If you were ever to put that thing on my shoulder

[summary]Who needs routines when you know how to speak directly to a woman's emotions ?[/summary]
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Milachku:

Hey guys... well I'm proud of myself here because this pick up was done under interesting circumstances. Here goes..

I'm on MSN last Tuesday night when a girl whom I tried picking up (which didn't work out) contacted me at night. She wanted to go to Cafe Campus. I had made mistakes trying to seduce her so I decided to turn her into a pivot and friend. So I agree to join her.

We get inside and start people-watching together. I notice a cute girl with her friends and mention it to my pivot. She tells me "Go get her number! 'Was she serious or testing me? Who knows? But I still went and ran my standard opener.

Although there were about 4-5 people in that group, only 2 of the girls heard what I said so I engaged just those 2. This was a mistake as you will see.

As I'm running game on them, things are going quite smoothly when one of the girls who I hadn't talked to yet comes up to me and starts talking shit to me. I tried my best to diffuse it but it just turned into a pissing contest. In the end I shot her down pretty hard with some pretty good lines and walked off.

I'm feeling like crap cuz the reality is that I don't like confrontation like this. I like to make love, not war. So I'm upstairs leaning on the ledge just looking off onto the dance floor below when this petite girl with these full, perky, scrumptious tits (let's call her HBscrumptioustits) stands right next to me. In the past I would have been intimidated by a girl who is showing off her nice chest, but this time I had the game to handle it properly.

I have learned that if a woman is *comfortable* enough to come stand or sit next to you anywhere, especially if she is *alone* and it's *not crowded*, then just assume it's proximity. I just look at her to see what I can work with and notice her necklace that is of a big spider. Now I'm actually scared of spiders so I'm actually gonna go somewhere with the opener I decide to use…

So my opener here was "That's a very nice necklace." What's that? I used a... compliment opener??? Well from what I know, when a woman has herself standing next to a guy waiting to be opened, it's as if she is putting herself on the line. And if I don't open her then she will feel rejected. So I have to reward her good behaviour. Sure enough she tells me thanks with a big smile. Turns out it’s a one of a kind piece so my noticing won me points. I then tell her "I shouldn't be telling you this... but I don't like spiders. And so... if you were ever to put that thing on my shoulder just *before I woke up in the morning* then it would really scare me." She got the hint...

I'm now engaging her in a discussion and whatever she tells me I use that info and run my routines or patterns that would fit in to what she would tell me and mixing in some light C&F. I also ran those IN10SE techs I mentioned in a recent Cliff List email. I get her to tell me about actors she finds attractive, times when she is comfortable with friends and about her ideal romantic getaways. As she is talking about these things I pay attention to her gestures, etc. Then I would repeat back to her what she was saying as well as mirroring her gestures that she put emphasis on.

It gets a little sexual so I tell her that I would rather not talk about sex unless I know that I'm gonna share something with that person. I felt like she was trying to control me with sex here as opposed to genuinely trying to turn me on in order for something to happen - a test basically. She was a bit surprised and now tells me she really likes talking to me as usually she stops talking to people after about 2 - 3 minutes because most people end up boring or annoying her. I took it as a compliment and start initiating kino to which she was very receptive.

It's happened plenty of times where a girl and I will be teasing back and forth (I'm gonna have to spank you for that, etc.) but in the end it didn't go anywhere because the girl simply got her validation out of the sex talk and didn't need for it to escalate anymore. I've talked to Brad P at the last Cliff’s List Convention and he likes to use sexual talk early on in an interaction in order to screen out women, but yet he still maintains his power. So it's still a field where I need to work on...

I do my typical qualifying thing, SOI and comfort building stuff. For qualifying I now follow what Swinggcat says in that I will simply make comments about the things I like in life and in a woman. If she is into you she will agree and will describe herself in the same light. I run the Juggler SOI to make sure she realizes this ain't gonna be platonic. And the comfort stuff is more about easy going stories in my life.

As things are heating up... cue in my pivot! So I introduce my pivot to HBscrumptioustits and they got along. My pivot also whispers something in her ear which I later found out that she told HBscrumptioustits that I'm a great guy. The timing here couldn't have been better. Guys, get yourself a hot pivot or two and follow what Will said at the first Cliff's List Convention.

I ask her who she came with and she tells me she is with... 9 GUYS! A girl came with 9 guys here and I end up picking her up. LOL!

Anyway, at some point I just lean in and start kissing her. Going back and forth from kissing and talking to her. In general you should only go for a kiss in a club after you have done solid game in order to avoid the next day buyer's remorse. I feel that it should also be this way even if you see her BT is thru the roof and the chance for a full close that night is highly probable.

I notice it's really heating up and now I'm worried about buyer's remorse. So I tell her "For some reason, I'm afraid I will never end up seeing you again after tonight. I mean it's like I think you are a really cool person and I can't believe we met at a club of all places! I would like to talk to you again. And don't you find it funny that although we are holding each other and kissing here tonight that the next time we meet we'll often be cold and aloof." She laughed and said she knew exactly what I was talking about. She also told me about her past relationship issues so I also take the time to elicit her values on relationships and reflect back stories from my life that echo what she said as well as repeating back her trance words. Damage control taken care of.

It's closing soon and I offered to take her home as I wanted to see her get home *safely*. I see my pivot also met a guy. So in front of my HB, I tell this guy "You gonna make sure she gets home safe, right?" said in a very serious voice. He stuttered and said yes. I find out later that he was too afraid to try anything on my pivot.. lol. Guess I scared him. I think this looked very alpha in front of my HB.

I bring her home in my car while running some more of my routines. We get to her place and start making out some more. Now the windows of the car are steaming up cuz it's getting so hot in here. And of course being the dog that I am I am trying to push it farther and she is telling me to slow down. I do 2 steps forward, one step back. Again I'm worried about the buyer's remorse and tell her about how I really wanna talk to her again. This is where she gives me one of her little pinky rings to keep until the next time we meet. That gave me alot of relief... We said goodbye and agreed to meet on Friday.

Day 2: She agrees to come over and watch me make dinner. I get her talking while I'm cooking. Eventually I get her to talk about what specifically in her past relationships got her very turned on by her man. I figured I could do this now as enough comfort was built. (Earlier I just asked her to describe her most romantic get-away that turned her on.) What ever she told me I would repeat back to her and while mirroring the specific gestures, head and eye movements. You'd think they'd catch on... but they don't! I would also repeat her trance words and self point. (After I laid her she said that this specific convo we had was one of her favorite times with me.)

We eat, drink and I show her vids on my computer again. The usual stuff I do at my house. I take her to my bed... and this time.. there was LMR... oh yes... there was LMR. Watch the Mystery Method DVDs near the end where he covers LMR tactics. Although I didn't do them perfectly, it still got me to third base but no lay. But the most important thing here was that I maintained my frame control in the end game.  Whatever you decide to do to handle LMR, it should still be congruent to who you are.

We get dressed and I take her to Newtown (a club in Montreal) where Carl Wiuff (Canadian singer coming out with a new album) was performing. There was a big ass line up... but one of the promoters is a best friend of mine so my girl and I got in pretty quick. Not only that, but we got into the VIP section with bottle service along with Carl Wiuff himself. Can you say.. D-H-V??? Lesson here: make friends with high status people like promoters.

I was just in the zone here going natural and not having to run my routines but I do remember one thing. My girl asks "When I'm with a guy, I'm like a nympho. I need sex everyday non stop..." I'm thinking to myself that this is a........ TEST! She's trying to see if A. She can control me and B. She is also worried that because I'm so high value now that she may not be able to keep me. I handled A. by telling her that my life is just too busy to see her everyday but I didn't handle B. properly here despite doing some vulnerability routines earlier. She did ask me how long will I wait to expect sex. I told simply by the third date. She was a bit shocked at that as I said it with a pretty straight and direct facial expression like I meant it.

After the club we go for a drive to the top of Mont-Royal (the mountain in the center of Montreal with a great view)... and AGAIN the LMR. This time she wanted me to finger her to get her off. So I tell her "if I'm gonna get you off with my fingers then you gotta get me off with your mouth.. and swallow." Before she told me she doesn't swallow.... but she did this time! Guys.... frame control! Then she tells me... "Well, I would normally think this was just our first date (implying that our first meet wasn't a date) but that now she might consider it our second thus making our next date our third...."  The next day I send her a message telling her “You rocked my world… and it was without sex. Ok, I'm impressed.” She replies telling me that we have both sexual and non-sexual chemistry.

We texted each other over the next few days. At one point she tells me that she is lingerie shopping and asks whether I want to consider our next date as our 2nd or 3rd. I figure she is trying to tease me here so I tell her that unless the lingerie she has is hot then I will consider it only as our 1st. She tells me that I shouldn't expect to see the lingerie at all the next time we meet. So now I KNOW she is trying to use a bit of sexuality to control me and is trying to see if I'm congruent with what I told her earlier…

I tell her that I already told her that I don't like to be teased that way and that it's the last time I'm gonna tell her this. She replied that she was only kidding around. I responded that it was just a misunderstanding cuz it's hard to know when someone is joking thru text or on messenger. Was I bit harsh? Maybe, but I told her earlier that I'm an emotional person... which means that there will never be boredom.

Before we meet next I reviewed Mystery's LMR tactics. The one I really decided to use was the "You hijacked my brain" routine. Now I don't like using other people's materials word for word but rather like to take the concepts and make something that comes from me, but this routine is very powerful as it really addresses her emotional need relating to her fear of abandonment, as Brother Kermit describes.

We meet and hang out at bar and start chatting a bit, then after we start drinking I ran the hijack routine and it worked like a charm. We bounce to a lounge and chatted some more. Then we just hop back into my car and head back to my place. To my surprise... there was no LMR and also.... she was really WET down there unlike the last 2-3 times I touched her. Hmmm... But this time... I made her BEG for the sex like the little slut that she is. Yeah.. it gets them hot, alright.

Wow... 3 in this month of February as compared to 3 in all the year of 2006. I feel like I'm improving here. And now I think I'm gonna make 2 of these girls (a girl I met in a parking lot and this HBscrumptioustits) as part of my first real MLTR. Better read up on some of that harem management...

p.s. Some of you may have noticed or wondered how was it that this girl actually felt comfortable standing next to me while I was giving off a bad vibe due to the bad interaction I had earlier when at club. So I asked her and she told me... that earlier that night some of those 9 guys she was with tried hitting on her and one tried to kiss her so she really got pissed off and left them. So she was pissed off as well when she came to stand next to me... Guess misery loves company! But, I also figure that despite feeling bad I still walked confidently with my head up, etc.

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Baddvantage:

TALKING TO EMOTIONS

I want to take this opportunity to talk about a concept that is widely overlooked when we talk about communicating with women.  We always are asking for good lines, conversation topics, body posture tips, where to meet women, and a host of other important things. 

But something that often gets forgotten about is something I call “talking to emotions”.  What this means is the particular way in which you develop sentences when talking to women that will make them feel a much more emotional reaction on the inside.  I don't mean WHAT you are talking about, because it could really be anything at all, but it's HOW you talk about it.  You can be talking to a woman, and describe the same event, or story, in a few different ways, and each different way will drastically change the way you make her feel as you are talking to her.

This idea that I am talking about is mostly used when talking to women on-line, because talking on-line gives you time to think about what you are going to say, and how to word it just right, and it also gives her the time to read, and re-read what you wrote at her own pace, letting each different word slowly sink in and pull on her emotional strings.  This concept, however, can and SHOULD be used ANYTIME that you are talking to a woman, whether it is by e-mail, phone, or in person…..even morse code, too.

What I am going to do is share a few excerpts from a story that a friend of mine wrote.  This friend is an excellent writer, not just because of the ideas for the stories, but for the ways they are presented.  I'm going to assume that most men DO NOT naturally speak in tongue in the same fashion that this story is written, so I am going to present a topic, and show you what most normal guys would say to describe it, and then show how my talented writing friend described the same event.

EXAMPLE 1:  “Amanda lay on the bed, sleeping.  Her hair was kinda messy, and it looked pretty hot.”

NOW TRY THIS:  “Amanda’s face looked soft and innocent; a dark strand of hair fell across her face, stark in contrast to her pale skin.”

Essentially, the same information was given in both statements, but I'm sure you can see the difference between the two.  One of them just told you the information, but the other one made it much easier to picture the setting in your mind.  The use of certain words like “soft”, and “dark strand” don't just come naturally to us as we are speaking, or typing (unless you’re a pretty good writer).  What exactly is a “soft face anyway?  Is there such a thing as a “hard face”?  It takes some thinking outside the box to be able to think of those things to say.  Here’s another one:

EXAMPLE 2:  “She had always kind of liked Lynn, anyway, but now that she had showered, put on some new clothes, and had her hair done up nice, she thought she looked great.”

NOW TRY THIS:  “She'd always thought Lynn had been good looking, but she looked even better now, clean and pretty.  Her dark hair shone under the fluorescent lights, making it look soft and shiny.  Amanda had to resist the urge to run her fingers through it.”

The second statement really makes you FEEL what’s going on.  You don't even know what the character looks like, but you can already see in your mind how pretty she looks.  The whole setting just breathes a good vibe….ESPECIALLY to women.  Saying things like “dark hair shone” and “soft and shiny” and “resist the urge to run her fingers through it”….those kinds of lines can make women feel a much higher emotional attachment to the situation, than if you just blandly and basically describe the situation directly.

LAST EXAMPLE:  “They went slow this time, and it was all kisses and moans and soft touches.  Amanda kissed a trail down Lynn’s neck, across her stomach, and then even lower.  Lynn gasped and tangled her fingers in Amanda’s dark brown hair, arching off the bed.  And then the older woman’s fingers were sliding along the inside of Amanda’s thigh, finding their goal and working purposefully.  Amanda groaned into the kiss, and Lynn pressed harder, pushed her fingers in deeper.  They moved together, twisting beneath the white, cotton sheets.”

Now, first of all, I'm not going to even bother TRYING to adapt that situation into how a normal guy would explain it.  I'm sure you can see for yourself WHY that paragraph would invoke a strong emotion inside a woman.  Hell, it invokes a strong emotional reaction out of ME. 

The thing you notice, is how every movement is described in a very sensual and physical manner.  Certain words simply make a story sexier.  “Sliding” is better than “moving”.  “Tangled” is better than “grabbed”.  “Kissed a trail down her neck” is better than “kissed along her neck”.  See what I'm getting at here?  This is the kind of thing you see in women’s romance novels.  Women like romance novels, and now you see why.  They read this kind of language and can actually SEE the women making love.  They can visualize the soft touches and the sliding fingers and the tangling of hair.  And just getting a clear picture of that stuff, while reading or listening to a soothing story, invokes an emotion that most men NEVER are able to get out of a women. 

Now of course, most men are not gifted writers.  And I don't expect every guy to instantly transform into Don Juan overnight.  But if you even thumb through a romance novel, just to see examples of this kind of writing, you will get a better idea of how to speak to women in a way that will spark her emotions.  This is a GREAT advantage to have, because you could be talking about something that does not involve you AT ALL, but if you are able to use words and describe things in a way that will make her imagine them in a deep, sensual way, she will have a great feeling while listening to you talk. 

Emotion is a drug, and like other drugs, it is addicting.  If you experience an emotion you enjoy, while you are doing something….you are going to do that something again, to experience the emotion again.  She will want to be in your presence now, more and more, if for no other reason than the fact that you sparked an awesome thing inside of her with your ability to tell a story.  Obviously you aren't going to meet a woman in a coffee shop and start talking about women making love on a bed (or maybe you will), but this concept can really be applied to ANYTHING you are talking about. 

Go ahead and read a few stories, just to get a grasp of the kinds of words to use.  There are also some PUA out there who specialize in this topic, primarily applying it to meeting women on the Internet.  Imagine a woman e-mails you and asks you what you do, and you reply by describing your job in a manner somewhat like the one I just showed you.  It is HIGHLY likely that she will want to meet you after she reads that.  First of all, most men don't know how to communicate in that sexually appetizing style.  And secondly, she is thinking that if you know how to TALK in a sensual, sexually attractive way, that you probably also know how to ACT in a sensual, sexually attractive way.

