, with a lot of terrific resources. Go to http://www.bristollair.com.
NEW LAIR FORMING IN DALLAS/FORT WORTH:
If you are interested in joining, please send an e-mail to dfwseductionlair@yahoo.com.
NEW LAIR IN GERMANY!
The name of the group is PU_Meetings_Germany. It´s a field oriented group and we welcome everybody from all over Germany to join and attend our meetings which are held in different cities all over Germany. For further information write to: pimpstylez@hotmail.com
NEW LAIR FORMING IN ORANGE COUNTY, CALIFORNIA:
A new lair called the O.C. Player's Group is forming for members of the seduction community in Orange County, California. The group will be a place for everyone from aspiring to accomplished PUAs in "the OC" to post their pick up experiences and successes and meet occasionally in a constructive and non-critical environment. Everyone is welcome, but you must be serious about becoming a PUA and the emphasis will be on getting out into the field and reporting on what worked and what didn't. Armchair pua/theorists need not apply! Contact pua1day (Kurt) for further information at o.c.playasgroup@sbcglobal.net or to join at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocplayasgroup/
NEW LAIR FORMING IN HARRISBURG, PA:
No keyboard Junkies, only people who are willing to go out in the field and just get better at the game. All levels are welcome. Contact Gaurang at
NEW SYDNEY LAIR STARTED!!!
Monthly meetings with guest speakers. All levels welcomed only prerequisite is that you are in the field. To join please email ta_justin@hotmail.com
NEW LAIR FORMING IN OKLAHOMA CITY:
Lu is looking to start a lair in Oklahoma City, OK. He would like to invite anyone who's interested in going out sarging to join, & help him get the lair started, please respond only if you are interested in Going Out & SARGE, or Doing Field Work, contact him at ljp97001@yahoo.com.
NEW LAIR FORMING IN PHILADELPHIA
Looking for a group of guys interested in a Lair in the Philly area. All experience levels welcome but must be willing to actually go into the field. See philadelphiaLair@yahoogroups.com or email me at myaroch@yahoo.com
NEW LAIR FORMING IN AUCKLAND, NEW ZEALAND:
We have already met-up with couple of local guys and SARGE 2-3 times a week. We are willing to meet-up with more guys to share the PU knowledge and experience to improve our game. Those of you who are interested contact us at sexualpredator@em-wave.com"
KANSAS CITY LAIR FORMING:
Looking to get a group of like minded guys together to share ideas and most importantly work the field in Kansas City MO. Write eclypz@hotmail.com and include "From Cliff's List" in the title.
NEW LAIR FORMED IN CONNECTICUT:
Open to PUAs and RAFCs who live in CT who are interested in or have real field experience as opposed to keyboard theory. Send an email to djsemtp00@aol.com with your background and experience.
NEW LAIR FORMED IN OTTAWA:
Ottawa Lair yahoo group created http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ottawalair/
NEW LAIR FORMED IN BOSTON:
The Boston Lair is now open. The lair is a forum for brothers in the Boston, Rhode Island, and upper New England area to get together and meet others in the game and to build an active community in Boston and the surrounding areas. To subscribe to the Lair, email b-o-s-lair-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.
NEW LAIR FORMING IN NORTH CAROLINA:
A group is interested in forming a lair in the North Carolina area. Members include attendees of the Charlotte Sargeathon in November 2003. Meetings may rotate through different cities (possibly outside North Carolina) depending on interest. Contact Jason at thee_jacas@yahoo.com with LAIR in the subject line for more information.
NEW LAIR FORMED IN POLAND:
We've formed a LAIR in Poland http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pflayers/join so if anybody is interested in joining it contact me at PFLayers-owner@yahoogroups.com or subscribe at PFLayers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com. It's unmoderated formum where You can excange your views on the game and meet with wings in your area.
NEW LAIR FORMING IN LAS VEGAS:
Nightlife who runs San Diego is helping a few guys set something up in Vegas so a new group is now forming. To join please send an email LV-P-L-A-Y-subscribe@yahoogroups.com be prepared to give a brief intro.
NEW LAIR FORMING IN ITALY:
Milano will be headquarters. All Italians, Swiss, Austrians, etc are welcome to join. Would like to set up infrastructure for weekly or biweekly weekend sargefests, both day and night. Goals include: hosting seminars/workshops of the world's best PUAs, sharing the best techniques for Italian hotbabes, sarging together, sarging trips to Roma, Firenze, etc. We need to get a solid core of about 10 guys to really get it going. All levels welcome. Email italypua@yahoo.com for info.
ATLANTA LAIR:
Contact: groovewhiz@yahoo.com NEW LAIR FORMING MILWAUKEE TO MADISON:
A Lair is start for the Milwaukee to Madison, Wisconsin area. Emphasis will be on field sarging and developing a network of like-minded "wings" to develop and maintain a secret society in this area. We will SARGE from the college bars of Madison to the redneck fishermen bars of Lake Country to the cheesy working class discos of Milwaukee. All interested parties (male or female) please contact g66@outgun.com
NEW LAIR FORMING IN MONTERREY, MEXICO:
The style I use is C&F from DYD, but am willing to try other styles, and will be very focused in going out and learning. Anyone interested in forming a Lair here in Mexico just write to me: javimartinez50@hotmail.com
NEW LAIR FORMING IN HONOLULU, HAWAII:
Showing those surfergirls a good time since late '03. Drop an e-mail to lair808@hotmail.com for more info on building sandcastles.
NEW LAIR IN CHINA (MAINLAND, TAIWAN, HK):
A list for China based PUA has been set-up. Discuss PU tactics/experiences in China, and meet and practice with other local PUA. Contact Angel Caido on el_angel_caido@lycos.com and join the group @ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PUA-china/join
NEW LAIR FORMING IN OSLO:
The Oslo Lair just opened. If you are interested / want to join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asf-Oslo/ and apply. We will start out with monthly meetings, on the first Sunday of every month. The first meeting will be held December 7th, at 18h00.
NEW LAIR FORMING IN LOS ANGELES:
The LA List, PLAY (Player's Los Angeles Yahoo) Group, is a community for Los Angeles area PUAs to talk about the game, make friends in the community, and meet up with wings in the LA area. The PLAY List is a community that is open to the public and is a place where you can share your views on any methods in an unmoderated (except for deletion of spam) forum. Contact Papa at papa@realsocialdynamics.com and get on the mailing list by emailing p-l-a-y-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.
WASHINGTON, D.C.:
DC Seduction, formerly known as DC Area PUAs, has been around since 2000. We are over three dozen brothers drawn from the FastSeduction, SS, and the Lounge communities. Contact Minger at minger@dcseduction.com
SEATTLE LAIR FORMING!
I would like to find out how many are interested in forming a Seattle Lair. Contact theloinking1@hotmail.com to get on their mailing list.
THE AUSTIN SOCIETY (AUSTIN, TEXAS)
The Austin Society is a group of friends, within the greater Austin/San Antonio area, improving their attraction and relationship skills through field work and study. If you are interested in joining and contributing to our group, email us at theaustinsociety@yahoogroups.com for more info. Open-minded gentlemen of all skill levels are welcome."