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Scot McKay, X & Y Communications (http://www.thechickwhisperer.com): 
HOW MEN AND WOMEN TRY TO TRICK EACH OTHER

What is the most infamous male stereotype when it comes to dating? Certainly the one about men trying every
trick in the book to get a woman to sleep with him has to head the list. No need to elaborate.

The truth is, however, that men don't necessarily have the market cornered when it comes to keeping their
intentions under the table. Women are quite capable of their fair share. My belief is that the most common
brand of dating trickery proffered by women tends to fly under the radar a bit easier, however, and therefore is
hardly ever (if at all) called out. Since women are a bit more subtle about all of this, I'm going to focus
the majority of this post on understanding their side of the equation. After all, male trickery is altogether
too obvious...which continues to amaze me at how often women fall for it.

So what about the women? What do I mean?

Here it is. Just like men try to trick women into sleeping with them as early as possible in the
relationship, women tend to try to trick men into exclusive commitment way to early.

It’s absolutely true.

And a woman has the ability to equip herself with a formidable set of tools when it comes to this stuff.
Just like a woman can find herself in a man’s bed and wonder how she got there, a man can very easily find
himself in an exclusive relationship he may not have been ready for--and with a woman who may not even have
been his first choice!

How does she do this? Here are some examples of the tactics involved:

1) The Ultimatum

This is the most objective approach. If a woman knows the man is interested, she will simply level an
ultimatum. This may happen as soon as the woman realizes the man wants her sexually. In this case, the
woman pulls every option off the table other than committing to her or walking away. This is unfair, of
course, because it plays on a man’s physical attraction in order to drive emotional involvement.

2) Extended Planning

She'll buy tickets for a concert that’s a month away. She'll invite him to join her for some killer party
that’s a few weeks (or months?) off. If she can get him to make some financial “buy in” (e.g. ticket price,
renting a tux, etc.) then he'll be more likely to stay around. In fact, the concept of commitment based on
financial involvement is a well-known marketing principle. Here, as in so many facets of dating, sales
tactics translate directly into relationship strategy. Watch for a future newsletter (or how about a podcast?)
on that one.

3) Common Secondary Commitments

This is something like “Extended Planning”, but with a subtle difference. Here we are talking about ongoing
partnerships rather than one-time events. She may sign them both up for six weeks of salsa lessons. They may
join a dinner party group with other couples knowing that it would be a major embarrassment to have to sever ties
in the event of a breakup. If she’s really astute, she'll buy them season tickets for his favorite team...
nice.

4) Marking Territory

As soon as a man invites a woman into his private domain, he opens himself up to the female ritual of “territory
marking”. If she’s hanging out at his house and riding in his car, bear in mind the possibility that she may be
interested in staking her claim to those places vis-à-vis other women in his life. Most of us know about the
“perfume on the pillow” trick, where a woman sprays her perfume on a guy’s pillow so he can “think of her” when
he’s sleeping. But that’s just one of a myriad of ways that a woman can make it improbable, if not impossible,
that another woman would feel comfortable in his home or car.

She can leave a change of clothes on his dresser, "just in case". She can change shoes in his car and “accidentally”
leave them behind the passenger’s seat in the back. She can smear makeup in places he may not notice but another woman
would be sure to. She can brush her hair in the bathroom, all but making sure strands of her hair land in places where
other women might notice. And my all time favorite - she might “forget” and leave her earrings on the end table in
the living room (or some other place you'll never see until the next time guests are over).

Whatever happens, you can be sure if it’s done right most guys will be potentially horrified to invite other women
over (although they shouldn't be, which is another topic in its own right).

5) Key Introductions

He is introduced to all of her friends. He may even meet her parents, feeling like he’s suffered whiplash given how
sudden it was. She may even--if she’s mastered the tactic--proactively seek to make friends with his friends. This is
a particularly powerful approach that, if successful, means she has all but inextricably woven herself into his life.
If he ever tries to break up with her, imagine the effect of his own friends calling him out telling him how wrong he
is. Any man who has his choice of great women to an advanced degree knows all too well what it's like to have his male
friends encourage him to "settle" for a woman whom most of them would have been happy with. This can get out of hand
all too quickly.

6) Gifts

She may buy the guy something nice. Depending upon the limits of her personal resources, we may be talking about
something really nice. Guys famously tend to use this tactic on women, thinking that they can buy their way into a woman’s
heart. Well, when a guy does something like this it generally backfires. Some women are creeped out by it, some women refuse
nice gifts seeing potential ulterior motives behind them, and others simply take the gifts and offer only a “thank you” in
return.

The interesting part, however, is that a woman who knows how men think with regard to this process can capitalize upon it to
drive commitment from a man. Think about it - a man attempts to barrage a woman with gifts because he thinks it will help earn
her affections. Why does he think like this? Simple. Because it makes sense to the male mind. If a woman realizes this, she
knows she has an angle with which she can get him to commit.

The problem is that although gift-giving works on a man, it’s not for the expected reason. Rather than driving a warm fuzzy
nesting reflex, it just flat-out makes him feel guilty if he dumps her after getting such cool stuff from her. Many of us
as men have been conditioned to be too "nice", and once again it comes back to bite us where it counts.

So what’s the common thread here? Not surprisingly, the end result is likely to be the same for tricksters of both the male
and female persuasion. In either case, if the end goal is reached it’s nothing more than an empty, Pyrrhic victory.

The moral to this story? Save the tricks, be up-front, take things at a mutually-acceptable pace...and have a symmetrical
relationship based on depth and respect rather than guilt or pressure.

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PROMOS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & REVIEWS SECTION
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LAIR SECTION
(Lairs are gatherings of PUA's of differing levels and talents that meet in different cities to discuss their experiences and to work together to improve their success with women).  More Lair Listings can be found at dutchseduction.blogspot.com/ and at http://www.bristollair.com, as well as at http://www.seductionlair.com:

A YAHOO GROUP FOR THOSE RUNNING LAIRS:
If and ONLY if you are running a lair there is now a Yahoo Group for organization ideas for PUA groups. As each lair is different, this group lets us know what other lairs are doing. No seduction related topics are discussed, just organization ideas. To join please email RunningaPUAgroup-subscribe@yahoogroups.com and then email Nightlife at nightlife858@yahoo.com with an intro of who you are and what Lair you are running.  You can also go to: groups.yahoo.com/group/RunningaPUAgroup/

LAIR GROUP
If you run a lair or are considering starting one, join this group to exchange ideas with the rest of the community and keep informed of community activities. http://www.LairList.com  Contact: LairList@LairList.com
Lair List is an official directory of lairs worldwide. The Lair List Foundation is an international nonprofit cooperation of lair owners. LairList.com is completely nonprofit. LairList.com is 100% non-commercial. If you run a lair or are considering starting one, register your lair here lairlist.com/index.php?option=com_comprofiler&task=registers.  Join this group (lounge.lairlist.com/) to exchange ideas with the international lair community. Get the latest seduction news from around the world (http://www.lairlist.com/).

HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE MONTREAL LAIR:
- Lair meetings are scheduled currently once a month on Sundays.  The next Lair meeting will be at 5:00 p.m. on Sunday, March 18th.  For more info on joining the Lair (local only, sorry), email me.  Out of town bros are welcome to drop in to meetings. 

The Lair meetings are very insightful gatherings of guys interested in learning, improving, and helping others to become more successful in their relationships with women.  If you are already in a relationship, and you continue to read these emails, you should realize that there is information here to improve and enhance your existing relationship - not only to create new ones. 

Here is a list of other Lairs around the world (if you know of any others, please let me know):

MONTREAL JUNIOR LAIR FOUNDED!
Montreal Junior Lair: The Montreal X-Lair has been founded to help minors (who are not permitted to join the Montreal Lair until they are 18) get together and communicate. Lair applications would be sent to MontrealXLair@hotmail.com.

NEW FRENCH MONTREAL LAIR FORMED
Good news! Montreal has now a FRENCH Lair! Oui!  Ever wanted to be part of a lair without having to learn another language?
- A lair which would offer you support
- A lair which would allow you to find new wingman
- A lair where you would be able to learn
- A lair where you would be able to share
- A lair which would offer occassions to sarge
- A lair where you would be able to conquer your fear
- A lair which would allow you to become a better PUA 100 times faster
And all that in FRENCH!  Now is your chance! We've just opened our forum located at http://www.seduire.ca , registration are free. You can also apply to become a Montreal VIP which will offer you the possibility to be part of the best French PUA Team in Montreal. We also have a section dedicated to people of Quebec City cause we love you :)   Note that the sooner you become part of our family, the sooner you'll be the person you want to become.
Many of our members are experts in specifics techniques such as Mystery Method, Juggler Method, direct/indirect techniques and know about their stuff. They are the people you want to hang with. As David DeAn gelo too often said: "You want to befriend those people who've got the talent you want to have so you can learnwith them and from them." The forum is located at http://www.seduire.ca.  We hope to see you there soon!

NEW LAIR IN TORONTO

Frank B Kermit's Toronto Seduction Lair
No Minors!  No Hazing Rituals!  No Membership Fees!  No Referral Link 'Click Fees'!  No Forced Paid Workshops to gain access!  No Organized Pirating of Copyright Materials!  No illegal activates nor criminal associations whatsoever!  Fully MODERATED to encourage a 100% RESPECTFUL learning environment!
An Advanced Section for Gurus and Top Guys who have mastered basic game!  Separate sections for Commercial announcements and seduction Discussions!
Seduction Gurus are WELCOMED directly into the Advanced Section!  An Active Free Newbie System designed to bring up skill levels FASTER!
Men's Only Group (confidentiality and privacy assured)!  A Seduction FOCUSED group, no distractions!  http://www.torontolair.ca/

THE TORONTO LAIR
The Toronto Lair is called TSN or Toronto Social.net. Anyone who gets to the homepage at http://www.TorontoSocial.net./ can email the webmaster to get information. If that's not an option, they can call Ike at: 416-628-9973 or his cell at: 416-300-6500.

Vancouver Social Board
A tight and good group of guys from various backgrounds who want to learn how to become better with women. We have two rules 1) this is not a competition, we are here to help each other and 2) you must be willing to try. We go out very regularly and have some skilled guys.
Visit Yahoo Group: groups.yahoo.com/group/vancouversocialboard/ Contact: Docandwriter (docandwriter@shaw.ca)

Victoria Social society
This is an open group for all you Victorian men (Victoria, British Columbia, Canada)who wish the study and pursue the art of seduction.
Visit Yahoo Group:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/victoriasocialsociety/
Contact: Docandwriter (docandwriter@shaw.ca)

Calgary Social Group
This is the Calgary PUA Lair for men (young and old) who want to get together to discuss PU and go sarging in Calgary. This group is meant to enrich the lives of men and, I believe ,women indirectly. Everyone can learn and it's only the lack of support and positive influence that cause people to stop trying. Here we can all grow as men and learn the skills we need to accomplish our goals.
Visit Yahoo Group: groups.yahoo.com/group/calgarysocialgroup/
Contact: Elantraman (elantraman2002@yahoo.com) or Docandwriter (docandwriter@shaw.ca)

NEW BRIGHTON LAIR
Darklight wrote to announce the new Lair which has just been set up in sunny Brighton on the south coast of England.  They are a small group of PUAs hitting up the bars, clubs, street and beaches of Brighton.  People are welcome to join, all styles and skill levels -- so long as they are active in field.  Contact them at uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/brightonpickup/  or at brightonpickup@googlemail.com

IRISH LAIR
The Irish Lair has 211 members and was started December, 2005.  Its Lair Leader is Stealth and their website is:            http://www.irishseduction.com/forum or you can contact:      stealth.waves@gmail.com or  xrockridgex@gmail.com

NEW LAIR FORMING IN MILWAUKEE:
I am going to be starting a new lair consisting of only the Milwaukee and surrounding areas naturals. I feel like with this caliber of a Lair only success is an option. This is going to be a bunch of guys meeting up sporatically for sarging and for schedualed meetings. If you feel you qualify and can positively impact our group, email me at allimalgam@aol.com.

AUSTRIAN PLAYERS
Home of the legendary EuroSummit 2005, most diverse members from total beginners to serial layers from Austria, Germany and Switzerland. Join us! (If you happen to ravel by, drop us a line!) Visit: http://www.austrianplayers.com  Contact: Neodes@austrianplayers.com

NEW LAIR FORMING IN AMSTERDAM/HOLLAND:
The lair can be found at groups.yahoo.com/group/Amsterdam_Dating/

NEW LAIR FORMING IN PORTLAND, MAINE
I'm starting a lair in Portland, Maine so we can truly be "the way life should be"!
Starting with a dozen AFCs & PUAs and looking to grow and share our skills.
Send email to magickman@maine.rr.com if you wish to join.

NEW LAIR FORMING IN MISSISSIPPI/ALABAMA
I'm starting up a lair in MS/AL for anyone in driving distance to the Birmingham area. Contact blake1_19@yahoo.com for anyone interested in joining.

SALT LAKE CITY AND SURROUNDING AREAS
AFCs to PUAs. Meet and share seduction tips. We meet once a week and help push members to become the man they desire!
Contact UtahX at utahrafc@gmail.com

NEW LAIR FORMING IN NORFOLK-VIRGINIA BEACH, VIRGINIA
I'm interested in starting a Seduction Lair in the Norfolk-Virginia Beach area.  If anyone is interested, please email me. Thanks,
Stingray9001  stingray9001@yahoo.com

NEW LAIR FORMED IN DENVER
Denver Lair is a community for Denver/Boulder/Colorado area PUAs to wing, talk about the game and make friends in the community. If you're in the Colorado, join our yahoo-group: groups.yahoo.com/group/denver_puas/

NEW LAIR FORMING IN RICHMOND, VIRGINIA
Hi, I'm starting a lair in Richmond, Virginia, the state capitol with a rather big scene. Currently all gamers in Richmond are forced to go up to DC, or down to North Carolina if they wish to attend a lair meeting. I would like to keep that experience at home, as we have many beautiful women in this wonderful city. Send an email to miikey723@yahoo.com if you wish to join.

EUROPE LAIR FOUNDED
Red Priest has founded the Europe Lair. You can find the description here:
http//groups.yahoo.com/group/europelair/

ISRAEL LAIR:
For the Israel Lair, Tironut 69, go to http://www.tironut69.com

DUNEDIN, NEW ZEALAND LAIR FORMING
For all you Otago students (or campus orbiters) who think you got game! This will be the southernmost lair in the world. Run by an RAFC with a fair bit of bookwork and small experience- any skill level you want, just prepared to approach, talk and try out new stuff. Email me at beest.goes.roar@gmail.com, and will see if we can't get a local lair started. it's time to bring the game to the deep south!

WELLINGTON, NEW ZEALAND LAIR:

An active lair is up and running in Wellington, NZ. Primary focus is going out and working in the field. All skill levels are welcome. Anybody who wants to join constructive, like-minded people in persuing the PUA lifestyle. We have a forum, and a bunch of friendly people who can wing with you to get you off of the ground; email Matt via moxyfmac@gmail.com

TAMPA BAY AND ST. PETE, FLORIDA:
We started a new Lair in the Tampa Bay area. All styles welcome. e-mail us at paradigmaman@yahoo.com

NEW LAIR FORMING IN GENEVA
We want to create a Lair in Geneva, Switzerland. It would be open to French and English speaking people living in Geneva and neighbouring cities like Lausanne and France as well willing to meet and seduce women. All skill levels and ages are accepted. The main task of the Lair will be field experiences on a regular basis. Contact Julien at :  Julien72@bluewin.ch

NEW GROUP FOR CHICAGO
Chicago Wingman Meetup Group which currently holds meetings on the first Saturday of every month at 3:00 pm, the place will be disclosed to members once they sign up for the group.  The website address is wingman.meetup.com/18/ - this group is combining with the Chicago Lair, whose contact was Eric at theprogen2003@yahoo.com  Since they've just starting to hold meetings, they have a flexible format but as they get more organized they plan to have guest speakers.  Anyone who knows a local PUA (not self proclaimed) is encouraged to invite him/ her over to share ideas.  Please post all org issues under http://www.fastseduction.com/cities/Chicago

NEW LAIR FOR EDMONTON
Edmonton Men's Social Improvement Club, a Registered Non-Profit Organization can be reached at:
www.socialimprovementclub.org or by email: applicants@socialimprovementclub.org

SAN RAFAEL, CALIFORNIA
The Seduction Lair is up and running in San Rafael, California.  Contact activte@aol.com for more information.