NEW ORLEANS LAIR FORMING:
Joseph is looking to set up or find a "mastermind group" of likeminded people and he is in the south MS area about 1.5 hours drive from New Orleans or the MS gulf coast. He would like to invite anyone in MS/LA/AL within driving distance to participate, and to help him to get it started. Contact him at: veuxdeux@yahoo.com
NYC:
Contact Marco, marcorulesinfinity@yahoo.com and get on their mailing list: NYCTSF-SUBSCRIBE@YAHOOGROUPS.COM
SAN DIEGO (TWO GROUPS NOW!):
1) The San Diego lair is now opening their doors to potential new members for the next 30 days. If interested in joining the San Diego lair please contact Nightlife at nightlife@playboylifestyle.net
2) Pete M., and Nightlife have formed another seduction group in San Diego. This is to benefit guys who are interested in Pick Up who live or frequent San Diego. It is a group that is modeled after the LA P-L-A-Y list. To join send an email to SD-P-L-A-Y-subscribe@yahoogroups.com It is open to everyone in San Diego.
SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA LAIR:
We have a very active group in the San Francisco area dedicated to improving their game. All skill levels and types of game welcome. We have meetings once every 6 weeks or so, and numerous SARGE outings. We also have top PUA's share their knowledge with us when they come to San Francisco. Our list traffic is low but valuable. Lots of field reports and feedback. To join send an email to sf_morpheus_x@yahoo.com, and mention you heard about us on Cliff's list.
DETROIT LAIR:
New lair starting in Detroit area. Guys of all skill levels are welcome but MUST be SERIOUS about learning. The group will be interactive and do field work also.
Any one willing to learn or teach is welcome. Send Greg an email saying your interested at Grgreg_2001@yahoo.com
HOUSTON:
http://www.houstonlair.com Members of the Lair meet regularly, actively apply and improve their skills and are eager to teach success. Contact: xmlenigma, bashev can be reached at xmlenigma@yahoo.com, rnkayab@hotmail.com
MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA: Turning KJs into Active PUA
Members meet twice weekly with approximately 200+ registered members. Currently run mini study groups on Mystery Method, Gunwitch Method, Juggler, SS. We usually meet out in the field and streets so there is plenty of field practice. Our Sarge-Fest is a great learning night for newbies where some of Australias best PUA coach you to improve your game. We also organize other activities such as Salsa dance nights for our members and we encourage our members to contribute back to the community to help it grow. The lair currently runs its own forum so come join this active lair.
Contact iceman at melb.lair.autoreply@gmail.com. See http://Melb-Lair.com
AUCKLAND, NEW ZEALAND
Philip has started a LAIR for those who live in the upper North Island of New Zealand (Auckland, Hamilton, Tauranga, etc). There are already 4 of them who have been meeting regularly in Auckland, and they welcome others to be in touch. SSer's from elsewhere in New Zealand are also welcome to email to share experiences and form a network. Contact: philip@toeb.co.nz
MIAMI:
Contact Jerry at trudelle@email.com to attend.
LONDON, ENGLAND
The London Seduction Society http://www.thelss.com
AMSTERDAM:
Contact Big Bear http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nllounge/
The main purpose of the Lair is to help Wingmen to get in touch with each other and "in field" action! Membership open to anyone who lives in Holland or Belgium, or is a frequent visitor. However membership policy is strict.
PERTH, AUSTRALIA:
The Perth lair is a small group of people who SARGE regularly several times a week. At the moment, I'm actively looking for new members to join us on our outings (the more the merrier!). Anyone wishing to go sarging with us any day of the week should email me at tnejad@hotmail.com to meet up.
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Blake Richards has put out a new ebook that looks very interesting. Check it out here: http://www.social-mastery.com/Game.html
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Real Social Dynamics WORKSHOPS:
I highly recommend that you check these guys out. They are in the final stages of producing their long-awaited e-book as well as a redesign of their website.
Anyone interested in attending their seminars and/or workshops, email Papa at papa@realsocialdynamics.com with the subject "WORKSHOP" and mention that you heard about it from Cliff's List.
Real Social Dynamics (http://www.realsocialdynamics.com/ ):
Learn what works in seminar, and then jump directly into the field and watch the instructors demonstrate and teach it live. Stop feeling the fear of not knowing what to do ...
Individualized Bootcamps
Sign up and get more info here: http://www.realsocialdynamics.com/):
More info also available by sending an email to: support@relsocialdynamics.com
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The Venusian Art Society is dedicated to the pursuit of Relationship Mastery.
We have started a Yahoo group in each city our members are located in Denver,Houston, and Atlanta. You can register for membership by going to Yahoo and joining V_A_S_D or V_A_S_A or V_A_S_H. Be sure to include your experience in the Venusian Arts as well as what you hope to get out of them.
This forum will serve as a way to discuss any and all issues related to the Venusian Arts, from cold approach to relationship management. We welcome all active participants in the Venusian arts from any of the various schools such as MM, SS, DYD, etc..
This will be a controlled forum so feel free to post anything you want as long as it is directly relatable to the Venusian Arts. This is not a classified board or a place to advertise.
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New Dating/Seduction Seminars & Workshop in Montreal by DOC!
Doc, who many of you know from his great interview here last time and all too rare but outstanding posts on this list, on Mystery's Lounge, and the Montreal Lair, is bringing his seminars and speed dating events to Montreal. Previously they were mainly held in Toronto as part of the Learning Annex, Doc is now setting it up here and plans to hold events on a monthly basis.
The website is http://www.lifeskillsnetwork.ca. Registrations available on the website. The events are Dating Secrets for Women, a 3 Hour seminar (cost $50) and Dating Secrets for Guys; a Guide to The Art of Dating (also 3 hours and $50). There will also be a speed dating event in the evening for $50. You can contact Doc by email at seduction.school@sympatico.ca.
The fall calendar has a full weekend seminar and makeover. He also has 3 new books coming out this fall under the SETNA Dating Manual Series. Volume I (to be released this week) deals with the psychology of attraction, first impressions, and working on your inner game, Volume II (coming in September) deals with tactics and strategies to go from meeting her to dating her, and Volume III will deal with Managing Relationships.
Full-weekend Dating Makeover workshops will be offered soon (including a half day with a personal stylist, video tape analysis of body language, and live practice sessions with dating coaches beautiful women who will give the guys on the spot feedback on how they come across and what to improve). If there is a group of 10 or more guys interested in a seminar (or 5 guys for a workshop, he would consider making a special trip to their city).
This is a great opportunity to learn from a real master.
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Mystery Method Workshops:
What method are YOU using?
If you are opening groups (or sets: 2-sets, 3-sets, mixed sets, etc) of people with the 3 second rule by stacking indirect openers (including false opinion openers), false time constraining (discovered by Style), demonstrating a higher value to your romantic interest’s peer group with high octane DHVs while she obliquely observes (locking her into her own set with a prop), and simultaneously performing false disqualifiers (which include negs) on her with the intension of disarming her peergroup and then isolating her to rebuild her self-esteem once you have enough IOIs (indicators of interest) so you may share in a comfort and trust building effort and then build in a jealousy subplot to solidify her attraction for you, you are using The Mystery Method.