PARIS PICK UP CLUB
Formed by a group of FRIENDLY motivated guys from all nationalities with some solid game. The Paris Pick Up Club (PPC) is where all the PUA's and RAFC's BROTHERS living in Paris can share experiences, wing with different people and practice techniques.  The goal is to IMPROVE our GAME while having lots of FUN. Since the purpose of the PPC is to practice, in order to join, future members must be available to sarge regularly. Contact alfaztec@yahoo.com

BELGIUM: NL Lounge at DutchSeduction.com
An independent platform for the phenomenon known as "seduction" in the Dutch language with members in Amsterdam, the Netherlands, Belgium and points beyond. Founded in 1999, we are one of the first international groups dedicated to seduction. Our purpose is to help members meet one another and share information and experience. Write to passie at passie@gmail.com Visit our Website: http://www.DutchSeduction.com

NETHERLANDS: NL Lounge at DutchSeduction.com An independent platform for the phenomenon known as "seduction" in the Dutch language with members in Amsterdam, the Netherlands, Belgium and points beyond. Founded in 1999, we are one of the first international groups dedicated to seduction. Our purpose is to help members meet one another and share information and experience. Write to passie at passie@gmail.com Visit our Website: http://www.DutchSeduction.com

NEW LAIR IN NEW ORLEANS
There is a new Lair in New Orleans and here is the info:
groups.yahoo.com/group/NewOrleansPlayers/ - MIKEALW@HOTMAIL.COM.
Description: This group is for guys in the New Orleans area who are studying the Double your Dating material by David DeAngelo. This group is to get and give advice, to share your experiences and results, and to hook up with other guys so you can go out and work on your game together. Anyone in the New Orleans area is welcome from inexperienced to PUA's.

NEW LAIR IN SINGAPORE
The Singapore Lair is a community for guys interested in improving their skills in meeting and attracting/seducing women. This group is mainly for guys who live in or travel to Singapore, although PUAs from other countries are also welcome. Membership is restricted to doers only -- you must be in the field and have real field experience. No armchair theorists allowed. To join this group, email singaporelair-owner@yahoogroups.com with your name, background and experience.

DALLAS LAIR
The Dallas Seduction Lair has been around for over a year now. We have had 18 official events of both discussion and seminar style events. As well as countless nights of sarging with newfound wingmen by our members. We are now over 120 members strong. Anyone at any skill level with a desire to learn is welcome. More information at: wingman.meetup.com/6/ or http://www.DallasSeductionLair.com

DALLAS PUA
DallasPua.com is formed from the spirit of helping my fellow brothers become better in their sarging skills of women and of life; to develop their individual integrity. The site offers many free features such as a forum (http://www.dallaspua.com/forum), personal journals/blogs, extensive resource page, and more. It is based out of Dallas, but the tailored PUA features are available to anyone. This is your site! For more info go to http://www.DallasPua.com

HUNGARIAN LAIR FORMING
Hungarian Lair (Budapest) invites all visiting and local people for a great time of sarging in Budapest clubs and streets. We field test MM, SS, RSD, Maniac Plan and various other stuff. Contact us at redpriest_hu@yahoo.com!"

NEW LAIR FORMING IN ITALY:
Our goal is to have a lot of FUN! Why did we create a Lair? To keep in touch with each other and to rock the Italian scene, we want to live like rockstars since we know we DESERVE IT. We have had enough of all the boring guys and loser boyfriends out there that are making women's lives a nightmare when they are waiting for US, the playboys. Join us and we will share with you a lot of secrets that you need to know to totally transform your life life and get more choice not only in life but with every relationship. In order to learn you must be willing to go out with us and try new stuff asking to yourself:  "What is possible?  What if I get the results I only dreamed of and then even more than that?"  Send an email at italy_lair@yahoo.com to join.

NEW LAIR FORMED IN NORWICH (UK):
The Norwich Lair is a group for pickup artists in Norwich (UK) and the surrounding areas. The lair meets every Saturday night , 10PM in Norwich
City. The group is not a talking shop, if you want to remain in the lair you must participate in fieldwork every 90 days. To join the group, send an email to thenorwichlair-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

OHIO LAIR FORMED:
An Ohio Lair has just been created for ASFers located in Ohio. I'm hoping to have regular sarging meetings at different cities in Ohio and regular guest speakers. Any ASFer in Ohio who is interested in joining please email me an intro of yourself to philonous03@yahoo.com.

VIRGINIA/CAROLINA LAIR GROUP
The VAC (Virginia Carolina) Lair is a community for Virginia and Carolina area PUAs to talk about the game, make friends in the community, and meet up with wings in the area. Current members are located in the Charlotte, Blacksburg/Radford, and Raleigh/Chapel Hill areas. While those from outside this area are encouraged to participate, most events will likely be held within these areas. The VAC Lair is open to all levels from Beginner to PickUp Artist (PUA). Just come with a desire to learn, a willingness to share what you know, and a commitment to field test what you learn. groups.yahoo.com/group/vaclair/

NEW YORK CITY LAIR:
New York City Team Strike Force - The oldest lair in the U.S. and the only one that can lay claim to having dedicated instructors of reputation on staff, just for the members. Very organized, very respected and very strong sense of community, as well as life balance. You know you want us. Visit @ http://www.nyclair.com
Please email admin@nyclair.com to request information about membership.

SECOND NEW YORK LAIR STARTED:
With the help of a few friends, Strongbad has started a lair in NYC. Send an email to either strongbadpua@yahoo.com or
NY-PLAY-subscribe@yahoogroups.com to join if you live in the NY area.

BLOOMINGTON LAIR STARTED:
The Bloomington, IN lair for guys interested in attraction/seduction. This is a group made for guys that want to discuss techniques, inner game, make
new friends, and meet up with wings in the Bloomington area. If your interested in subscribing email: b-lair-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

AUCKLAND, NEW ZEALAND LAIR
Anyone living in Auckland (New Zealand) are welcome to join this bad ass lair. It's consantly growing, we have guys with all sorts of experience levels with diverse styles of game. We sarge regularly. So if you're up for some fun e-mail us at akpuah@gmail.com"

SCOTLAND LAIR:
There is now a Scotland Lair. It's the SSs Group and we have a website at http://www.scotlandlair.com that we JUST put up. The group is currently yahoo based and we would like to start taking in any members who may or may not have heard about us yet. To join, they can visit SSs.scotlandlair.com which will redirect them to our mailing list, or email signup@scotlandlair.com for more instructions on joining.  The website is starting to grow big as it's seen on ASF. We have our own discussion forums. We also have a photo and VIDEO gallery where PUAs can upload their own photos and videos and browse those of others!! We are also giving out free scotlandlair.com email addresses to contributors.

BRAZIL NOW HAS A LAIR:
To join please send an email to Brazil_P-L-A-Y-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

NEW LAIR FORMING IN TOKYO:
The Tokyo lair now has a discussion board for discussing the finer points of the Japanese scene, guys looking to meet wings and discuss all things nanpa can email tokyolair@hotmail.com for an invite to the board.

ARIZONA LAIR
Arizona Pick-Up Artist: This lair was started in July 2004 by Cramias and J-Dog. We initially wanted to build a PUA community in Arizona to; improve our skills, have training resources, and especially encourage people in Arizona to actually get involved and wing together. As of Jan'05 we have 33 Arizona memebers and almost 200 members worldwide. Thousands of archived posts and more training resources under way. There is a wing contact list for Verified Arizonan's only, and we have frequent lair meetings and many people now wing together.
Visit http://www.ArizonaPUA.com.  Contact jdog@arizonapua.com

ANNOUNCING SOUTH FLORIDA P-L-A-Y LIST:
The South Florida P-L-A-Y list is a community for Miami, Ft Lauderdale and Boca-Palm Beach area PUA's to meet up and improve their game in the field.
All methods are welcome. Please understand that our primary focus will be field work. To join, please contact Zuzu atSouthFlorida-P-L-A-Y-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

THE INDIA LAIR
We are a small but dynamic bunch of aspiring PUAs in India. Guys of all skill levels are welcome but MUST be serious about actually getting out in the field. Please register at the site. New registrants will be verified to weed out KJs. Visit http://www.indialair.com

BRISTOL LAIR
These guys have a truly great site, with a lot of terrific resources.  Go to http://www.bristollair.com.

NEW LAIR FORMING IN DALLAS/FORT WORTH:
If you are interested in joining, please send an e-mail to dfwseductionlair@yahoo.com.

NEW LAIR IN GERMANY!
The name of the group is PU_Meetings_Germany. It´s a field oriented group and we welcome everybody from all over Germany to join and attend our meetings which are held in different cities all over Germany.  For further information write to: pimpstylez@hotmail.com

NEW LAIR FORMING IN ORANGE COUNTY, CALIFORNIA:
A new lair called the O.C. Player's Group is forming for members of the seduction community in Orange County, California. The group will be a place for everyone from aspiring to accomplished PUAs in "the OC" to post their pick up experiences and successes and meet occasionally in a constructive and non-critical environment. Everyone is welcome, but you must be serious about becoming a PUA and the emphasis will be on getting out into the field and reporting on what worked and what didn't. Armchair pua/theorists need not apply! Contact pua1day (Kurt) for further information at  o.c.playasgroup@sbcglobal.net or to join at:
groups.yahoo.com/group/ocplayasgroup/

NEW LAIR FORMING IN HARRISBURG, PA:
No keyboard Junkies, only people who are willing to go out in the field and just get better at the game. All levels are welcome.  Contact Gaurang at 
gpatel1981@yahoo.com

NEW SYDNEY LAIR STARTED!!!
Monthly meetings with guest speakers. All levels welcomed only prerequisite is that you are in the field. To join please email ta_justin@hotmail.com

NEW LAIR FORMING IN OKLAHOMA CITY:
Lu is looking to start a lair in Oklahoma City, OK.  He would like to invite anyone who's interested in going out sarging to join, & help him get the lair started, please respond only if you are interested in Going Out & sarge, or Doing Field Work, contact him at ljp97001@yahoo.com.

NEW LAIR FORMING IN PHILADELPHIA
Looking for a group of guys interested in a Lair in the Philly area. All experience levels welcome but must be willing to actually go into the field. See philadelphiaLair@yahoogroups.com or email me at myaroch@yahoo.com

NEW LAIR FORMING IN AUCKLAND, NEW ZEALAND:
We have already met-up with couple of local guys and sarge 2-3 times a week. We are willing to meet-up with more guys to share the PU knowledge and experience to improve our game. Those of you who are interested contact us at sexualpredator@em-wave.com"

KANSAS CITY LAIR FORMING:
Looking to get a group of like minded guys together to share ideas and most importantly work the field in Kansas City MO. Write eclypz@hotmail.com
and include "From Cliff's List" in the title.

NEW LAIR FORMED IN CONNECTICUT:
Open to PUAs and RAFCs who live in CT who are interested in or have real field experience as opposed to keyboard theory. Send an email to djsemtp00@aol.com with your background and experience.

CONNECTICUT PLAYER'S LAIR:

CT Player's Lair now opens its membership to any PUA from the skill levels of RAFC to MPUA and lives in the CT, NY, NJ, RI, or Massachusetts area. We have our own private pick up knowledge base that all members may use as a resource to learn from and use in the field with us. Please register at: http://www.spiritual-seduction.com/phpBB2/index.php (site is either inactive or no longer relevant). Registration is free until January 20th of Next Year!

NEW LAIR FORMED IN OTTAWA:
Ottawa Lair yahoo group created groups.yahoo.com/group/ottawalair/

NEW LAIR FORMED IN BOSTON:
The Boston Lair is now open. The lair is a forum for brothers in the Boston, Rhode Island, and upper New England area to get together and meet others in the game and to build an active community in Boston and the surrounding areas. To subscribe to the Lair, email b-o-s-lair-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.

NEW LAIR FORMING IN NORTH CAROLINA:
A group is interested in forming a lair in the North Carolina area.  Members include attendees of the Charlotte Sargeathon in November 2003.  Meetings may rotate through different cities (possibly outside North Carolina) depending on interest.  Contact Jason at thee_jacas@yahoo.com with LAIR in the subject line for more information.

NEW LAIR FORMED IN POLAND:
We've formed a LAIR in Poland groups.yahoo.com/group/pflayers/join/ so if anybody is interested in joining it contact me at PFLayers-owner@yahoogroups.com or subscribe at PFLayers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com. It's unmoderated formum where You can excange your views on the game and meet with wings in your area.

NEW LAIR FORMING IN LAS VEGAS:
Nightlife who runs San Diego is helping a few guys set something up in Vegas so a new group is now forming. To join please send an email LV-P-L-A-Y-subscribe@yahoogroups.com be prepared to give a brief intro.

NEW LAIR FORMING IN ITALY:
Milano will be headquarters. All Italians, Swiss, Austrians, etc are welcome to join. Would like to set up infrastructure for weekly or biweekly weekend sargefests, both day and night. Goals include: hosting seminars/workshops of the world's best PUAs, sharing the best techniques for Italian hotbabes, sarging together, sarging trips to Roma, Firenze, etc. We need to get a solid core of about 10 guys to really get it going. All levels welcome. Email italypua@yahoo.com for info.

ATLANTA LAIR:
Contact: groovewhiz@yahoo.com

NEW LAIR FORMING MILWAUKEE TO MADISON:
A Lair is start for the Milwaukee to Madison, Wisconsin area. Emphasis will be on field sarging and developing a network of like-minded "wings" to develop and maintain a secret society in this area. We will sarge from the college bars of Madison to the redneck fishermen bars of Lake Country to the cheesy working class discos of Milwaukee. All interested parties (male or female) please contact g66@outgun.com

NEW LAIR FORMING IN MONTERREY, MEXICO:
The style I use is C&F from DYD, but am willing to try other styles, and will be very focused in going out and learning. Anyone interested in forming a Lair here in Mexico just write to me: javimartinez50@hotmail.com

NEW LAIR FORMING IN HONOLULU, HAWAII:
Showing those surfergirls a good time since late '03. Drop an e-mail to lair808@hotmail.com for more info on building sandcastles.

NEW LAIR IN CHINA (MAINLAND, TAIWAN, HK):
A list for China based PUA has been set-up. Discuss PU tactics/experiences in China, and meet and practice with other local PUA. Contact Angel Caido on el_angel_caido@lycos.com and join the group @ groups.yahoo.com/group/PUA-china/join/

NEW LAIR FORMING IN OSLO:
The Oslo Lair just opened. If you are interested / want to join, go to groups.yahoo.com/group/asf-Oslo/ and apply. We will start out with monthly meetings, on the first Sunday of every month. The first meeting will be held December 7th, at 18h00.

NEW LAIR FORMING IN LOS ANGELES:
The LA List, PLAY (Player's Los Angeles Yahoo) Group, is a community for Los Angeles area PUAs to talk about the game, make friends in the community, and meet up with wings in the LA area. The PLAY List is a community that is open to the public and is a place where you can share your views on any methods in an unmoderated (except for deletion of spam) forum. Contact Papa at papa@realsocialdynamics.com and get on the mailing list by emailing p-l-a-y-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.

WASHINGTON, D.C.:
DC Seduction, formerly known as DC Area PUAs, has been around since 2000. We are over three dozen brothers drawn from the FastSeduction, SS, and the Lounge communities.  Contact Minger at minger@dcseduction.com

SEATTLE LAIR FORMING!
I would like to find out how many are interested in forming a Seattle Lair. Contact theloinking1@hotmail.com to get on their mailing list.