If instead you are only approaching women who are alone, you are greatly limiting your options and quite likely alienating your target's friends. Do you want a lonely woman (why is she lonely?) or a woman who already has a healthy social lfe? Truth is, healthy women have healthy relationships ... sometimes good friendships with guys. Like it or not, you will have to meet these women with men in her group.
Women of beauty are rarely found alone. Don't miss the opportunity to meet and attract them WITH social proof from her very own peergroup. Group Approach Theory (GAT - created by me) improves your options and increases the chances for attraction DRAMATICALLY over Single Approach Theory (SAT).
The guys who are GREAT in this game KNOW that they can improve their game ten-fold through seminars and personal coaching in-field workshops. Think about this: Why did so many of the greats who use my GAT (Style, Tyler D., MTL_PUA, and others) take my seminars and workshops? What started them off to greatness in this game? Can you see the co-relation may in fact be a causation?
If you have NEVER taken a seminar or workshop before, it's time to finally reconsider. They are life-transforming. I have conducted dozens of them. I am currently conducting a bootcamp and will accept only 5 people. Workshops and seminars were for many of the greats THE difference between great success and failure. If you are ready, give me a call and sign up. If you have any questions, give me a shout at 323-219-8696 (Mystery) because email sucks, or visit http://www.mysterymethod.com/"> http://www.Mysterymethod.com and email me your #. We need to talk. Man to man.
NEW: Attraction Magic
Content: In the Attraction Magic Seminar, Mystery will teach you the magical illusions most useful in picking up women. In addition to rune casting and sleight of hand, he will teach you to vanish coins, rings, jewelry and other small objects. You will also be taught how to move objects without touching them and how to "read" minds. As I'm sure you can imagine, magic is a superb DHV. Captivating and impressing an entire group of people goes a long way in raising your social value in the eyes of women. If there is one thing that Mystery knows more about than women, it is magic.
http://www.mysterymethod.com/schedule.htm
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DR. PAUL SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT:
We are officially announcing the "Dating and Relationship
Special Forces Training Camp", a seminar with Dr. Paul, the creator of the latest and most powerful technology for dating and relationships. Check the new Blog for the latest news or go to http://http://www.1shoppingcart.com/app/?af=531857/"> http://doctorpaul.net/products.htm .
Have you ever done quite well with sexual attraction but then found yourself dating or even in a relationship with someone totally not meant for you? Have you been through a breakup and not learned the three core lessons that MUST be pulled from the wreckage? Have you ever wondered where dating ends and (gulp) real love begins? Has your dating life helped or hurt your career? Your non-dating relationships? This is the SPECIAL FORCES TRAINING CAMP for DATING and RELATIONSHIPS.
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The new technology (DatingOS) Dr. Paul is unleashing on the world completely explains what your hangups are, not only in "hooking up" or "approaching," but through the dating process and deep into relationships. This doesn't exist anywhere else, nor will it, because Dr Paul has gone through twenty years of both psychiatric clinical training, seen 15,000 patients with problems of both a "dating" nature, AND comprehensively solves deep problems that people have with sexual attraction, commitment, marriage, breakups, relationships, trauma, depression, anxiety disorders, ADD, OCD, career complications, cheating and betrayal.
If you want permanent RESULTS, you may need some real science, and the same fun time you have at other seminars of course, with more mastery of ALL psychology of dating—INNER GAME, OUTER GAME, and never before seen PROFILING of women for perfect fit to your personality.
So far, DatingOS has only been available in person, at seminars (the next one is coming up June 16 - 18 in Chicago) in the heart of the city of SINGLES, in summertime after a bitter winter has all females in a frenzy of cabin fever.
Join us by contacting shauna@http://www.1shoppingcart.com/app/?af=531857 or see the announcement on http://doctorpaul.net/products.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Derek Vitalio:
Seduction Science Coming To Montreal & Toronto
Seduction Science Live In-Field Workshops!
The fact is, only by MODELING the very best can you achieve the very best. In a Seduction Science workshop, you'll meet and train with master coach McMaax who will take you to unique hot spots all over a particular city for meeting the most attractive, beautiful women. Your coach will demonstrate their skills and explain, teach, and show you how to interact with women at a club and on the street.
With a coach, you'll find an immediate shift in your skills and understanding with women as you see what it takes demoed live and right in front of you. And there's no reason to take the long and hard path or reinvent the wheel. After making hundreds of approaches, we've learned what works and what doesn't. We'll show you exactly how it's done and save you months, if not years of time.
You'll never have to go back to feeling lonely or lost and live passionately once again. Reserve your place as soon as possible (placing is limited!) so that you're guaranteed a spot.
For more information on the full workshop schedule visit: http://www.seductionscience.com/workshops
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Swinggcat has published a new ebook which you can check out at his website at http://www.realworldseduction.com. Those of you who remember his outstanding posts here will be anxious to get this as soon as possible. Highly recommended.
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Ross Jeffries Speed Seduction Seminars (http://www.speedseduction.net/)
Advanced Speed Seduction® Seminars - All Seminars Updated!
Look for more details soon, or call Dr. Yates at 903-482-1034. Price is $1,195. This seminar is ONLY open to those who own a Speed Seduction Home Study Course so you better hop on line and buy one now if you don't already have one and plan on attending.
Speed Seduction Seminars
Schedule 2006
Location Dates
London, England September 15, 16, 17
Speed Life Seminars
Schedule 2006
Location Dates
Hawaii (Location - Tentative) October 22 thru 26
Magick / Psychic Influence Seminars
Schedule 2006
Location Dates
London, England Sept 8, 9, 10
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Major Mark (http://www.trucor.com):
Send mail to Cassi@trucor.com with questions or comments about his seminars.
Call to register: 419 882-8543 or go to http://www.trucor.com
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Double Your Dating LIVE! NEW Seminar! We will be reviewing all of the new DYD products here soon, including the monthly interview series in which David DeAngelo interviews "Dating Gurus".
You can order all your DYD products and register for seminars through this link: http://www.doubleyourdating.com/cl
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Threesomes! The Secrets To Making Your Fantasy A Reality
A home study course by David Shade http://www.masterful-lover.com/3somes.html
If you are like most men, you have had a fantasy about a threesome with 2 hot bi-sexual women. Everything you could possibly need to know about how to have threesomes is in this special information packed course.
The FIRST And ONLY, step-by-step guide written for men, featuring Pickup Artists and couples who are actually having threesomes all the time.
I GUARANTEE you that you've NEVER been exposed to, or had real Threesomes explained to you in the way I've done it here in this course!
It doesn't matter if you are in a relationship currently or not, every situation is covered here...