THE AUSTIN SOCIETY (AUSTIN, TEXAS)
The Austin Society is a group of friends, within the greater Austin/San Antonio area, improving their attraction and relationship skills through field work and study. If you are interested in joining and contributing to our group, email us at theaustinsociety@yahoogroups.com for more info. Open-minded gentlemen of all skill levels are welcome."

NEW ORLEANS LAIR FORMING:
Joseph is looking to set up or find a "mastermind group" of likeminded people and he is in the south MS area about 1.5 hours drive from New Orleans or the MS gulf coast.  He would like to invite anyone in MS/LA/AL within driving distance to participate, and to help him to get it started. Contact him at: veuxdeux@yahoo.com

NYC:
Contact Marco, marcorulesinfinity@yahoo.com and get on their mailing list: NYCTSF-SUBSCRIBE@YAHOOGROUPS.COM

SAN DIEGO (TWO GROUPS NOW!):
1) The San Diego lair is now opening their doors to potential new members for the next 30 days. If interested in joining the San Diego lair please contact Nightlife at nightlife@playboylifestyle.net
2) Pete M., and Nightlife have formed another seduction group in San Diego. This is to benefit guys who are interested in Pick Up who live or frequent San Diego. It is a group that is modeled after the LA P-L-A-Y list. To join send an email to SD-P-L-A-Y-subscribe@yahoogroups.com It is open to everyone in San Diego.

SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA LAIR:
We have a very active group in the San Francisco area dedicated to improving their game. All skill levels and types of game welcome. We have meetings once every 6 weeks or so, and numerous sarge outings. We also have top PUA's share their knowledge with us when they come to San Francisco. Our list traffic is low but valuable. Lots of field reports and feedback. To join send an email to sf_morpheus_x@yahoo.com, and mention you heard about us on Cliff's list.

DETROIT LAIR:
New lair starting in Detroit area. Guys of all skill levels are welcome but MUST be SERIOUS about learning. The group will be interactive and do field work also.
Any one willing to learn or teach is welcome. Send Greg an email saying your interested at Grgreg_2001@yahoo.com

HOUSTON:
www.houstonlair.com  Members of the Lair meet regularly, actively apply and improve their skills and are eager to teach success. Contact: xmlenigma, bashev can be reached at xmlenigma@yahoo.com, rnkayab@hotmail.com

MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA:
Turning KJs into Active PUA
Members meet twice weekly with approximately 200+ registered members. Currently run mini study groups on Mystery Method, Gunwitch Method, Juggler, SS. We usually meet out in the field and streets so there is plenty of field practice. Our Sarge-Fest is a great learning night for newbies where some of Australias best PUA coach you to improve your game. We also organize other activities such as Salsa dance nights for our members and we encourage our members to contribute back to the community to help it grow. The lair currently runs its own forum so come join this active lair.
Contact iceman at  melb.lair.autoreply@gmail.com.  See Melb-Lair.com

AUCKLAND, NEW ZEALAND
Philip has started a LAIR for those who live in the upper North Island of New Zealand (Auckland, Hamilton, Tauranga, etc). There are already 4 of them who have been meeting regularly in Auckland, and they welcome others to be in touch. SSer's from elsewhere in New Zealand are also welcome to email to share experiences and form a network.  Contact: philip@toeb.co.nz

MIAMI:
Contact Jerry at trudelle@email.com to attend. 

LONDON, ENGLAND
The London Seduction Society http://www.thelss.com

AMSTERDAM:
Contact Big Bear groups.yahoo.com/group/nllounge/
The main purpose of the Lair is to help Wingmen to get in touch with each other and "in field" action! Membership open to anyone who lives in Holland or Belgium, or is a frequent visitor. However membership policy is strict.

PERTH, AUSTRALIA:
The Perth lair is a small group of people who sarge regularly several times a week. At the moment, I'm actively looking for new members to join us on our outings (the more the merrier!).  Anyone wishing to go sarging with us any day of the week should email me at tnejad@hotmail.com to meet up.

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Blake Richards has put out a new ebook that looks very interesting.  Check it out here:  http://www.social-mastery.com/Game.html

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Real Social Dynamics WORKSHOPS:
I highly recommend that you check these guys out.  They are in the final stages of producing their long-awaited e-book.

Real Social Dynamics (realsocialdynamics.directtrack.com/ad/1/CD11):
Learn what works in seminar, and then jump directly into the field and watch the instructors demonstrate and teach it live. Stop feeling the fear of not knowing what to do ...

Individualized Bootcamps   
Sign up and get more info here:  realsocialdynamics.directtrack.com/ad/1/CD11)

Real Social Dynamics has just launched its new website, forum communities, and Foundations DVD/CD set. This is the most comprehensive program they've delivered at a seminar and they were fortunate to have recorded it as well. Visitors can check out the new forum or get the new Foundations home study course at realsocialdynamics.directtrack.com/ad/1/CD11

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The Venusian Art Society is dedicated to the pursuit of Relationship Mastery.
We have started a Yahoo group in each city our members are located in Denver,Houston, and Atlanta. You can register for membership by going to Yahoo and joining V_A_S_D or V_A_S_A or V_A_S_H. Be sure to include your experience in the Venusian Arts as well as what you hope to get out of them.
This forum will serve as a way to discuss any and all issues related to the Venusian Arts, from cold approach to relationship management. We welcome all active participants in the Venusian arts from any of the various schools such as MM, SS, DYD, etc..
This will be a controlled forum so feel free to post anything you want as long as it is directly relatable to the Venusian Arts. This is not a classified board or a place to advertise.

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New Dating/Seduction Seminars & Workshop in Montreal by DOC! 
Doc, who many of you know from his great interview here last time and all too rare but outstanding posts on this list, on Mystery's Lounge, and the Montreal Lair, is bringing his seminars and speed dating events to Montreal.  Previously they were mainly held in Toronto as part of the Learning Annex, Doc is now setting it up here and plans to hold events on a monthly basis.
The website is http://www.lifeskillsnetwork.ca.  Registrations available on the website.  The events are Dating Secrets for Women, a 3 Hour seminar (cost $50) and Dating Secrets for Guys; a Guide to The Art of Dating (also 3 hours and $50).  There will also be a speed dating event in the evening for $50.  You can contact Doc by email at seduction.school@sympatico.ca.
The fall calendar has a full weekend seminar and makeover. He also has  3 new books coming out this fall under the SETNA Dating Manual Series. Volume I (to be released this week) deals with the psychology of attraction, first impressions, and working on your inner game, Volume II (coming in September) deals with tactics and strategies to go from meeting her to dating her, and Volume III will deal with Managing Relationships.
Full-weekend Dating Makeover workshops will be offered soon (including a half day with a personal stylist, video tape analysis of body language, and live practice sessions with dating coaches  beautiful women who will give the guys on the spot feedback on how they come across and what to improve). If there is a group of 10 or more guys interested in a seminar (or 5 guys for a workshop, he would consider making a special trip to their city).
This is a great opportunity to learn from a real master.

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Mystery Method Workshops:
What method are YOU using?
If you are opening groups (or sets: 2-sets, 3-sets, mixed sets, etc) of people with the 3 second rule by stacking indirect openers (including false opinion openers), false time constraining (discovered by Style), demonstrating a higher value to your romantic interest’s peer group with high octane DHVs while she obliquely observes (locking her into her own set with a prop), and simultaneously performing false disqualifiers (which include negs) on her with the intension of disarming her peergroup and then isolating her to rebuild her self-esteem once you have enough IOIs (indicators of interest) so you may share in a comfort and trust building effort and then build in a jealousy subplot to solidify her attraction for you, you are using The Mystery Method.
If instead you are only approaching women who are alone, you are greatly limiting your options and quite likely alienating your target's friends. Do you want a lonely woman (why is she lonely?) or a woman who already has a healthy social lfe? Truth is, healthy women have healthy relationships ... sometimes good friendships with guys. Like it or not, you will have to meet these women with men in her group.
Women of beauty are rarely found alone. Don't miss the opportunity to meet and attract them WITH social proof from her very own peergroup. Group Approach Theory improves your options and increases the chances for attraction DRAMATICALLY over Single Approach Theory (SAT).
The guys who are GREAT in this game KNOW that they can improve their game ten-fold through seminars and personal coaching in-field workshops. Think about this: Why did so many of the greats who use Mystery's GAT (Style, Tyler D., MTL_PUA, and others) take MM seminars and workshops? What started them off to greatness in this game? Can you see the co-relation may in fact be a causation?
If you have NEVER taken a seminar or workshop before, it's time to finally reconsider. They are life-transforming. Workshops and seminars were for many of the greats THE difference between great success and failure. If you are ready, visit  http://www.themysterymethod.com/magicbullets.html

Tenmagnet is doing Mystery Method workshops in Toronto and Montreal. 

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DJ:
Upcoming 2 day inner game and storytelling programs:
This program focuses on how to take experiences from your life and convey them in an attractive, fun, and seductive way and incorporates everything from voice projection exercises to hypnotic language structures to deep inner work on who you are and what you want to convey. The first day is inner game intensive while the second day focuses on the mechanics of storytelling for a truly *complete* experience
I've received so many requests to build in some of the "old school" material on value elicitation and creating a rapport that invites her to open up to you, that I've decided to build it into this program. There will be a special section on moving from flash attraction to true connection. Please contact me for a flier with more details!
I’m offering special discounts for these programs so please email me for details at dj_seminar@yahoo.com...
I hope everyone is well and I look forward to hearing from you. Feel free to drop a line to say hello…

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DR. PAUL SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT:

This is your first chance in the New Year to learn the bottom line in dating. You can bridge the gap between who you are and who you want to be. In an industry increasingly dominated by hype, I want to make a rare move and speak very plainly about what distinguishes the 7th Sense Seminar(TM) from other training in self help and social skills.
When you think about it, everything relevant to your love life simply breaks down into three areas of understanding and mastery: You, her, and the interaction between you. Here’s what you’ll learn:
You…
The core technology I’ve taught for years is known as MindOS. I called it the operating system of the human mind for a reason. If you start to dig into psychology you see patterns and predictable responses to life, a sort of biological machinery. People are often frustrated when they learn this and feel trapped in their own head as they struggle again and again with the same problems. What makes the difference, and what I teach as a board certified psychologist, is the connection and pattern that goes beyond the different theories of psychology.
This isn’t an arm chair notion. I’ve used my approach to the mind to produce profound change in patients for over a decade, refining it into a system that is easy to understand and use. It’s no surprise that what works for people with huge challenges in therapy works even better and faster for those who are already functional people looking for change.
You have the rare opportunity to truly work on your life from the “inside out” by mastering yourself, rather than looking at the surface behaviors. Many dating coaches are, in effect, teaching you to be an actor with a very specific role. Is that really what calls to you in life, or do you want more?
Her…
One of the criticisms you may have seen on T.V. when people respond to guru’s teaching about “seduction” is the claim that women are “objectified.” If you don’t look at people as individuals, you’re cheating yourself of a lot of the joy you can have. Do you know anybody who obsesses over every interaction they have with a girl? Has their view of dating become rigid and mechanical?
The bottom line is that individuality matters, and you can’t approach every woman with the same mindset. You can increase your success with women, your peace of mind and your mental health by learning more about others. At the 7th Sense Seminar(TM) you’ll learn a revolutionary system of understanding personality types known as KWML(TM). This stands for King, Warrior, Magician and Lover.
KWML™ has an advantage over other personality profiling systems because it can be used quickly, in the moment and out in the open. It doesn’t require lengthy questionnaires or tests like a traditional Myers-Briggs. You can learn to get a true sense of a person’s motivations and needs in an instant just by talking and keeping your eyes open. This lets you give people what they need at a deep level, and helps you predict the challenges and rewards of dating a particular girl from day one.
When you master this system of understanding personality, you’ll have the key that lets you look at yourself and others objectively. Understanding people will always be a puzzle to be solved, but you can learn to see how the pieces fit.
You and Her…
You’ve probably noticed that a lot of attention is given to the surface interactions in dating. Men’s advice has focused on things to say and ways to behave. Women’s advice has focused on how to look and “rules” for dating. With DatingOS, you have the chance to put it all together and understand the real connection that binds dating behavior to inner psychology. This is the model of human courtship.
Courtship covers all the elements of evolutionary psychology, biology, sociology and culture that bring a man and a woman from attraction and friendship to a possible long term or sexual connection. DatingOS is the premium model for understanding human sexuality.
What does it all mean? When you combine real skill at self mastery, deep insight into other people as individuals, and a solid grasp of the real science of human courtship, you will know all that you need to change your life, not only with women but in everything.
The 7th Sense Seminar (TM) also includes more time with live coaching than other social trainers, nearly a full 24 hours dedicated to practice, workshops and field work. This is in addition to all the seminar and classroom training.
Put it all together and you have more deep education and more practical applications than you can find anywhere else. To see the full sales description and checkout all the details, visit http://doctorpaul.net/products.htm. See you there

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The new technology (DatingOS) Dr. Paul is unleashing on the world completely explains what your hangups are, not only in "hooking up" or "approaching," but through the dating process and deep into relationships. This doesn't exist anywhere else, nor will it, because Dr Paul has gone through twenty years of both psychiatric clinical training, seen 15,000 patients with problems of both a "dating" nature, AND comprehensively solves deep problems that people have with sexual attraction, commitment, marriage, breakups, relationships, trauma, depression, anxiety disorders, ADD, OCD, career complications, cheating and betrayal.

If you want permanent RESULTS, you may need some real science, and the same fun time you have at other seminars of course, with more mastery of ALL psychology of dating—INNER GAME, OUTER GAME, and never before seen PROFILING of women for perfect fit to your personality.

So far, DatingOS has only been available in person, at seminars in the heart of the city of SINGLES, in summertime after a bitter winter has all females in a frenzy of cabin fever.  See http://doctorpaul.net/products.htm

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Herbal, one of the characters made famous by The Game, has finally released an ebook after taking some time away from the community. He also offers a free 10 Day E-Mail Bootcamp.. For more information, visit  http://www.makeherchaseyou.com/

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Brian has a network of sites at bogdock.com/ and in there he has launched a dating site, http://www.fullcontactdating.com/
which he generously has included a page for Cliff's List at:
www.fullcontactdating.com/index.php/cliffs-list/
which you should visit!  As a reward for visiting Brian's site, you can get a F R E E copy of his new e-book which can be downloaded from:
www.fullcontactdating.com/index.php/btp/

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Dear fellow PUAs,
Probably you've heard that this year's EuroSummit will be held in London. After last year's awesome success in Vienna, we decided to take it to the
next level. In London, the nerve centre of Europe, we are getting ready to rock the world.

If have some PU experience and ready to travel, come join us, and take part in our celebration of the fairer sex. During these 3 days and 3 nights of sarging, you can meet some of the best PUAs and most beautiful girls in Europe, and you can also hold your speech if you'd like to.

Please write us that you'd like to join us in London provided all the people come you'd want to see.
It's a survey until we finish the site. You by NO MEANS will have an obligation to us, nor will your name be displayed on the EuroSummit site.
For advanced PUAs:
Please also tell us if you'd like to hold a speech, and of which topic. We'll schedule it then, but the final schedule will depend on the other speakers, too.

And after you send a pre-application, we'll send you the list of people who already signed up.

Please send your email to redpriest_hu@yahoo.com, with the subject "Euro Summit"
Thank you,
RedPriest

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Derek Vitalio:
Seduction Science Live In-Field Workshops!

The fact is, only by MODELING the very best can you achieve the very best. In a Seduction Science workshop, you'll meet and train with master coach McMaax who will take you to unique hot spots all over a particular city for meeting the most attractive, beautiful women. Your coach will demonstrate their skills and explain, teach, and show you how to interact with women at a club and on the street.

With a coach, you'll find an immediate shift in your skills and understanding with women as you see what it takes demoed live and right in front of you. And there's no reason to take the long and hard path or reinvent the wheel. After making hundreds of approaches, we've learned what works and what doesn't. We'll show you exactly how it's done and save you months, if not years of time.

You'll never have to go back to feeling lonely or lost and live passionately once again. Reserve your place as soon as possible (placing is limited!) so that you're guaranteed a spot.

For more information on the full workshop schedule visit: http://www.seductionscience.com/
 

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Swinggcat has published a new ebook which you can check out at his website at http://www.realworldseduction.com.  Those of you who remember his outstanding posts here will be anxious to get this as soon as possible.  Highly recommended. 

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Ross Jeffries Speed Seduction: 
Attention Men:  Are You Ready To Discover The Absolute Best System For
Getting You ANY Kind Of Women You Want, Just The Way You Want Them,
Anytime,  Anywhere, No Matter Your Age, Your Finances Or What You Look Like?
Click Here For Your FREE Report!  http://speedseduction.biz/

 
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Major Mark (http://www.trucor.com):

Major Mark is holding a live event "21st Century Professional Hypnosis -- The New Curriculum" on April 23rd-27th, at the Hooter's Hotel in Las Vegas.

Send mail to Cassi@trucor.com with questions or comments about his seminars.
 
Call to register: 419 882-8543 or go to http://www.trucor.com

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Double Your Dating LIVE! NEW Seminar! We will be reviewing all of the new DYD products here soon, including the monthly interview series in which David DeAngelo interviews "Dating Gurus". 

You can order all your DYD products and register for seminars through this link: affiliate.doubleyourdating.com/dt.asp?a=CD1175&b=229&o=

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Spirit (Founder of The National Player's Lair):
Attract and Seduce Women by being 'who you are' and join The National Player's Lair for FREE! The lair is now OPEN to anyone interested in getting beautiful women to your front doorstep in an instant! Act soon because we WILL be closing our open invitation very soon and only allowing a select few to join with us! Look forward to meeting you!  groups.yahoo.com/group/theplayerslair/
Spiritual Seduction Forums - Get your dream girl now. Awaken your inner seductive powers here.
www.spiritual-seduction.com/phpBB2/index.php?c=1

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Threesomes! The Secrets To Making Your Fantasy A Reality
A home study course by David Shade http://www.masterful-lover.com/ebook.html
If you are like most men, you have had a fantasy about a threesome with 2 hot bi-sexual women. Everything you could possibly need to know about how to have threesomes is in this special information packed course.
The FIRST And ONLY, step-by-step guide written for men, featuring Pickup Artists and couples who are actually having threesomes all the time.
I GUARANTEE you that you've NEVER been exposed to, or had real Threesomes explained to you in the way I've done it here in this course!
It doesn't matter if you are in a relationship currently or not, every situation is covered here...
- The 3 scenarios to make a threesome happen (pick the one that works BEST for you)
- How to have threesomes as part of a committed relationship (and have it bring you closer together)
- The real truth about women and bisexuality (This will SURPRISE you)
- Proven methods to deal with your woman if she is on the fence about having a threesome. (You will have her begging you to make it happen)
- 4 vital things you MUST know about bisexual women (if you want to be successful having threesomes)
- How you can tell if a women is bi-sexual or not. (It's not what you think)
- The single biggest obstacle most women have to doing a threesome with their man. (when you can deal with this, the rest is easy)
- The foolproof way to bring up the subject of threesomes when you
have been with a woman for a long time. (This one is so powerful I almost didn't release it)
- The one thing you can say that shows a bisexual woman you are NOT like all the other guys (Do this and they might even fall in LOVE with you)
- Also, actual field reports of David & his girlfriend picking up bisexual women
- And much, much more...
The bottom line is that by learning how to have threesomes... YOU can live life fully and enjoy being a sensual person through expression of healthy sexuality in a mutually beneficial way.
Free samples of the course video online, check it out at http://www.masterful-lover.com/ebook.html

The classic 'David Shade Manual' goes online
You've done all the hard work, found the HB, attracted her, managed to get her back to your place, now you need to skills in the bedroom if
you want to keep the attraction going. Being able to give her the sexual experience of her life is the final tool in the seducer's
toolkit, so make sure you make the most of this opportunity. David Shade, as you are no doubt aware, is well known in the seduction
community as the master of bedmanship skills.

His masterpiece the 'David Shade Masterful Lover Manual' is now available for the first time online at http://www.masterful-lover.com/ebook.html. Highly
recommended, it is possibly the only book on the subject you will ever need. Compulsory reading.

http://www.masterful-lover.com/ebook.html
"The Seduction End-Game"

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Payton Kane's Seduce and Conquer (http://www.seduceandconquer.com/seducewomen) CD disks present Payton's unique, dynamic style of meeting and seducing women.  His methods are very natural and are the epitome of the original advice you get - tease and take away, play hard to get, etc.  Definitely worth checking out, but not for everyone.

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Allow me to Re-Introduce Myself......
It looks like the buzz has begun. People are starting to
ask questions.
Check this post I found on fast seduction:
On 6/23/06 1:05:00 AM, T wrote:
>I've been getting some e-mails
>by will from DYD. I was
>wondering if anyone knows his
>style of game or if anyone has
>had coaching from him.
To clarify, I think you mean Will H. from the many
DYD programs, though he doesnt actually work for
DYD.
Anyway, having met and hung out with Will many
times in person, he is one of the coolest, most laid
back and funny people I have ever met.
He is also one of the top guys for approaching that
I have ever seen. I have only seen him get a bad
reaction once, and he was going for that on purpose
so that he could turn it around later (which he did
and number closed the girl).
He came to Boston last summer for an event called
the 'Supermodel Tour' and between him and me,
we number closed all the finalists, even though
there was competition there from New England
Patriot football players :-)
Formhandle and I also hung out with him in
Montreal, and to this day keep recalling some of
the cool approaches he did on the street there.
I dont know if he is still doing private bootcamps,
but a friend of ours here in Boston took one, and
met a girl during the bootcamp that he is still dating
now almost a year later, so the results there speak
for themselves.
Other major strengths he has is club game (setting
up the club, etc.), managing multiple women (he
probably has at least 10 going himself at any one
time) and critiquing your overall style and wardrobe.
TokyoPUA

Thanks TokyoPUA.
It's nice to hear guys saying such positive things about
you and the work you do.
(My clients love me even more. :)
Between 'Managing' my VERY active social life, and
trying to put some stuff together for you, I have to tell
you I'm SLAMMED.
(I might have to 'cut loose' some of my ladies)
Seriously, I barely have enough time to watch TV
anymore. Not that I'm complaining because It's really
cool to get emails from my subscribers.
(this is ALL new to me)
I've been getting a LOT of emails from guys interested
in learning more, thing is, I don't have anything to sell
you!
However, If enough of you are interested, then I'd
consider doing a group phone coaching thing, or even
a BOOTCAMP.
If you missed the other email with the download link
to the Mp3 file of my interview, you can get the recording
here. no strings attached:
www.youaresoinmyway.com/will_interview.html
Dave M. gave me a heavy arm twisting and made me
spill the beans about some of my newest dating tricks
and tips.
(The tip about the TEXT message is a Will Daddy CLASSIC!)
NOTE: I may be taking the call down shortly because
I'm a bit nervous about guys knowing these dating tips
and secrets - so this is not a made-up scarcity motivator) :)
Good stuff, no charge. Here it is:
www.youaresoinmyway.com/will_interview.html

Now go meet some women!

Will

P.S. I'll be taking this one down in a day or so. It's
best to go ahead and watch it now.

P.P.S. GOT DATING QUESTIONS?
I've got answers. Send em' to me at:
will@youaresoinmyway.com

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I'm having the last of my under $1000 bootcamp in March. Book now or forever hold your peace (or pay more when tuition increases).

And the LAST of the under $1K bootcamps will be held in Vegas (March 9 - 11) where I've achieved getting three separate students hooked up in three separate bootcamps. Can I go 4 for 4? The real questions is: 'Can you afford to miss out?'

More details here:
theasianplayboy.blogspot.com/2007/01/last-of-under-1000-bootcamps.html

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NEW PRODUCTS FROM DAVE RIKER
Have you ever wished that Speed Seduction® was taught in a more structured way, piece by piece, subject by subject, in a way that allows you to really
understand it, really KNOW it and really USE and APPLY it even better than before?

If so, check out http://www.daveriker.com/ssmanual/

Riker's Seduction Log - Live Seminar
If you always wanted to hear more field reports, with full details, and even some recordings, then this seminar is for you. Dave Riker (Ross's co-trainer for those of you who don't know him) spends about 3 hours each evening going through his personal Logs and notes and provides full reports on sarges, many from start to close (finish). And that's a full "close" by the way, not just an email address or phone number!
The seminar is held in conjunction with Ross Jeffries Speed Seduction Seminars. Ross's seminar is during the day (and Riker presents at that too) and then Riker does his seminar in the evening. And even if you do not attend Ross's seminar you can still attend Riker's.
For full details see the web page at:  http://www.daveriker.com/logseminar/track/cl.htm (site is either inactive or no longer relevant)
Be sure to check out his "Reviews" page on his site. Many guys that have been in the game for a while, and attended a LOT of seminars, were just blown away by Riker's Log seminar.

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Introducing 1 on 1 Badboy workshops:

Badboy is a Croatian PUA from Zagreb who has spent almost 4 years in the game. He is also a respected poster in Mystery's lounge.

To see some of his stuff, search for posts by "croBadboy" on mASF or read one of the recent issues of Cliff's list.
Workshops are 1 on 1 for 3 days.
Each day consists of a 4-hour seminar and 5 hours of active in-field work.  Each night you will make 20-30 approaches with your teacher to get field experience. 1 on 1 training makes it possible to answer any questions you might have and cover the most important aspects of the game in detail. Teachings are tailored to your level in the game.
The basic structure of the workshop is:

Day 1:
Social intelligence/emotional intelligence
How to dress, peacocking vs. dressing style
Alpha-male bodylanguage secrets
Attitude (inner-game) and getting a good seductive voice
Difference between emotional and party type girls
Social dynamics in clubs (2sets/3sets/lonewolves), know your city
Openers (sets with males vs. only-girl sets)
Day 2:
Difference between PUing alone and with a wing
Different tools for getting attraction
Power of contrast (bad boy & nice guy in one)
Stealing their frames
Passing sh*t tests
Push-pull
Isolation tactics(2steps)
Day 3:
AMOG tactics (the AMOG handshake, group set AMOG destroyers)
Boyfriend destroyers
Passing LMR
Secrets of good s*ex
How to manage a good relationship
More bodylanguage secrets
How to turn Coffee dates into f*ck-fest in just 1 hour
How to turn a 0$ date into a time she will never forget
Difference between PUing in different places (small towns, big cities, colleges and the difference between certain clubs and the girls who go there)
Badboy says he can write a pages of what he does with guys because it's not just PU.  He opens their EYES to LIFE, to understand how to live successfully.
For more info, and where you can book your workshop, see Badboy's new website: http://www.badboylifestyle.com/

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Recently I received an email from Tony, the author of the Layguide:

Dear LayGuide reader,

Ever since I put LayGuide online in 1999, I have never e-mailed a single LayGuide member about anything. I have now decided to write you my first e-mail, since I think the information I am about to give you is important enough.

A while back I was asked to contribute my best tips to an upcoming book which would feature the best dating advice by experts from around the world. It was devised as a sort of competition between the top players to see, who can dish out the best techniques and strategies. The book is now ready and is called "Instant Attraction" - but instead of telling you that this compilation is the "holey-moley end-all best thing since sliced bread", I am now going to give you my step-by-step BRUTALLY HONEST review of the whole package, the authors it features and what I think of the advice they give.

So here goes.

The package itself is huge, it consists of a 430+ page main ebook plus bonus books and audio programs. You can download it all here: cliffslist.davidk.hop.clickbank.net

It certainly took me a while to read and listen through it all. I'll start with the main 430+ page ebook and will tackle the authors one by one in the order in which they are presented in the book.

1. Rion Williams - good general theory, though I would have preferred a bit more practical advice to go with his theories.

2. Marius Panzarella - good advice.

3. Matt Carbone - excellent advice! Good enjoyable writing plus his advice is right on the money. One of the highlights of the package!

4. Mark Geiger - absolutely horrible advice. His suggestions read like a checklist of things to be avoided. At times it felt like the whole thing was written by a woman since only women have been known to give comparably bad dating advice to men (I don't mean to be rude to all the female dating experts out there but unfortunately that has been my experience). Most of the suggestions can be labeled either as "how to be a wussy boyfriend" or "how to be a good husband", however neither have little to do with meeting and attracting women, which should be the focus of this book.

5. Giuseppe Notte - good theory and practical tips. Maybe a bit too many tips on what NOT to do, which is somewhat out of place in a setting where the author has been asked to provide only his very best tips, but solid advice nevertheless.

6. Tony Clink - Well that's me. I participated by contributing 28 of my best tips, most of which are NOT included in LayGuide and which I wrote specifically for this package. I personally think they rock. I hope you like them as well and will find them useful:)

7. Will Hicks - superb advice, he really knows his stuff. Highly recommended, another highlight of the program!

8. Mark J Ryan - good advice, lots of example stories.

9. Elena Petrova - She gives advice on how to date Eastern European and Russian women. At first I was taken aback, since I've never really been comfortable with the idea of dating someone from overseas (I do not believe in long distance relationships), especially from an economically less developed country. Then again, I do live in one of those Eastern European countries myself and date Eastern European women exclusively, so I tried to keep on open mind to see what this author had to say about the issue. To my surprise her advice is very sound and true. If you consider dating Eastern European women a possibility, I would highly recommend the advice. And even if you're not interested in dating women from abroad, there is still a lot of good general theory explaining the dating game in here.

10. Cucan Pemo - starts out with a lot of confusing New Age stuff about Expanding Vortexes of Energy Exchange, Channeling Cosmic Energies, Communicating with the Universe etc. Not my cup of tea really. If it works for some, great. But unless you are a New Age buff, you will find this a frustrating read. Compounding the problem is the fact that the author is a woman and women are notoriously bad at giving dating advice to men. The advice she's giving improves a bit towards the end and she even presents some good general theories here and there, but overall it is a tiresome read.

11. Carlos Xuma (audio program) - At the very beginning he takes solid ideas but seems to present them in a somewhat twisted manner. Things improve though and the latter part of the audio program offers solid, strong and applicable tips. Overall the info is well worth the listen.

And here are the bonus books:

* Giuseppe Notte - good general tips, though some are recycled from the main book and others are actual lovemaking tips, which I think are usually the scope of other kinds of guides, but that's just my personal opinion:)

* Simon Heong - his two bonus books offer good basic info.

* John Alexander - very strong good psychological information. Also good practical tips. Highly recommended, one of the highlights!

* Martin Merrill - good info on humour and making women laugh. He mostly plugs his own book on the subject, but also gives some good tips.

(Also some additional bonus books have been added recently and although I haven't read them yet, judging from the rest of the material I'm assuming they follow the same general theme of good advice).

So overall what do I think of the package? The advice by Matt Carbone, Will Hicks and John Alexander is absolutely top notch. I'd like to think that my tips are some of the best as well:) Also the advice by Mark J Ryan, Carlos Xuma, Giuseppe Notte, Rion Williams and Marius Panzarella is very good and the advice by Martin Merrill, Simon Heong and Elena Petrova is strong. On the flipside Cucan Pemo gives very confusing advice and Mark Geiger's advice reads like a checklist of things to avoid. As you can see though, I think the good far outweighs the bad and the package is definitely worth a download.

But check it out yourself, you can get it here: cliffslist.davidk.hop.clickbank.net

Regards,
Tony
www.layguide.com/cgi-bin/affiliates/clickthru.cgi?id=Cliffslist

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If you don't know what LayGuide is, then here's a quote to introduce it:

"I was happy with myself and my life. That is until an innocent phone
call from my book editor, who had stumbled across a document on the
Internet called the LayGuide. Compressed into 150 sizzling pages was the
collected wisdom of dozens of pickup artists who have been exchanging
their knowledge in newsgroups for nearly a decade, secretly working to
turn the art of seduction into an exact science. The moment I started
reading, my life changed. More than any other book or document - be it
the Bible, Crime and Punishment or the Joy of Cooking - the LayGuide
opened my eyes!"