- The 3 scenarios to make a threesome happen (pick the one that works BEST for you)
- How to have threesomes as part of a committed relationship (and have it bring you closer together)
- The real truth about women and bisexuality (This will SURPRISE you)
- Proven methods to deal with your woman if she is on the fence about having a threesome. (You will have her begging you to make it happen)
- 4 vital things you MUST know about bisexual women (if you want to be successful having threesomes)
- How you can tell if a women is bi-sexual or not. (It's not what you think)
- The single biggest obstacle most women have to doing a threesome with their man. (when you can deal with this, the rest is easy)
- The foolproof way to bring up the subject of threesomes when you
have been with a woman for a long time. (This one is so powerful I almost didn't release it)
- The one thing you can say that shows a bisexual woman you are NOT like all the other guys (Do this and they might even fall in LOVE with you)
- Also, actual field reports of David & his girlfriend picking up bisexual women
- And much, much more...
The bottom line is that by learning how to have threesomes... YOU can live life fully and enjoy being a sensual person through expression of healthy sexuality in a mutually beneficial way.
Free samples of the course video online, check it out at http://www.masterful-lover.com/3somes.html
The classic 'David Shade Manual' goes online
You've done all the hard work, found the HB, attracted her, managed to get her back to your place, now you need to skills in the bedroom if
you want to keep the attraction going. Being able to give her the sexual experience of her life is the final tool in the seducer's
toolkit, so make sure you make the most of this opportunity. David Shade, as you are no doubt aware, is well known in the seduction
community as the master of bedmanship skills.
His masterpiece the 'David Shade Masterful Lover Manual' is now available for the first time online at http://www.alphalover.com/cmd.php?ad=145730"> http://www.alphalover.com . Highly
recommended, it is possibly the only book on the subject you will ever need. Compulsory reading.
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"The Seduction End-Game"
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Payton Kane's Seduce and Conquer (http://www.seduceandconquer.com/seducewomen) CD disks present Payton's unique, dynamic style of meeting and seducing women. His methods are very natural and are the epitome of the original advice you get - tease and take away, play hard to get, etc. Definitely worth checking out, but not for everyone.
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Due to popular demand , Learn from the resident Sexpert How to be Outrageously Successful With the Opposite Sex and How to naturally let the game come to you. An intensive 1 on 1 personalized bootcamp taught to you by the East Coast's #1 Personal Dating Coach and Mentor. For more info go to http://www.youaresoinmyway.com
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NEW PRODUCTS FROM DAVE RIKER
Have you ever wished that Speed Seduction® was taught in a more structured way, piece by piece, subject by subject, in a way that allows you to really
understand it, really KNOW it and really USE and APPLY it even better than before?
If so, check out http://www.daveriker.com/ssmanual/
Riker's Seduction Log - Live Seminar
If you always wanted to hear more field reports, with full details, and even some recordings, then this seminar is for you. Dave Riker (Ross's co-trainer for those of you who don't know him) spends about 3 hours each evening going through his personal Logs and notes and provides full reports on SARGEs, many from start to close (finish). And that's a full "close" by the way, not just an email address or phone number!
The seminar is held in conjunction with Ross Jeffries Speed Seduction Seminars. Ross's seminar is during the day (and Riker presents at that too) and then Riker does his seminar in the evening. And even if you do not attend Ross's seminar you can still attend Riker's.
For full details see the web page at: http://www.daveriker.com/logseminar/track/cl.htm (site is either inactive or no longer relevant)
Be sure to check out his "Reviews" page on his site. Many guys that have been in the game for a while, and attended a LOT of seminars, were just blown away by Riker's Log seminar.
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Introducing 1 on 1 Badboy workshops:
Badboy is a Croatian PUA from Zagreb who has spent almost 4 years in the game. He is also a respected poster in Mystery's lounge.
To see some of his stuff, search for posts by "croBadboy" on mASF or read one of the recent issues of Cliff's list.
Workshops are 1 on 1 for 3 days.
Each day consists of a 4-hour seminar and 5 hours of active in-field work. Each night you will make 20-30 approaches with your teacher to get field experience. 1 on 1 training makes it possible to answer any questions you might have and cover the most important aspects of the game in detail. Teachings are tailored to your level in the game.
The basic structure of the workshop is:
Day 1:
Social intelligence/emotional intelligence
How to dress, peacocking vs. dressing style
Alpha-male bodylanguage secrets
Attitude (inner-game) and getting a good seductive voice
Difference between emotional and party type girls
Social dynamics in clubs (2sets/3sets/lonewolves), know your city
Openers (sets with males vs. only-girl sets)
Day 2:
Difference between PUing alone and with a wing
Different tools for getting attraction
Power of contrast (bad boy & nice guy in one)
Stealing their frames
Passing sh*t tests
Push-pull
Isolation tactics(2steps)
Day 3:
AMOG tactics (the AMOG handshake, group set AMOG destroyers)
Boyfriend destroyers
Passing LMR
Secrets of good s*ex
How to manage a good relationship
More bodylanguage secrets
How to turn Coffee dates into f*ck-fest in just 1 hour
How to turn a 0$ date into a time she will never forget
Difference between PUing in different places (small towns, big cities, colleges and the difference between certain clubs and the girls who go there)
Badboy says he can write a pages of what he does with guys because it's not just PU. He opens their EYES to LIFE, to understand how to live successfully.
For more info, email Badboy at badboy@playboylifestyle.net. See Badboy's new website: http://www.badboylifestyle.com/"> http://www.badboylifestyle.com
You can book your workshop on: http://www.badboylifestyle.com/?badboy=workshops
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The beauty of The Tao of Dating Transformation Weekend seminar is that Dr. Alex will be leading the exercises, making sure you do them (and throwing some trancework in there to supercharge it). Most people go through an entire lifetime not having done an exercise like this. You don't have to be one of them. Here you can get more info about all that will go on at the weekend:
http://www.thetaoofdating.com/liveseminar.com The Tao of Dating Transformation Weekend is about taking that cosmic mallet to your own head and figuring this stuff out for yourself. Not because *Dr. Alex* is saying it's right, but because you're feeling it in your bones and it feels right *for you*. Your brain will figure out which it likes better -- the carrying around of past injury like a dead weight, or the lightness and ease of letting go. And the millisecond it figures out which one is more fun, it will never go back.
Like when you find a shortcut and never go the long way again.
Come join us in LA if you can. Seats are going fast, and Dr. Alex would like to see you there. It's going to be lots of fun.
The power is within you, Dr Alex.
You can write Dr. Alex at dralex@thetaoofdating.com
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Thundercat's New "Seduction Lair"
Get the latest News, Rumors, Tips, Tricks, & Analysis on the Pick-Up and Seduction community! The site is updated daily with lots of free and exclusive content.
Also a good way to keep up with things without having to navigate mASF. Drop By TSL today! http://www.seductionlair.com/
The Art of Approaching: Learn to meet ANY woman, ANY time, ANY where. The most difficult hurdle for most men to overcome is that of the initial Approach. This comprehensive eBook gives you over 35 unique Openers, as well as a step-by-step roadmap to help overcome your fear of approaching forever!
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Lance Mason ("Sensei") & Wilder Pick-Up 101 ( www.pickup101.com ):
More than just workshops, PickUp 101 provides focused programs that begin weeks before you arrive with our home study materials, our 3-day skills intensive & field work training, and lasts long after you leave with follow up coaching calls and access to the PickUp 101 private forums.
PickUp 101 provides you 'warp-speed' training in a sequenced progression to take you from complete newbie to getting laid like a rock star with our proven step-by-step programs.
In our current programs you will learn the latest in:
- Attraction Skills
- Night Club Game
- Day Time Game
- Direct AND Indirect Methods of Approach
- Deep Rapport Skills
- Effective Day-2 Seduction Tactics
- Dressing For Your Pickup Artist Identity
- Multiple Relationship Management
- Advanced Pickup Tactics
- And much more...
Our programs are structured to build on each other and NEVER repeat material.
Our instructors stay on the cutting edge of what works, and we won't lock you into any one way of doing pickup. We find what works BEST FOR YOU, and provide you with all the training and coaching you need to succeed.
We also provide monthly free seminars in San Francisco, and free distance learning teleseminars.
Call us toll free for more information.
PickUp 101
1459 Powell Street
San Francisco, CA
1-877-PICKUP-9 (toll free)
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New street seduction CD course from Croatia
mr.ice - Croatian seduction master finally released his seduction audio
CD "Streetmode".
Backed by 5 years of extensive research it contains step-by-step directions on how to seduce girls in normal - everyday environment.
Each part uses structured approach i.e. you are given an introduction that describes specifics of each seduction environment together with steps that are neccesary for you to feel comfortable before you start with the seduction.
You are then guided through the seduction process - from intial approach to conversation and later to kissing and having sex with a girl.
for more information: http://streetmode.atspace.com
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Trevor Emdon got the T shirt on being dumped! But he also happens to be an NLP practitioner and a personal development coach and writer, so he was darned if he was going to be defeated by a little thing like being twice divorced and having more "ex’s" in his little black book than any self respecting man should have!
He set about figuring out a way of turning life around. And he began where it hurt the most – with the uncomfortable probability that since HE was the common denominator in all his relationships, maybe it was him that needed to change! Uncomfortable … only to a point, because then he realised something VERY exciting…
If HE was the one that needed to change, then HE was in control of his own romantic destiny! And so are YOU!
That single thought sparked a revolution in his thinking, and led him to devise the powerful program in the pages of the ebook you could be putting to use in your life just minutes from now!
"How To Conquer Your Fear of Rejection & Start Dating Again!" packs a powerful punch. And at $9.99 it’s the best value antidote to a broken heart or plain old fear of rejection.
It will restore your faith in Love, Life, Sex and Romance! http://www.wizardofwisdom.com/conquerrejection.htm
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Archangel:
I've got something I think you & your readers would be interested in.
It's called NLP PLUS and you can see it here: http://nlp-plus.com/"> http://nlp-plus.com The entire system is based upon Breath, Body, Mind, Motion. It's a system of Confidence and Persuasion, and is meant to be easy to use with little memorization.
There's a demo lesson here: http://nlp-plus.com/Demo/ConfidenceDemo.asp
The Rapport structure is here:
http://nlp-plus.com/Demo/rapport.htm
The rapport structure is very simple, and extremely effective. All you have to do is the BBMM structure to gain rapport with someone.
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Juggler is back!
Charisma Sciences, led by longtime seduction authority Juggler, focuses on developing a man's natural game. Our clients usually
- aren't connecting with women despite all efforts,
- are sick of using routines and material that isn't their own,
- want to understand vibing skills that will work in *any* situation.
We are now limiting the size of our events to four students with two to three instructors (including Juggler, of course), because we're not just giving a guy some lines and throwing him out there. We get to know our clients and teach them social vibing techniques, based on their own personality traits, that apply to women, men and groups.
There's just no other way to prepare a guy for the breadth of interactions he's going to face in his life, seductive or otherwise.
It's the difference between flash game and solid game. We don't teach men how to impress their friends and thirty other people with some jokes or tricks - we teach them how to consistently get numbers that will not flake, and closes that aren't forced - by building a solid foundation for every interaction.
Our Charm School bootcamp runs Friday to Sunday in Ann Arbor, MI and
other cities worldwide. To learn more about what we teach, you should check out our website, where we have free weblogs, podcasts, compiled articles, and the three-year-in-the-making Juggler eBook. See http://charismaarts.com/. Looks very interesting!
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Joe Flow:
I'm starting a new coaching program designed to speed the process of overcoming social fears and self imposed limitations. So many guys out there, and in the community in particular have a lot of bad habits and childhood mannerisms that they carry on to their adult life. These come from unconscious beliefs and memories that run their lives. I believe working to improve these issues should be tackled from both sides. On the one hand, I'm going to talk to guys about their belief system and self images. On the other, I'll comment on different things that they do, like body language, voice inflections, and facial expressions that betray these beliefs. I believe that is the best way to bring these hidden beliefs up to the surface which is the most important and most difficult step on the way to dealing with them.
My program is going to be very cheap for the time being, at least until I get some good testimonials to back me up. Since this is coaching and not a "weekend of partying", you have to live in or close to Manhattan. I'm going to have one hour long meetings in which we talk, walk around, do basic communication exercises, and later on, approach and talk to women ("day game"). After every meeting, you will get a few simple, or not so simple body language and mental exercises and "missions" that you will have to carry out before the next time we meet, in addition to new things to keep in mind about how you come across and communicate and about what goes on in your head.
If you are interested, email me at free2bu@fastmail.fm, and I will send you a short questionnaire to find out whether or not I think I can help you. If yes, the first meeting will be FREE, and no commitment on your part will be required. After that, for the time being, every meeting will cost $50. I make no flashy promises. I'm aiming for a PROCESS, not a magic bullet.
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Giuseppe Notte:
http://www.seduction-and-dating.com/seduction/ - Giuseppe Notte's ALL ABOUT WOMEN: The Encyclopedia Of Seduction EOS is a new product covering the topic of seduction from A to Z. This 100 pages e-book is ideal both for newbies and more experienced guys willing to improve weaker points of their game. The book is split into 6 bigger parts:
1. Being a woman Learn how women think and understand the "logic" behind their actions.
2. How to be the Man Part two is about the attitude. You can attract women just with your presence, by becoming a "real Man". Avoid the most common mistakes men make and learn valuable tips on body language, dressing and improving the overall quality of your life.
3. The first step: meeting girls Overcome your fear of approaching women and open girls anytime, anywhere without excuses. With the powerful techniques in the book, you won't have to memorize any "canned" routines or NLP patterns.
4. Second step: from the first date to having sex Get from the first date to the girl's bed easily. Don't be stressed anymore on when and how to kiss your girl or where to take her. You will learn step-by-step instructions for each phase.
5. Third step: keeping a relationship The secrets of keeping a long, rewarding relationship, or multiple relationships at the same time. You choose.
6. Sex Overcome your problems, improve your sexual life, become multi-orgasmic and turn into an irresistible lover.
For more information, visit http://www.seduction-and-dating.com/seduction/.