Neil Strauss, "The Game"

LayGuide - the original inspiration for Neil Strauss to write "The Game"
- is still the most thourough and continually updated collection of the
best dating, attraction and seduction tips, strategies and techniques in
the world. The site will soon revert to a 1-year subscription model, but
if you hurry, you can still get the lifetime membership here:
www.layguide.com/cgi-bin/affiliates/clickthru.cgi?id=Cliffslist

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- Dr Alex Benzer of the Tao of Dating is holding two f r e e preview calls for his Tao of Persuasion teleseminar series. The course is on general persuasion with an emphasis on dating and business applications. To get call-in information, send a blank email to taoofdating-199783@autocontactor.com.

The beauty of The Tao of Dating Transformation Weekend seminar is that Dr. Alex will be leading the exercises, making sure you do them (and throwing some trancework in there to supercharge it). Most people go through an entire lifetime not having done an exercise like this. You don't have to be one of them. Here you can get more info about all that will go on at the weekend:
www.thetaoofdating.com/cmd.php?af=532745
The Tao of Dating Transformation Weekend is about taking that cosmic mallet to your own head and figuring this stuff out for yourself. Not because *Dr. Alex* is saying it's right, but because you're feeling it in your bones and it feels right *for you*. Your brain will figure out which it likes better -- the carrying around of past injury like a dead weight, or the lightness and ease of letting go. And the millisecond it figures out which one is more fun, it will never go back.
Like when you find a shortcut and never go the long way again.
Come join us in LA if you can. Seats are going fast, and Dr. Alex would like to see you there. It's going to be lots of fun.

The power is within you, Dr Alex.
You can write Dr. Alex at  dralex@thetaoofdating.com

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New book release: "Park bench Dating"
Are you currently meeting women as you go through your day? Do you know what to do on a date? This book should answer any question that you have in these situations and many more areas on how to meet women in the day time. Buy it between its release of January 7th and Valentines Day at http://www.ParkBenchDating.com and you'll be automatically entered to win a copy of "The Game" signed by Neal Straus, Mystery, and six other top PUA's.
Written by Art Malov, a master day game PUA who has been coaching men in New York on meeting and dating for many years. The book covers the psychological aspects of dating, ways to assure that the girl won’t be flake through out dating, how to get a solid number in less than five minutes at any time during the day and much more. Art refined his day game in one of the toughest city to meet women, now it’s your chance to learn how you can apply it as you go to work, doing your shopping or just walking down the street . Don’t just sarge intentionally, make meeting women an effortless second nature.

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Since I joined the community I've been hoping someone would come up with a web page that I could go to, each day, to find out what is new in the seduction community, but one never materialized. Rather than wait, I started one - DailySeduction.com.
Each day DailySeduction.com is updated with articles on what is happening in the community. Articles such as:
New product announcements.
News of upcoming seminars.
Dates of lair meetings.
Notices of newsletters being sent out.
Too often I have found out about seminars when it is way too close to the date to be able to get time off work, or the flights were now too expensive or full. I've even had seminars held in my own town that I din't even know about and which I would have loved to have attended.
And how often have you found newsletters mistakenly in the junk mail folder (I've found several of Cliff's mailing in there long after they were sent, put there by an over zealous junk mail filter)? When newsletters are mentioned on DailySeduction.com then if an interested reader hasn't received it they can know to go the to the sender's web page to read it and look around the sender's web site to find out more.
DailySeduction.com doesn't copy what is on the original web site, instead we write a one sentence article and include a link to the original web site so that it gets the traffic and the interested reader can then look at when else is on the original web site. (Take a look at DailySeduction.com and see how it works.)
DailySeduction.com does not currently plan to do reviews or interviews (others are already doing those), DailySeduction.com just carries today's news. There is no plan for an editorial, either, just the news.
If any of your readers have a new product they want to let the community know about, or if they plan on holding a seminar in the near future, or maybe they want to announce a lair meeting, then have them send an email to Editor@DailySeduction.com and I'll see about including an article it on DailySeduction.com.

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Want the AMAZING results of a weekend workshop but don't want to pay the absurd costs associated with other companies? Instructors Maverick & Orleans at Lifestyle Imaging are now introducing to the community the $350 Art of Attraction workshop. These will be held every two weeks. See videos of actual workshops! Inquire at http://www.lifestyleimaging.net

Reviews:
The Lifestyle Imagining workshop by Maverick and Orleans opened my eyes to areas in the game I never knew existed. After taking the workshop and being in-field Friday and Saturday night, my game has improved drastically. In comparison to the other bootcamps being offered for over 2 grand, a complete bootcamp for less than half the price didn't seem real; but I can say for certain that my game has improved more in 3 days than it has over the past 3 months.

The handbook which came with the course also offers very insightful information into Lifestyle Imaging. With personalized and dedicated instructors striving to make the most out of their students, you can be sure you'll see results... And fast.  -Mike

"I've always known about this stuff but this is the first time since I've been reading and talking about it, that I actually FEEL like a pick up artist" and I still do. This weekend was a TOTAL change, for me and my improvement. I used to go out on the weekend to try pickup because I wanted to get good. This weekend I want to do it because ITS SO MUCH GOD DAMN FUN. I can't wait to do it again. -Quicklips

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Grant Adams Net2Bed Ebook Special Offer

I often get questions about how to succeed with online dating, which presents a whole set of its own challenges...
 
When you're meeting a woman in person, you can use your voice, your body language, your facial expressions to communicate worlds of information.

But online, both in constructing a profile that is magnetic, and in your letters and IMs, it is all about the tool of language.

And there is no one better at making your language pierce to the core of the female heart than my friend Grant Adams. His Net2Bed Ebook arrived earlier this year with a bang. Grant combines a unique background in semiotics -- the art of sending signals -- with years of high level marketing writing. Additionally, as a successful Hollywood writer, he's written enough Lifetime and other women's movies that he, in his words, "can now ovulate on command."

The man knows women and more importantly, knows how to awaken their sensual inner selves with nothing but language.

His success in alluring women online reached a high point when he was selected by the star of an ABC television dating show to join her on the show - solely on the strength of his profile. They had never met, nor did he ask for it. But she scrolled through hundreds of profiles and exclaimed "Damn!" on national TV, "who's THIS guy?"

Grant's book is specifically designed to get YOU that "Damn! Who's THIS guy" reaction to your profile. Most guys' profiles are just dead words, invisible, skipped over by women time and time again. His system, by contrast, will teach you how to stand out online in every possible way. Some the techniques he teaches include

* How to subtly Create Trust so she moves towards you (rather than those other clunky guys online) with confidence and speed
 
* How to invite Her into a "dream state" about you with suggestive and imaginative imaging of your life, your sense of purpose and service
 
* How to embed sexuality without sex, through the use of sensually awake language so that SHE mentions sex first
 
* How to combine Electrically Contrasting Signifiers that will create an alluring puzzle she just cant let go of

* How to identify and "sing" to her idealized self, in a way that 99% of guys wouldn't know where to begin

* How to employ key emotional trigger words that most guys don't know, much less know how to use.

The list goes on and on.

Grant just updated his Net2Bed-Net2Wed ebook and recorded a new audio edition that is like a fat ring of magic keys to attracting women online. When I heard about what he'd done, I made a special arrangement with him that you've just got to check out - an offer better than he'll probably ever offer again.
 
Plus, I got him to give away part of the system to you for nothing. He's going to give to you -- just because I've referred you -- a copy of his "How to Read a Woman" teleseminar so you can discover how to find the hidden nuggets of information buried in a beautiful woman's profile.
 
It's a $37 recording, but yours free -- only IF you go get it right now.
 
cliffslist.net2bed.hop.clickbank.net
 
He's pulling the offer in less than a week, but I don't know exactly when. I think he's got a limit for how many he'll be giving away for free, and once he reaches it, the offer -- and the free teleseminar -- are gone.
 
Just make sure you get it now so that you don't get upset later.
 
 
P.S. One other thing you should know. . . whether you've been dating online for a long time, or have never visited an online dating site, Grant's system can improve your game. For every one girl in a bar or at a party, there are thousands online who are there to meet guys like you . . . IF you know how to stand out online.
 
Net2Bed/Net2Wed will show you how.  cliffslist.net2bed.hop.clickbank.net

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- Rion Williams has just launched a new website and training program. This new and controversial approach is that 'inner game' is no longer enough.  He offers a way to men who are sick of techniques (and know that it's still only 'acting') to actually 'become' fearless around beauty, women and power.  It's unlike anything else in the industry and you can find out more at: http://www.relationaldynamics.org

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The founders of Fastseduction.com, Jay and Ray (a.k.a. Formhandle and TokyoPUA) have co-produced a unique DVD set called “The Art of The Pickup” with Mindworks Productions of New Zealand.  The DVD set is an A to Z product that uses interactive video and professional narration to teach men everything they need to know to be successful with women, starting from the initial approach, going through contact closing, email and phone follow-up, second dates, insta-dates, getting her alone, setting up your place and exactly how to seduce her once she is there, and more.  Alternate scenes are included to show different techniques as well as how to deal with common types of resistance. 

“’The Art of the Pickup' is a clearly stated, highly specific, well thought out visualization of cutting edge seduction theory being put into practice.  I thought the explanation of ‘getting physical’ was particularly useful, as this is often one of the most difficult hurdles for seduction students.”

-Brad P.

Also included is a Foundation section which covers things like inner game, the secret psychology of women, basic hygiene and fashion advice and other essential information that every man must know.  Bonus features include powerful affirmations tracks, audio samples from live pickup seminars, and interviews full of great tips with experts such as dating coach Will H. and never before seen video interviews where both Formhandle and TokyoPUA share their secrets to success with women.

To find out more, visit http://www.artofthepickup.com/ref.cgi?product=aotp&bid=2&affiliate=Cliffslist

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Thundercat's New "Seduction Lair"
Get the latest News, Rumors, Tips, Tricks, & Analysis on the Pick-Up and Seduction community! The site is updated daily with lots of free and exclusive content.
Also a good way to keep up with things without having to navigate mASF. Drop By TSL today!  www.seductionlair.com

The Art of Approaching: Learn to meet ANY woman, ANY time, ANY where. The most difficult hurdle for most men to overcome is that of the initial Approach. This comprehensive eBook gives you over 35 unique Openers, as well as a step-by-step roadmap to help overcome your fear of approaching forever!
www.seductionlair.com/?afID=195&adc=1

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Robert "Magnum" Bednarek of "The Perfect Seduction - World's Premier Seduction Academy" proudly presents the new DVD-Set "Advanced Pick-Up Arts by Badboy".

Watch one of the most highly acclaimed Pick-Up-Artists in the world like you have never before seen him. Up close and personal. For the first time ever on DVD, Badboy will teach you all of his advanced secrets and techniques on how to seduce every woman out there. Experience a personal workshop just for you.

That will change your life.

The DVD is completely in English with German subtitles.

Check out the exclusive three-minute trailer and learn more about the exclusive "The Perfect Seduction - World's Premier Seduction Academy"-Live Workshops and other exciting products at http://www.theperfectseduction.com/

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Zan continues his quest to describe "natural game" in his new DVD series "The Way of the Natural". We all know men who are at ease in the land of women, who captivate them the moment they enter a room. What qualities do they possess that make these men irresistible to women? What sets them apart from you? More importantly, can it be learned? The answer may surprise you! Find out more at
www.enlightenedseduction.com

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Lance Mason Pick-Up 101 (pickup101.com/cmd.php?af=291292):
More than just workshops, PickUp 101 provides focused programs that begin weeks before you arrive with our home study materials, our 3-day skills intensive & field work training, and lasts long after you leave with follow up coaching calls and access to the PickUp 101 private forums.
PickUp 101 provides you 'warp-speed' training in a sequenced progression to take you from complete newbie to getting laid like a rock star with our proven step-by-step programs.
In our current programs you will learn the latest in:
- Attraction Skills
- Night Club Game
- Day Time Game
- Direct AND Indirect Methods of Approach
- Deep Rapport Skills
- Effective Day-2 Seduction Tactics
- Dressing For Your Pickup Artist Identity
- Multiple Relationship Management
- Advanced Pickup Tactics
- And much more...
Our programs are structured to build on each other and NEVER repeat material.
Our instructors stay on the cutting edge of what works, and we won't lock you into any one way of doing pickup. We find what works BEST FOR YOU, and provide you with all the training and coaching you need to succeed.
We also provide monthly free seminars in San Francisco, and free distance learning teleseminars.
Call us toll free for more information.
PickUp 101
1459 Powell Street
San Francisco, CA
pickup101.com/cmd.php?af=291292
1-877-PICKUP-9 (toll free)

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"The Brotherhood of Change is a meeting point for nice guys who've always wanted to be excellent men. A new approach to seduction, it emphasises the importance of compassion, honesty and genuine strength of character. We do not seek to be manipulative geniuses. We do not seek to define ourselves by our success with women. We seek to develop the things that are highest and best in humanity, namely kindness, empathy and respect, and couple them with the things that are highest and best in man, namely strength, loyalty and honour.

Developing skills of self expression is only as good as the self you wish to express.

We develop both. We seek to be amazing men. And as such, as an amazing man, you will incidentally, but inevitably, become irresistable to amazing women. We look in detail about the practicalities of sorting yourself out. We answer your questions. We take you seriously. Say whatever you want. Ask whatever you want. You will not be censored.

And besides, there's a wider world out there. At the Brotherhood of Change you can coordinate projects with other members in Art, Music, Entertainment, Creative Writing and Business. There's also a Miscellaneous Projects forum. Anything goes.

We also give specific forums to discuss any of the deeper issues that we face when we decide to change our lives.

But we keep it real. We keep it focused. We don't talk too much for too long.

We are men. We act.

Join us at http://www.brotherhoodofchange.com"

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New street seduction CD course from Croatia
mr.ice - Croatian seduction master finally released his seduction audio
CD "Streetmode".
Backed by 5 years of extensive research it contains step-by-step directions on how to seduce girls in normal - everyday environment.
Each part uses structured approach i.e. you are given an introduction that describes specifics of each seduction environment together with steps that are neccesary for you to feel comfortable before you start with the seduction.
You are then guided through the seduction process - from intial approach to conversation and later to kissing and having sex with a girl.
for more information:  streetmode.atspace.com

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Trevor Emdon got the T shirt on being dumped! But he also happens to be an NLP practitioner and a personal development coach and writer, so he was darned if he was going to be defeated by a little thing like being twice divorced and having more “ex’s” in his little black book than any self respecting man should have!
He set about figuring out a way of turning life around.  And he began where it hurt the most – with the uncomfortable probability that since HE was the common denominator in all his relationships, maybe it was him that needed to change!  Uncomfortable … only to a point, because then he realised something VERY exciting…
If HE was the one that needed to change, then HE was in control of his own romantic destiny!  And so are YOU!
That single thought sparked a revolution in his thinking, and led him to devise the powerful program in the pages of the ebook you could be putting to use in your life just minutes from now!
“How To Conquer Your Fear of Rejection & Start Dating Again!” packs a powerful punch.  And at $9.99 it’s the best value antidote to a broken heart or plain old fear of rejection.
It will restore your faith in Love, Life, Sex and Romance!  http://www.wizardofwisdom.com/conquerrejection.htm

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In conjunction with the PASSION FOR LIFE GROUP and for the first time EVER in Australia and fresh from my appearance at Cliff’s List Convention 2006 in Montreal, Canada I will be a major part of a two day seminar to be held in Sydney entitled “Men Get Hitched”.
 
The Passion For Life Group have a series of seminars and events coming up and this one is the first event for men. I will be one of the main presenters over the two days and along side me you will also hear from some experienced Dating Coaches/Pick Up Artists who have different styles and an abundance of tips, advice and strategies.
 