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CEIC: Sickboy and Playboy (Mike and Stephen from the DYD interview series) have launched "Cutting-Edge Image Consulting" ( http://www.ceimageconsulting.com/"> http://www.ceimageconsulting.com ). They offer exclusive, one-on-one programs in New York City. Also, they offer a 7-Day Audio Program which covers the following topics:
- A groundbreaking 3 point structure that serves as a roadmap to any successful interaction.
- The two most powerful qualities women are drawn to, and how you can learn to use them with shocking effect
- We go over the subtleties of female psychology and why it is absolutely necessary to do THREE things when meeting a new woman…do you know what they are?
- We disclose the secret of "hooking" - what it means and how to do it with shocking efficiency.
- We uncover a key language skill that can build fascination in any woman, ANYTIME. This skill is critical when building connections, which lead into relationships.
- Devastatingly effective conversational openers and lines.
- How to bait ANY woman into a conversation so that within minutes she is dying to know YOU.
- We list the EXACT places to go where you can meet women with the greatest probability of success. Stop wasting your time in the wrong venues for YOU.
- We teach you how to be the center of attention and the life of the party within SECONDS of meeting complete strangers.
- Learn which conversational topics are fascinating to women. Never be boring again.
- We provide a clear definition of relationships, and why some work and some don't. We give you clear-cut ways to improve all of your relationships TODAY.
- There are three different ways to engage women in conversation when you are socializing. These three are based on the three different environments that exist socially. Do you know what they are? We teach you on Day II of the program.
- We teach you the FASTEST way to begin conversations in ANY environment.
- Learn how to counter the most common rejection phrases from women - NEVER be shot down again.
- We outline the aspects of a successful mindset, and we then lead you through a clear and concise exercise to attain that attitude for yourself.
- MASTER the art of flirting.
- We instantly improve your body language and tonality with simple, clear advice never heard anywhere before.
- We give you a SIMPLE way to ALWAYS be relaxed and comfortable before approaching and engaging women in conversation.
- We have an entire CD which guides you through a step-by-step process for creating a timeline that helps you get back on track in EVERY area of your life. We have a solid system for bringing you in touch with what success means to you, and then developing a timeline - a plan - for success. Our aim is to help your dreams become a reality.
Check out their website today at: http://www.ceimageconsulting.com/"> http://www.ceimageconsulting.com
Here are some recent seminar testimonials for CEIC.
In short, our work focuses on a man’s "image", meaning his
presentation not only in style and fashion, but also in word and
energy (vibe). The latter are far more challenging and compelling
to me. The greatest hurdles to success is our INTERNAL
framework of images of ourselves and others. I prescribe no
shortcuts to success, but I do outline a fairly rigorous and demanding
practice for guys to rewire these beliefs in order to be empowering
and healthy. We DO cover the essentials on approaching, flirting,
teasing, storytelling, frame control etc – we have streamlined this
discussion to only include the imperatives. Our belief is that without
a very solid understanding of female/male energy dynamic and
psychology – stemming from years of evolutionary research and study –
a guy stands very little chance of REAL understanding which can lead
to healthy, sustainable relationships.
In other words, time to step into the REAL fire…
I’ll let the students take it from here. Here are views from two guys who
attended the December program:
"Imagine this: you're a regular guy... maybe late 20s, 30s, or even
40s. You're smart enough but you're not Einstein. Neither are you
Tom Cruise, but you also see guys who are no smarter, richer, or
better looking having an easier time with women. Maybe you're someone
who really wants a monogamous relationship with a woman, but you
don't want to just "settle." You want someone terrific, a woman who
"gets you," who you think is really sexy and, just as important,
finds you really sexy. You want to be able to spark the desire that
serves you, and inspires other people. Or maybe you're someone who
thinks you'd like multiple relationships, but while you can imagine
it, making it happen is as elusive as water in the desert. Well, it
strikes me that Stephen and Michael are teaching skills that are
relevant, memorable, and easy to use, rather than asking you to
memorize series of monologues or even gestures,
Without giving away their secrets, let's just say that you walk in on
Saturday. You're curious, a bit nervous, and also just wondering what
you'll gain. You walk out on Sunday with one over-riding sense.
Excitement. Because you have a tool set that is easy to put into
action. That skill set is not based on changing yourself. It's based
on tapping into who you are as a man. It leverages your own
experiences, stories, and inclinations. You work on creating a vision
of the type of women you genuinely desire, and also the type of man
you want to be in the world. In a sense, these guys collaborate with
you to build your own dream house, helping map out the blueprint to
actually construct it. Only what you're building is not a house. It's
the best aspect of who you are. And it's no dream. It's for real.
Stephen and Michael work through that design and construction process
with you, as coaches as well as teachers.
The process teaches "smarts," but it's smarts about who you are, can
be, and want to purse. They also lead you through a series of
exercizes to put all that into action. Yes, it's challenging. But
it's also a lot of fun. I saw the results immediately that first
night hanging with another member of the class. I have read a bunch
of material from other experts, and can say honestly that these guys
are up to those standards. They're original, doing more than
rehashing what exists, and giving their own perspective in ways that
are relevant and actionable. They're also fun to work with and, as I
mentioned to them from a marketing standpoint, they could be charging
a bunch more for their workshops. It's a great way to propel a guy
forward.
JF
NYC"
Or:
"I'd like to praise Stephen of Cutting Edge Image Consultants for
a great two day seduction workshop last weekend (Dec 10th & 11th)
It was a thoughtful, concise and comprehensive program for meeting
women, having successful first and second dates, and keeping them
interested for the long term.
His approach is very organic. He's developed a way for men to be
genuinely charming all while being their real selves. One of his many
techniques is called Baiting. It's a highly effective tool when approaching
women cold and gets many more positive responses. Baiting allows
you have plenty of interesting things to say to a woman you've never
met before without having to resort to corny pickup lines and rote
exercises. The last half of Sunday was a great education in clothing
and fashion tips and how it can powerfully aid the seduction process.
Going one step further his teachings have a healthy component to it.
They are evocative of David Deida, Michael Meade and Robert Bly
(who are the leading authors about men's issues) and encourage a
man to find and nurture his true masculinity. In fact he believes that
success with women is hinged on a man moving toward his
best self in all areas of his life such as health, finances, spirituality and
relationships. Try just one of his programs and I guarantee he'll be
your favorite seduction coach.
Although the seminar stands on it's own, it was a great complement
to the one-on-one training I'd received two months ago ("Afternoons with Stephen".)
I got a chance to digest more deeply his overall philosophy and techniques."
JC
NYC
We have a page solely devoted to the program where you can read more about it, and sign-up.
Here is the link:
http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/seminar.html
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http://www.songsofseduction.com/"> http://www.songsofseduction.com
A full rock music album created for the purpose of seduction is finally available! These 10 songs have been arranged to create rapport, capture and lead her imagination, start the attraction process, and ultimately GET HER IN THE SACK! State of the art NLP combined with hypnotic but rockin' music leads her through the seduction process for you. Best of all, it looks like a regular pop-rock album and sounds like the best alt rock on the air! The lyrics have been painstakingly written by NLP programmers, and the music was recorded by world-class recording artists, using the latest in persuasion techniques together with rhythmic emotional influence technology.
Get yours today, and get laid tonight!
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http://www.datinghelpformen.com/"> http://www.datinghelpformen.com is a website designed by a guy who at one time had limited success with women. He posts what he learned there, from his mistakes and errors to his successes. They will be dealt with step by step so that you can repeat his achievement without replicating the miscalculations. This site is for beginners but if any of you pros would like to join the site and help out that would be great (and of course in return those of you with products will get great link placement)
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Check out the 'supermarket of seduction' at http://www.seductionpro.com. Lots of interesting products to look into.
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Impact Interaction (http://www.impactinteraction.com) @ London
Angel Caido, RyobI and Lockstock have been running Workshops and Seminars in London since the beginning of the year. The workshops are small in size (trainer : student ratio of 2:1 as max), so students get personal attention on sticking points.
The workshops include:
- Basejump: For approach newbies who need to get internal game and basic attraction skills in gear
- Field Interaction: To perfect your bar/ club and street performance
- Solid Game: Everything good except lots of flakes? Few end results? End to end game sticking points covered…
For more information go to http://www.impactinteraction.com or contact them @ contact@impactinteraction.com.
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FIDENTIA UPDATE:
Fidentia 's partners are taking different paths..
To reach Ranko Magami and Robert T http://us.f608.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=CameronTeone@yahoo.com"> orrey please go to http://www.attractanddate.com/"> http://www.AttractAndDate.com To reach Cameron Teone and Seth Parker please go to http://www.buildattraction.com/"> http://www.buildattraction.com or you can email Cameron at http://us.f608.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=CameronTeone@yahoo.com"> CameronTeone@yahoo.com
Ranko:
Destroy Fears from Approach to Relationships, FREE DOWNLOAD on http://www.AttractAndDate.com
In my business I met many guys that managed to change themselves from losers to winners with women. Or many that were already successful but couldn't approach in a club. Or many that couldn't talk to any women but are now happy dating.
Since each one of them has defeated excuses and has an interesting story with missions or exercises that helped him, I got an idea to interview them so they can spread their knowledge. They are all NORMAL people, that work 9 to 5 jobs and have normal lives and look and dress normally.
That is why I think the Attract and Date: Destroy Fears from Approach to Relationship series is a very interesting one, unlike any other product, and one that can help many men.
The first interview is offered as a FREE download.
In this interview I talk with Peter. Peter was on a Prague workshop which was covered by a big European newspaper in a long article. Everything he says is FOR REAL, and that's what we need: REAL MEN having REAL SUCCESS. Peter is no ordinary guy, in one year he managed to have women from 15 different countries in his bed but he could get only the women that approached him; he never approached women that he didn't know.
So remember he is 37 years old and he had never approached a girl that he likes, and only spoke to the ones that stared at him or if he was introduced.
He talks about things that helped him destroy his fears. This is a combination of attract and date teachings and his own discoveries and experiences.
In the interview, we try to focus on his own discoveries cause people will never have heard of them before.
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Flirting Weekend London -
Learn how to develop immense pulling power in every aspect of your life!
"Flirting isn't just about impressing the opposite sex and picking up a partner, it's about getting on with people", says Peta Heskell, the founder of Britain's only Flirting Academy. "Great flirts do it with everyone -flirt that is!" Flirting is a way of interacting with people that makes it fun and easy to connect with them and makes them want to be with you. Become super sexy, develop your conversation power, boost your confidence, courage and self esteem and find out how to approach strangers and feel good. You may be looking for love, want to make more friends or improve the way you interact with people in general.
Flirt with life. Flirt for love. Flirt for fun. Flirt for success.
Please call 02476 541 164 and speak to Gerry and Jenn who will be happy to answer any questions and take your bookings ;-))
For more information about the Flirting Weekend, contact LifeTalks - tel. 0117 973 1010, email info@lifetalks.co.uk or visit http://www.lifetalks.co.uk/"> http://www.lifetalks.co.uk For more information about the Flirting Weekend in London and other workshops with Peta, contact The Attraction Academy tel. 0700 4 354 784 or
visit http://www.attractionacademy.com/
Peta Heskell - Director of Possibility
Flirting and Attraction Academy
Develop immense Pulling Power in all areas of your life
http://www.attractionacademy.com"> http://www.attractionacademy.com
CONTACTS
Tel: 0700 4 354 784
Talk Talk: 0208 979 2994
Tel Intl: + 447770 741 323
Mobile/Cell: 07770 741 323
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Have you ever asked yourself...
* What does it take to make a woman feel totally comfortable making out with me - even if she barely knows me?
* How do I get women to WANT to sleep with me? After all, what good are all those "bedroom techniques" I learned if I don't even know how to get her back to my bedroom in the first place?
* Why do women melt around some guys, but they are totally unresponsive to me? What do they have that I don't?
Wouldn't it be nice if you knew a guaranteed way to "get physical" with any woman you go out with? Have you ever been on a date with a woman, and wondered *how* you can start "making out" with her? (by making out, I mean kissing, hugging, holding hands, etc.)
Jason King has just released a not new report that will teach you everything you need to know about getting *close* to a woman on a date.
Jason is an absolute master at making out with a woman on the first date. Whenever he goes out with a woman, he seems to put them under some kind of "love spell", and they want to make out with him more and more as the date progresses. By the end of the date, the women usually invent all kinds of excuses to invite him back to their place.
There is NO other person out there who is teaching these skills. If you've ever wanted to learn how to make out with a woman on the FIRST date... not weeks or months later... you MUST check out his site.
http://www.MakeoutMastery.com/
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Step by Step Threesomes
Hey, check out Suzy Bauer's site and her e-book (we need a review, so someone get this and let us know what you think) about creating threesomes. Suzy is an attractive married bi-sexual woman who says that her e-book will show you what to do to create threesomes, how to overcome resistance and how no one can tell you how to do this better than a woman. http://www.stepbystepthreesome.com/
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"Seduction Tips-Seduce the woman for you today"
http://www.pmmarketing.org/seductiontips.htm
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Maximillian Hell:
I have a PU journal up on livejournal. Right now it's mostly just a record of my sarges--but comments are welcome.
http://www.livejournal.com/users/maximillianhell
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Visit these sites (and give me your comments on their products):
http://www.sexualrapportmodeling.com/jump.php?a=2350 (site is either inactive or no longer relevant)
http://www.seductionformula.com
http://www.thejamesmethod.com/
http://www.SeductionGuide.net/
http://www.sensualitysecrets.com/
http://www.datinghelpformen.com/"> http://www.datinghelpformen.com http://www.lady-killing.com
Gunwitch has also entered the commercial game. Go to: http://www.dynamicsexlife.com/
http://www.sexgodsecrets.com/get.php
Someone needs to check this site and its products out also: http://www.mensniche.com (site is either inactive or no longer relevant) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Return of The Bishop
After a 4 year absence, Bishop is back with his latest seduction product called, "The Fire of Seduction."