But most importantly, you will have the opportunity to learn from me - Nige 54 - as I present my latest dating & relationship advice for men. Highlights of my presentation at Cliff’s List Convention 2006 are currently available to view at http://www.nige54.com along with my recent appearances on SUNRISE and NOVA FM, which will give you a small taste of what to expect over the two days. The topics I will be speaking on include:

·        Inner Game
·        The Approach/The Pick Up
·        Being the Alpha Male
·        Successful Dating
·        Closing the deal
·        My WORLD FAMOUS real life examples and entertaining Q&A sessions
·        LIVE on-the-spot coaching
·        PLUS MUCH, MUCH MORE

Tickets for this ground breaking event are available exclusively from http://www.gethitched.net.au and they are selling fast!!!
If you have any questions - please email me or the team at “GET HITCHED”.
Best Regards,

Nige 54
www.nige54.com

P.S. For those of you from outside Sydney, travel & accommodation packages are also available from http://www.gethitched.net.au

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PUAtraining.com offers training events in London, England and in Scandinavia.  Our approach is quite different. We have a core system that we believe forms the basis of any pickup. It is simple enough to understand within 30 minutes. We then teach optional elements like  NLP, C&F, push-pull, etc. that can be added in based on your personality. 
We aim to teach guys to game like a natural and to have all our students end up with a style unique to them. We have broken down the componenents of natural game and have methods for teaching them.   
It seems to be working: Students have F-closed on our last 3 bootcamps! 
Come to our website, http://www.puatraining.com for free advice, to see pics of our girls, and to check out what we have to offer.

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Frank B. Kermit (aka Brother Kermit)  has launched an internet radio show Frank Talks Pleasures and Lifestyles, that will broadast on http://www.natradio.com that anyone with a computer can listen into for free.
For the next few weeks, Kermit will be interviewing various seduction gurus...
 
WEDNESDAYS
8 PM (Eastern Standand Time)
 
It's a LIVE Call In Show,
so if you would like to be on air and talk to Frank or his guests
Dial in Toronto, Ontario Canada: (416)-204-9723
Be one of ONLY a few thousand computer log ins to be able to listen and then to call in and ask our guests any questions you want!
 
If you are a seduction instructor, and you would like to be interviewed, please contact frank@franktalks.com

The Frank B Kermit Philosophy on Men, Women and Relationships. Everything Out of Her Mouth is a Test. In this book, Frank B Kermit goes in depth as to what a test is, what a woman tests for, and what her emotional needs are, in a thorough analysis.  Also in this book is an entire chapter as to why women end up with jerks and avoid the nice guys. Finally, Frank B Kermit issues true GOLD to his readers, coming up with at least 10 solid ways how a man can effectively address a woman's top emotional needs, pass her tests, and become her lover. A “TEST” is when a woman says or does something, specifically to evoke a reaction out of a man. It is a mechanism that a woman uses to judge his overall value as a man.  It is the predictor and basis for all sexual attraction and love she will have for a man.  Every test is designed to make her feel special when a man passes it (thus makes her your lover) , or makes her feel un-special if you fail it(thus turns her into your mother) . At least, that is how Frank B Kermit sees it. A woman can only fit into 1 of 2 roles in any man’s life; Mother or Lover. Within each test is an emotional need being communicated that MUST be addressed. A woman always tests because her instinct to mother is stronger than her instincts to have sex. The top 10 Emotional Needs of a Woman include the protection of her Reputation, making her FEEL a range of emotions, and catering to the little girl within. They also include the man's role as the dominant in taking responsibility for leading the relationship, making her feel secure to combat the fears of abandonment and earning her trust with his honesty; even if he know it will upset her. Finally comes her physical safety, his ability to handle her TRUE sexuality, and demonstrating he has high quality sperm for reproduction.  Lastly he must prove that he is not a closet homosexual. Pick up this book for 39.95$ US buy it at http://www.franktalks.com/frankbooks.html
Frank B Kermit is also the author of "From Loser to Seducer" gives lifestyle seminars for men and can be reached from via http://www.franktalks.com

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Archangel:
I've got something I think you & your readers would be interested in.
It's called NLP PLUS and you can see it here: nlp-plus.com
The entire system is based upon Breath, Body, Mind, Motion. It's a system of Confidence and Persuasion, and is meant to be easy to use with little memorization.
There's a demo lesson here: nlp-plus.com/Demo/ConfidenceDemo.asp
The Rapport structure is here:
nlp-plus.com/Demo/rapport.htm
The rapport structure is very simple, and extremely effective. All you have to do is the BBMM structure to gain rapport with someone.

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Juggler is back!
Charisma Sciences, led by longtime seduction authority Juggler, focuses on developing a man's natural game. Our clients usually
- aren't connecting with women despite all efforts,
- are sick of using routines and material that isn't their own,
- want to understand vibing skills that will work in *any* situation.
We are now limiting the size of our events to four students with two to three instructors (including Juggler, of course), because we're not just giving a guy some lines and throwing him out there. We get to know our clients and teach them social vibing techniques, based on their own personality traits, that apply to women, men and groups.
There's just no other way to prepare a guy for the breadth of interactions he's going to face in his life, seductive or otherwise.
It's the difference between flash game and solid game. We don't teach men how to impress their friends and thirty other people with some jokes or tricks - we teach them how to consistently get numbers that will not flake, and closes that aren't forced - by building a solid foundation for every interaction.
Our Charm School bootcamp runs Friday to Sunday in Ann Arbor, MI and
other cities worldwide. To learn more about what we teach, you should check out our website, where we have free weblogs, podcasts, compiled articles, and the three-year-in-the-making Juggler eBook. See http://www.1shoppingcart.com/app/?af=293089.  Looks very interesting!

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Announcement!

My name is Docandwriter and I am a lifestyle coach in Vancouver, B.C. I have been putting guys on the path to becoming natural and direct seducers through http://www.seductionboard.com and am proud to say that I've never had a failure, I've never had a guy who didn't get "it".

My approach to seduction is different, however, first, although I prefer the natural and direct method, I don't believe you should limit yourself to one method of seduction (be it indirect, direct, or natural). I've been out with some of the best guys, both in and out of the community, and I can tell you that every single one of them does a mixture of all three, despite what they may tell you.

And I believe that the game is first played by yourself. The more you like yourself and the better you develop your self image and internal beliefs, the better your results will be in the long run. Did you know that statistically we end up with partners who are similar to ourselves in self esteem, attitudes, and personality? It makes sense doesn't it, that you should first fix and enable what is on the inside first before working on the outside and thus this is my approach to coaching and what I do is different from most other guys.

Be sure to go to http://www.seductionboard.com/calgarystampede.html and enjoy your summer.

Thank you for reading,

Docandwriter

PS: To find out more about myself (Docandwriter), you can listen to my forthcoming podcasts on my website.

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Joe Flow:
I'm starting a new coaching program designed to speed the process of overcoming social fears and self imposed limitations. So many guys out there, and in the community in particular have a lot of bad habits and childhood mannerisms that they carry on to their adult life. These come from unconscious beliefs and memories that run their lives. I believe working to improve these issues should be tackled from both sides. On the one hand, I'm going to talk to guys about their belief system and self images. On the other, I'll comment on different things that they do, like body language, voice inflections, and facial expressions that betray these beliefs. I believe that is the best way to bring these hidden beliefs up to the surface which is the most important and most difficult step on the way to dealing with them.
My program is going to be very cheap for the time being, at least until I get some good testimonials to back me up. Since this is coaching and not a "weekend of partying", you have to live in or close to Manhattan. I'm going to have one hour long meetings in which we talk, walk around, do basic communication exercises, and later on, approach and talk to women ("day game"). After every meeting, you will get a few simple, or not so simple body language and mental exercises and "missions" that you will have to carry out before the next time we meet, in addition to new things to keep in mind about how you come across and communicate and about what goes on in your head.
If you are interested, email me at free2bu@fastmail.fm, and I will send you a short questionnaire to find out whether or not I think I can help you. If yes, the first meeting will be FREE, and no commitment on your part will be required. After that, for the time being, every meeting will cost $50. I make no flashy promises. I'm aiming for a PROCESS, not a magic bullet.

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Giuseppe Notte:
hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/seduction - Giuseppe Notte's ALL ABOUT WOMEN: The Encyclopedia Of Seduction EOS is a new product covering the topic of seduction from A to Z. This 100 pages e-book is ideal both for newbies and more experienced guys willing to improve weaker points of their game. The book is split into 6 bigger parts:
1. Being a woman  Learn how women think and understand the "logic" behind their actions.
2. How to be the Man  Part two is about the attitude. You can attract women just with your presence, by becoming a "real Man". Avoid the most common mistakes men make and learn valuable tips on body language, dressing and improving the overall quality of your life.
3. The first step: meeting girls  Overcome your fear of approaching women and open girls anytime, anywhere without excuses. With the powerful techniques in the book, you won't have to memorize any "canned" routines or NLP patterns.
4. Second step: from the first date to having sex   Get from the first date to the girl's bed easily. Don't be stressed anymore on when and how to kiss your girl or where to take her. You will learn step-by-step instructions for each phase.
5. Third step: keeping a relationship   The secrets of keeping a long, rewarding relationship, or multiple relationships at the same time. You choose.
6. Sex   Overcome your problems, improve your sexual life, become multi-orgasmic and turn into an irresistible lover.
For more information, visit hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/seduction.

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CEIC: Sickboy and Playboy (Mike and Stephen from the DYD interview series) have launched "Cutting-Edge Image Consulting" (http://www.ceimageconsulting.com). They offer exclusive, one-on-one programs in New York City. Also, they offer a 7-Day Audio Program which covers the following topics:
- A groundbreaking 3 point structure that serves as a roadmap to any successful interaction.
- The two most powerful qualities women are drawn to, and how you can learn to use them with shocking effect
- We go over the subtleties of female psychology and why it is absolutely necessary to do THREE things when meeting a new woman…do you know what they are?
- We disclose the secret of "hooking" - what it means and how to do it with shocking efficiency.
- We uncover a key language skill that can build fascination in any woman, ANYTIME. This skill is critical when building connections, which lead into relationships.
- Devastatingly effective conversational openers and lines.
- How to bait ANY woman into a conversation so that within minutes she is dying to know YOU.
- We list the EXACT places to go where you can meet women with the greatest probability of success. Stop wasting your time in the wrong venues for YOU.
- We teach you how to be the center of attention and the life of the party within SECONDS of meeting complete strangers.
- Learn which conversational topics are fascinating to women. Never be boring again.
- We provide a clear definition of relationships, and why some work and some don't. We give you clear-cut ways to improve all of your relationships TODAY.
- There are three different ways to engage women in conversation when you are socializing. These three are based on the three different environments that exist socially. Do you know what they are? We teach you on Day II of the program.
- We teach you the FASTEST way to begin conversations in ANY environment.
- Learn how to counter the most common rejection phrases from women - NEVER be shot down again.
- We outline the aspects of a successful mindset, and we then lead you through a clear and concise exercise to attain that attitude for yourself.
- MASTER the art of flirting.
- We instantly improve your body language and tonality with simple, clear advice never heard anywhere before.
- We give you a SIMPLE way to ALWAYS be relaxed and comfortable before approaching and engaging women in conversation.
- We have an entire CD which guides you through a step-by-step process for creating a timeline that helps you get back on track in EVERY area of your life. We have a solid system for bringing you in touch with what success means to you, and then developing a timeline - a plan - for success. Our aim is to help your dreams become a reality.
Check out their website today at: http://www.ceimageconsulting.com

Here are some recent seminar testimonials for CEIC. 

In short, our work focuses on a man’s “image”, meaning his
presentation not only in style and fashion, but also in word and
energy (vibe).  The latter are far more challenging and compelling
to me.  The greatest hurdles to success is our INTERNAL
framework of images of ourselves and others.  I prescribe no
shortcuts to success, but I do outline a fairly rigorous and demanding
practice for guys to rewire these beliefs in order to be empowering
and healthy.  We DO cover the essentials on approaching, flirting,
teasing, storytelling, frame control etc – we have streamlined this
discussion to only include the imperatives.  Our belief is that without
a very solid understanding of female/male energy dynamic and
psychology – stemming from years of evolutionary research and study –
a guy stands very little chance of REAL understanding which can lead
to healthy, sustainable relationships.

In other words, time to step into the REAL fire…

I’ll let the students take it from here.  Here are views from two guys who
attended the December program:

“Imagine this: you're a regular guy... maybe late 20s, 30s, or even 
40s.  You're smart enough but you're not Einstein. Neither are you 
Tom Cruise, but you also see guys who are no smarter, richer, or 
better looking having an easier time with women. Maybe you're someone 
who really wants a monogamous relationship with a woman, but you 
don't want to just "settle." You want someone terrific, a woman who 
"gets you," who you think is really sexy and, just as important, 
finds you really sexy. You want to be able to spark the desire that 
serves you, and inspires other people. Or maybe you're someone who 
thinks you'd like multiple relationships, but while you can imagine 
it, making it happen is as elusive as water in the desert. Well, it 
strikes me that Stephen and Michael are teaching skills that are 
relevant, memorable, and easy to use, rather than asking you to 
memorize series of monologues or even gestures,

Without giving away their secrets, let's just say that you walk in on 
Saturday. You're curious, a bit nervous, and also just wondering what 
you'll gain. You walk out on Sunday with one over-riding sense. 
Excitement. Because you have a tool set that is easy to put into 
action. That skill set is not based on changing yourself. It's based 
on tapping into who you are as a man. It leverages your own 
experiences, stories, and inclinations. You work on creating a vision 
of the type of women you genuinely desire, and also the type of man 
you want to be in the world. In a sense, these guys collaborate with 
you to build your own dream house, helping map out the blueprint to 
actually construct it. Only what you're building is not a house. It's 
the best aspect of who you are. And it's no dream. It's for real. 
Stephen and Michael work through that design and construction process 
with you, as coaches as well as teachers.

The process teaches "smarts," but it's smarts about who you are, can 
be, and want to purse. They also lead you through a series of 
exercizes to put all that into action. Yes, it's challenging. But 
it's also a lot of fun. I saw the results immediately that first 
night hanging with another member of the class. I have read a bunch 
of material from other experts, and can say honestly that these guys 
are up to those standards. They're original, doing more than 
rehashing what exists, and giving their own perspective in ways that 
are relevant and actionable. They're also fun to work with and, as I 
mentioned to them from a marketing standpoint, they could be charging 
a bunch more for their workshops. It's a great way to propel a guy 
forward.

JF
NYC”

Or:

“I'd like to praise Stephen of Cutting Edge Image Consultants for
a great two day seduction workshop last weekend (Dec 10th & 11th)
It was a thoughtful, concise and comprehensive program for meeting
women, having successful first and second dates, and keeping them
interested for the long term.
 
His approach is very organic.  He's developed a way for men to be
genuinely charming all while being their real selves.  One of his many
techniques is called Baiting. It's a highly effective tool when approaching
women cold and gets many more positive responses.  Baiting allows
you have plenty of interesting things to say to a woman you've never
met before without having to resort to corny pickup lines and rote
exercises.  The last half of Sunday was a great education in clothing
and fashion tips and how it can powerfully aid the seduction process.

Going one step further his teachings have a healthy component to it. 
They are evocative of David Deida, Michael Meade and Robert Bly
(who are the leading authors about men's issues) and encourage a
man to find and nurture his true masculinity. In fact he believes that
success with women is hinged on a man moving toward his
best self in all areas of his life such as health, finances, spirituality and
relationships.  Try just one of his programs and I guarantee he'll be
your favorite seduction coach.

Although the seminar stands on it's own, it was a great complement
to the one-on-one training I'd received two months ago ("Afternoons with Stephen".) 
I got a chance to digest more deeply his overall philosophy and techniques.”
 
JC
NYC

We have a page solely devoted to the program where you can read more about it, and sign-up.
Here is the link:

http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/seminar.html

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Scot McKay is a dating coach in San Antonio, TX and founder of X & Y Communications, a one-stop-shop for dating resources. Sign up for his free newsletter at: http://www.deservewhatyouwant.com/.
He is the author of the book “Deserve What You Want”, which focuses on becoming the best partner you can be NOW instead of sitting around “waiting for someone to come along”. Check it out here: http://www.dating-advise.us/
His next book, “Cook For Your Date” uniquely combines culinary tips and recipes with a wealth of strategy designed to help you maximize attraction and overall chemistry when planning a romantic evening for two. (http://www.romantic-dinner.com/).
He also has How To Manage Your Wildly Successful Dating Life (http://www.wildsuccess.net/).
In addition, Scot has produced the world’s first audio program designed specifically to increase success with women for men who are shorter than average. (http://www.nottooshort.com/)
His latest venture, DateToOrder (http://www.datetoorder.com/), bridges the gap between profile-based dating sites and matchmaking services. DateToOrder helps you inexpensively and effectively cut down on BAD first dates…dramatically.
Scot and his fiancée Emily host the popular podcast series “X & Y On The Fly” which is now listened to on six continents. You can subscribe for FREE at feeds.feedburner.com/xyonthefly .
Coaching sessions and online profile overhauls famously come with a 100% money back guarantee. Scot makes it a point to be refreshingly approachable and available may be reached via email at scot@datetoorder.com or via worldwide voice-over-IP on Skype as “scotmckay”. Initial consultations via email or Skype are free of charge.