Now, no matter who you are, there is way to be NATURALLY seductive around women! There is a way to move past whatever has ever stood in your way! There is a way to at last get the kind of seduction success that has so far eluded you. That way, is "The Fire of Seduction."
In fact, Bishop is SO confident about his latest creation, he's giving a FULL YEAR MONEY BACK GUARANTEE!! You have everything to gain!
Here's just a sample of what awaits you:
* The Four Horsemen of Seduction -
Finally! The simple 4-step process that makes ALL seduction work!
* 'Phanting -
This strangely named chapter AT LAST reveals how to tell what kind of woman you're approaching, BEFORE YOU EVEN SAY A WORD TO HER!
* Advertising to Women -
Learn what advertisers have spent BILLIONS on to influence women, and how YOU can use it in seduction!
* Detached Presence -
Simply put, it's how to be miles away and STILL have her suddenly think about you, as if you're in the room with her!
* Tests, Games, and Positioning for Power -
The "behind her walls" secrets on the things she is trying to test you on, and you likely never even knew it! (Plus, how to use it right back on her!)
* The Positive Side of "Let's Just Be Friends" -
How being "just friends" can actually ACCELERATE your seduction success!
* Thinking Differently -
This chapter takes some commonly held beliefs about what it takes to seduce women, and shatters it!
There is so much more that awaits you, in this 330 page e-book, with nearly 7 HOURS OF AUDIO FILES!
And remember, there is a FULL YEAR MONEY BACK GUARANTEE, so you have every reason to BUY RIGHT NOW!
Bishop's new site can be visited by going here: http://www.new-alpha.com (site is either inactive or no longer relevant)
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Daniel:
If you are looking for a wing and you are a guy from Romania, you can check on our forums at http://www.seductierapida.ro/forum and you might find one.
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A few sites to check out:
Mike PilinskI is the author of "Without Embarrassment: The Social Coward's Totally Fearless Seduction System"... a unique method of meeting girls that will have you making up for wasted time spent living in shy-guy hell from the very first moment you test it out. Check it Out Here => http://www.highstatusmale.com/.
David Wygant (http://www.whatsyourexcuse.com & http://www.mydatingagent.com).
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Erick Kand has a new website that showcases Hypnosis Stage Shows for fun and entertainment: http://www.HypnosisEvents.com
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The Foundations of Seduction
Hi, you know something? When it comes to seductionhey, when it comes to ANYTHING--how you feel has a huge impact on the results you get. But the way you feel doesn’t have to be determined by your surroundings, your expectations, others’ behavior, or the tides and stars. You can guide your own feelings. By doing so, you can adjust and enhance your results. You can replace frustration with the satisfaction of tangy, blood-red, salty-sweet resolve. When you can change the way you feel, you can change what you experience… and what you encounter… and then the world stands revealed as something you yourself partially create. Sometimes, to begin claiming the victories you deserve, all you need is a simple little tool: a way of channeling your own emotions. A way of tapping your inner fire. A way of taking that inner fire, and letting it melt your external obstacles. A way of changing all that you feel, about all that you experience. Of course, you may not need or want such a tool. For some, the ability to guide and drive one’s own emotional experience is pretty basic stuff. Some people shrug off rejection, feel wonderful almost all the time, and easily attain their goals. If that’s true for you, and you don’t think you can add to your abilitywell, you may be right. In that case, my new CD may not be for you. On the other hand, should you want a tool meant to ease the transition to seductive success… to productive success… to any kind of success, maybe this new CD can be of use to you. It’s called "Foundations of Seduction". You can get it for $29.97 plus $5 Priority Mail s/h, by going here: http://www.sexualkey.com/ Just enter "$34.97" into the FlexPay box and then email me at info@sexualkey.com with your shipping address and a note that you’ve ordered "Foundations of Seduction". If you’re outside the U.S., please add an additional $5 for shipping. Have fun! JD http://www.sexualkey.com/
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"FREEDOM WITH WOMEN" SEMINAR DATES
Ron Louis and David Copeland have been doing several boot camp style one-on-one courses.
Contact Ron Louis: ronl@howtosucceedwithwomen.com or contact davidc@howtosucceedwithwomen.com
To find out more about the "Freedom with Women" seminar, go to http://www.howtosucceedwithwomen.com/workshops/fww5.html
HOW TO SUCCEED WITH WOMEN Ron Louis and David Copeland have their Mastery Program Tape series available. It has some very good stuff on it and that, in combination with other pieces that you can pick up here and from the other products mentioned can be a help. For those who are just starting out learning how to deal with women, this is an excellent basic daily course to take you through the process of dealing with women. For those who are more advanced, you should pick up a few good ideas from this set of tapes. http://howtosucceedwithwomen.com/
1. You can receive a series of audio programs from the "Freedom With Women" seminar. This audio is not available anywhere else!
2. You'll get valuable email summations of these audio programs to "lock in" the learning and help you take action.
3. You'l get other special email lessons from the "Freedom with Women" seminar, all about finally having real freedom with the women you desire.
To get the free course, go to http://www.howtosucceedwithwomen.com/workshops/free-audio.html
Ron & David have announced a new seminar: The dates are Saturday June 17th and Sunday June 18th from 12:00 pm to 8 pm. The location will be in NYC, in the Times Square area.
For more info, get in touch with them through their site, http://howtosucceedwithwomen.com/
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Advanced Macking:
In case you want a step by step guide on how to get into one-night stands, check out Anthony Berger's Advanced Macking manual. What makes it unique is that it is engineered towards making it happen the same night you meet them. To learn how to persuade women back to your pad, check out his site: http://www.advancedmacking.com/Discount.htm
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Michael:
If you want to improve both your pick up game and your understanding of women on a deeper level, you've got to come out to my Dating Wizard Live Seminars in Toronto. It is two FULL days of non-stop IMMERSION - including a live pick-up component - giving you a whopping,eye-opening insight into how to be successful with women on a whole new level.
There are also awesome guest speakers at these seminar:
To learn more about this special seminar, go to:
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And follow the "Seminars" link.
And if you haven't downloaded my eBook, "The Dating Wizard: Secrets to Success with Women", then that's the place to get started.
Inside, I explain step-by-step how to approach women, how to get instant dates, how to get physical, and how to sustain her interest if you desire a relationship. Best of all, you won't have to be a jerk to OUTDO the jerks!
Download it now at:
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FREE HYPNOSIS MINI-TUTORIAL
The UltimateSeduction Yahoo group, at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UltimateSeduction/ is sponsoring a free one-month mini-tutorial on Conversational Hypnosis. This tutorial, presented by the hypnotist Archangel, is sectioned off into five parts:
1. Trance Words
2. Rapport
3. Persuasion Anchoring
4. Pacing, &
5. Leading
Although less than halfway through, members are reporting some highly entertaining, and some startling, success stories. The UltimateSeduction group has the advantage of having more than a few women on-list, enabling members to get some very pointed straight talk on their techniques. There is nothing to memorize - only a handful of very simple, and very effective, techniques. The group is gaining about 200 new members a week and is lightly moderated.
Anyone may join the tutorial at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UltimateSeduction/
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