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http://www.songsofseduction.com

Over the years my bandmates and I developed songs using NLP that helped steer the women in the audience where we wanted them to go. We found that NLP combined with music had an incredible intensifying effect, and we learned how a lead singer could zero in on a woman in the audience while crooning certain melodic suggestions and have her tranced out and doggie-dogbowl right in the middle of the dance floor. In this way we learned to lead the women in the audience at our shows exactly where we wanted them to go, and helped them to get past limiting things like boyfriends, girlfriends, and last call. Later these songs were modified and recorded on an album called Songs of Seduction. New songs were also written and added with various NLP programmers and PUAs I've gotten to know over the years, to create a total seduction journey for whoever is listening to it play.
I'm sharing all this with all of you to let you know that my product, Songs of Seduction, is NOT something that should be considered in competition with David DeAngelo, that Game guy, or Ross Jeffries. It's not a method in itself. Sure, it will up the odds that you'll get laid on a date or "coffee meeting" even if you're an  AFC.
Happy customers on ebay have told me some stories that I'm not even sure I believe.  But you still have to entice a woman to even spend 45 minutes listening to an album with you in the first place. You still have to have at least some form of rapport or attraction going with her- she can't be a captive audience. And you still have to have the balls to make the close.  But the IS an extremely powerful tool. It does exactly what Jeff Spicolli claimed that Led Zeppelin IV does in Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Only it's not magic- it's science and street wise persuasion skills. Several hundred happy customers and a flawless feedback score on ebay prove that.
Songs of Seduction can give you an edge in your seduction endeavor. Sometimes, it can do all the work for you, but it's not a magic bullet. In the hands of a PUA, it can be downright dangerous. In the hands of a lazy old PUA like me, in can be quite convenient. That's right, sometimes I just don't feel like BOTHERING with all the cool
Casanova and rasputanesque things I know. Sometimes it's just tiresome, and I wanna sit on the couch watching football until it's time for the ol' in/out.  Glad there's a CD that can turn her on for me.
We don't charge a lot for our products because once you've tried them, we KNOW you'll be a return customer for SOS Volume II in the summer of 2007. In fact we're selling it for the price of a regular music CD on ebay right now, and you can check out a few songs at http://www.myspace.com/songsofseduction 
We've had over 200 happy sucsexful customers so far, and it just may be the edge you need to make your seductions flow with ease!

A full rock music album created for the purpose of seduction is finally available! These 10 songs have been arranged to create rapport, capture and lead her imagination, start the attraction process, and ultimately GET HER IN THE SACK! State of the art NLP combined with hypnotic but rockin' music leads her through the seduction process for you. Best of all, it looks like a regular pop-rock album and sounds like the best alt rock on the air! The lyrics have been painstakingly written by NLP programmers, and the music was recorded by world-class recording artists, using the latest in persuasion techniques together with rhythmic emotional influence technology.
Get yours today, and get laid tonight!

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http://www.datinghelpformen.com is a website designed by a guy who at one time had limited success with women. He posts what he learned there, from his mistakes and errors to his successes. They will be dealt with step by step so that you can repeat his achievement without replicating the miscalculations. This site is for beginners but if any of you pros would like to join the site and help out that would be great (and of course in return those of you with products will get great link placement)

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Check out the 'supermarket of seduction' at http://www.seductionpro.com.  Lots of interesting products to look into.

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Impact Interaction (http://www.impactinteraction.com) @ London
Angel Caido, RyobI and Lockstock have been running Workshops and Seminars in London since the beginning of the year. The workshops are small in size (trainer : student ratio of 2:1 as max), so students get personal attention on sticking points.
The workshops include:
- Basejump: For approach newbies who need to get internal game and basic attraction skills in gear
- Field Interaction: To perfect your bar/ club and street performance
- Solid Game: Everything good except lots of flakes? Few end results? End to end game sticking points covered…

For more information go to http://www.impactinteraction.com or contact them @ contact@impactinteraction.com.

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To reach Cameron Teone and Seth Parker please go to cliffslist.teone1.hop.clickbank.net or you can email Cameron at CameronTeone@yahoo.com

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Ranko:
Want to leave a stunning impression when you see her: on the street, at work, on a party?
Then come to The Instant Date 101 Workshop by http://www.attractanddate.com/.
3 days of both day and night action
We made a special newsletter for those interested in workshops, where we teach you by Video Clips
the workshop secrets: 30 min of video content, several video testimonials and more! Even if you can’t
make it to the workshop the clips will be a great help to you!
www.attractanddate.com/cmd.php?af=484655
Watch Ranko (aka Shark) explain stopping her and the famous "I like you” opening line and dating her.

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Flirting Weekend London -
Learn how to develop immense pulling power in every aspect of your life!
“Flirting isn't just about impressing the opposite sex and picking up a partner, it's about getting on with people”, says Peta Heskell, the founder of Britain's only Flirting Academy. “Great flirts do it with everyone -flirt that is!” Flirting is a way of interacting with people that makes it fun and easy to connect with them and makes them want to be with you. Become super sexy, develop your conversation power, boost your confidence, courage and self esteem and find out how to approach strangers and feel good. You may be looking for love, want to make more friends or improve the way you interact with people in general.
Flirt with life. Flirt for love. Flirt for fun. Flirt for success.
Please call 02476 541 164 and speak to Gerry and Jenn who will be happy to answer any questions and  take your bookings ;-)) 
For more information about the Flirting Weekend, contact LifeTalks - tel. 0117 973 1010, email info@lifetalks.co.uk or visit http://www.lifetalks.co.uk
For more information about the Flirting Weekend in London and other workshops with Peta, contact The Attraction Academy tel. 0700 4 354 784 or
visit http://www.attractionacademy.com/
Peta Heskell - Director of Possibility
Flirting and Attraction Academy
Develop immense Pulling Power in all areas of your life
www.attractionacademy.com

CONTACTS
Tel: 0700 4 354 784
Talk Talk: 0208 979 2994
Tel Intl: + 447770 741 323
Mobile/Cell: 07770 741 323

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Have you ever asked yourself...
* What does it take to make a woman feel totally comfortable making out with me - even if she barely knows me?
* How do I get women to WANT to sleep with me? After all, what good are all those "bedroom techniques" I learned if I don't even know how to get her back to my bedroom in the first place?
* Why do women melt around some guys, but they are totally unresponsive to me? What do they have that I don't?
Wouldn't it be nice if you knew a guaranteed way to "get physical" with any woman you go out with? Have you ever been on a date with a woman, and wondered *how* you can start "making out" with her? (by making out, I mean kissing, hugging, holding hands, etc.)
Jason King has just released a not new report that will teach you everything you need to know about getting *close* to a woman on a date.
Jason is an absolute master at making out with a woman on the first date. Whenever he goes out with a woman, he seems to put them under some kind of "love spell", and they want to make out with him more and more as the date progresses.  By the end of the date, the women usually invent all kinds of excuses to invite him back to their place.
There is NO other person out there who is teaching these skills. If you've ever wanted to learn how to make out with a woman on the FIRST date... not weeks or months later... you MUST check out his site.
www.MakeoutMastery.com/a/cliffslist.html

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Step by Step Threesomes
Hey, check out Suzy Bauer's site and her e-book (we need a review, so someone get this and let us know what you think) about creating threesomes.  Suzy is an attractive married bi-sexual woman who says that her e-book will show you what to do to create threesomes, how to overcome resistance and how no one can tell you how to do this better than a woman.  http://www.stepbystepthreesome.com/

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"Seduction Tips-Seduce the woman for you today"
www.pmmarketing.org/seductiontips.htm

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Maximillian Hell:
I have a PU journal up on livejournal. Right now it's mostly just a record of my sarges--but comments are welcome.
www.livejournal.com/users/maximillianhell

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Visit these sites (and give me your comments on their products):
www.sexualrapportmodeling.com/jump.php?a=2350
www.macktactics.com/
www.seductionformula.com
www.thejamesmethod.com/
www.seductiondvd.com/
www.becomeaplayer.com/
www.SeductionGuide.net/
www.sensualitysecrets.com/
www.puamedia.com/main/
www.datinghelpformen.com
www.lady-killing.com
www.ladymagnet.com
Gunwitch has also entered the commercial game.  Go to:  hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/gunwitch
cliffslist.godofsex.hop.clickbank.net

Someone needs to check this site and its products out also:  http://www.cliffslist.com/expiredlink

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Return of The Bishop
After a 4 year absence, Bishop is back with his latest seduction product called, "The Fire of Seduction."
Now, no matter who you are, there is way to be NATURALLY seductive around women! There is a way to move past whatever has ever stood in your way! There is a way to at last get the kind of seduction success that has so far eluded you. That way, is "The Fire of Seduction."
In fact, Bishop is SO confident about his latest creation, he's giving a  FULL YEAR MONEY BACK GUARANTEE!! You have everything to gain!
Here's just a sample of what awaits you:
* The Four Horsemen of Seduction -
Finally! The simple 4-step process that makes ALL seduction work!
* 'Phanting -
This strangely named chapter AT LAST reveals how to tell what kind of woman you're approaching, BEFORE YOU EVEN SAY A WORD TO HER!
* Advertising to Women -
Learn what advertisers have spent BILLIONS on to influence women, and how YOU can use it in seduction!
* Detached Presence -
Simply put, it's how to be miles away and STILL have her suddenly think about you, as if you're in the room with her!
* Tests, Games, and Positioning for Power -
The “behind her walls” secrets on the things she is trying to test you on, and you likely never even knew it! (Plus, how to use it right back on her!)
* The Positive Side of "Let's Just Be Friends" -
How being "just friends" can actually ACCELERATE your seduction success!
* Thinking Differently -
This chapter takes some commonly held beliefs about what it takes to seduce women, and shatters it!
There is so much more that awaits you, in this 330 page e-book, with nearly 7 HOURS OF AUDIO FILES!
And remember, there is a FULL YEAR MONEY BACK GUARANTEE, so you have every reason to BUY RIGHT NOW!
Bishop's new site can be visited by going here:  payloadz.com/go/jump?id=225764&a=purchases@new-alpha.com&merch_id=40069&aff_id=10811

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Daniel: 
If you are looking for a wing and you are a guy from Romania, you can check on our forums at http://www.seductierapida.ro/forum and you might find one.

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Carlos Xuma:
Time is running short for all of us, no matter how young or old you are. Don't waste precious years learning by trial and error (and most likely not at all). Get the information on how to improve your dating life TODAY. Make the changes you need to make to get the love, s*ex, and relationships that you want and DESERVE to have.  coldfusion.affiliateshop.com/AIDLink.cfm?AID=068971&Redirect2=r.php/24
 
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A few sites to check out:
www.becomeaplayer.com

Mike PilinskI is the author of "Without Embarrassment: The Social Coward's Totally Fearless Seduction System"... a unique method of meeting girls that will have you making up for wasted time spent living in shy-guy hell from the very first moment you test it out. Check it Out Here => http://www.highstatusmale.com/.

David Wygant (http://www.whatsyourexcuse.com & http://www.mydatingagent.com).

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Erick Kand has a new website that showcases Hypnosis Stage Shows for fun and entertainment: http://www.HypnosisEvents.com

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The Foundations of Seduction  
Hi, you know something? When it comes to seductionhey, when it comes to ANYTHING--how you feel has a huge impact on the results you get. But the way you feel doesn’t have to be determined by your surroundings, your expectations, others’ behavior, or the tides and stars. You can guide your own feelings. By doing so, you can adjust and enhance your results. You can replace frustration with the satisfaction of tangy, blood-red, salty-sweet resolve. When you can change the way you feel, you can change what you experience… and what you encounter… and then the world stands revealed as something you yourself partially create. Sometimes, to begin claiming the victories you deserve, all you need is a simple little tool: a way of channeling your own emotions. A way of tapping your inner fire. A way of taking that inner fire, and letting it melt your external obstacles. A way of changing all that you feel, about all that you experience. Of course, you may not need or want such a tool. For some, the ability to guide and drive one’s own emotional experience is pretty basic stuff. Some people shrug off rejection, feel wonderful almost all the time, and easily attain their goals. If that’s true for you, and you don’t think you can add to your abilitywell, you may be right. In that case, my new CD may not be for you. On the other hand, should you want a tool meant to ease the transition to seductive success… to productive success… to any kind of success, maybe this new CD can be of use to you. It’s called “Foundations of Seduction”. You can get it for $29.97 plus $5 Priority Mail s/h, by going here: hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/sexualkey  Just enter “$34.97” into the FlexPay box and then email me at info@sexualkey.com with your shipping address and a note that you’ve ordered “Foundations of Seduction”. If you’re outside the U.S., please add an additional $5 for shipping. Have fun! JD hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/sexualkey

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"FREEDOM WITH WOMEN" SEMINAR DATES
Ron Louis and David Copeland have been doing several boot camp style one-on-one courses.
To find out more about the "Freedom with Women" seminar, go to http://howtosucceedwithwomen.com/htg/index.html

HOW TO SUCCEED WITH WOMEN Ron Louis and David Copeland have their Mastery Program Tape series available. It has some very good stuff on it and that, in combination with other pieces that you can pick up here and from the other products mentioned can be a help.  For those who are just starting out learning how to deal with women, this is an excellent basic daily course to take you through the process of dealing with women. For those who are more advanced, you should pick up a few good ideas from this set of tapes.  http://howtosucceedwithwomen.com/htg/index.html
1. You can receive a series of audio programs from the "Freedom With Women" seminar. This audio is not available anywhere else!
2. You'll get valuable email summations of these audio programs to "lock in" the learning and help you take action.
3. You'l get other special email lessons from the "Freedom with Women" seminar, all about finally having real freedom with the women you desire.
To get the free course, go to http://www.howtosucceedwithwomen.com/workshops/free-audio.html

For more info, get in touch with them through their site, http://howtosucceedwithwomen.com/htg/index.html

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Advanced Macking:
In case you want a step by step guide on how to get into one-night stands, check out Anthony Berger's Advanced Macking manual. What makes it unique is that it is engineered towards making it happen the same night you meet them. To learn how to persuade women back to your pad, check out his site: http://www.advancedmacking.com/Discount.htm

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Michael:
If you want to improve both your pick up game and your understanding of women on a deeper level, you've got to come out to my Dating Wizard Live Seminars in Toronto. It is two FULL days of non-stop IMMERSION - including a live pick-up component - giving you a whopping,eye-opening insight into how to be successful with women on a whole new level.
And if you haven't downloaded my eBook, "The Dating Wizard: Secrets to Success with Women", then that's the place to get started.
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FREE HYPNOSIS MINI-TUTORIAL
The UltimateSeduction Yahoo group, at groups.yahoo.com/group/UltimateSeduction/ is sponsoring a free one-month mini-tutorial on Conversational Hypnosis. This tutorial, presented by the hypnotist Archangel, is sectioned off into five parts:
1. Trance Words
2. Rapport
3. Persuasion Anchoring
4. Pacing, &
5. Leading
Although less than halfway through, members are reporting some highly entertaining, and some startling, success stories. The UltimateSeduction group has the advantage of having more than a few women on-list, enabling members to get some very pointed straight talk on their techniques. There is nothing to memorize - only a handful of very simple, and very effective, techniques. The group is gaining about 200 new members a week and is lightly moderated.
Anyone may join the tutorial at: groups.yahoo.com/group/UltimateSeduction/

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