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THIS IS CLIFF'S PRIVATE LIST, A F*R*E*E* E-MAIL RELATING TO SEDUCTION
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CLIFF'S LIST UPDATES:
We continue to work on getting the 2006 Cliff's List Convention DVDs out. The main delay right now is that we have to get the www.cliffslistconvention.com website up and operating in order to take and process orders and this is coming along. It should happen very shortly. We are also working on a complete upgrade to www.cliffslist.com which is planned to be a very exciting and dynamic site filled with a lot of surprises. We also have some spectacular ideas for the next Cliff's List Convention, but that will have to wait at least until the 2006 DVDs are out. We will be restocking the 2005 DVDs as well. Keep watching this space for all the latest news.
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LAST MINUTE ANNOUNCEMENT: MONTREAL LAIR Meeting Sunday July 1 at 8 pm will have special guests Steve P and Johnny Soporno. Email cliff@cliffslist.com if you wish to attend.
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Correction: The email address for the Belgium and Netherlands Lair, otherwise referred to as the NL Lounge has been corrected in the Lair section of this email. The Lair listings only appear in the online version of this email, which you can see at www.cliffslist.com, click Letter, and then scroll down until you get to the Lair section. The correct address is nllounge@dutchseduction.com.
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Scot McKay, X & Y Communications (www.thechickwhisperer.com):
GETTING "BEAT BY A GIRL"
There’s a lot of talk about "approach anxiety", and for good reason.
It has been optimistically estimated that over 80% of all men are terrified of approaching attractive women they have ever met. And let’s face it: without overcoming this fear it’s all but impossible for a man to experience any success whatsoever in meeting great women, let alone attracting and keeping them.
Most of the information I've read on the subject centers around teaching men to sack up and "get over it", using any manner of Jedi mind tricks designed to help us "deal with rejection", "visualize success", use "indirect openers", etc. But I've read relatively little on the subject that dives beyond the surface of the issue.
Most of us are or were at some point in our lives afraid to approach women. Instead of being given a pep talk, I'd rather know WHY we as men are almost universally affected by this, and HOW we fell into this trap. From that position of understanding, it makes sense that we can better figure how to dig ourselves out.
And it is absolutely a trap. It’s an irrational fear for a man to be "afraid" of women. After all, most of us as men are not catatonic basket cases sucking our thumbs in a fetal position when it comes to other aspects of our lives. We play football in high school. We go downhill mountain biking, surf hurricanes, get concealed weapon licenses, street race muscle cars, ask customers for high-dollar sales orders, train pit bulls, get full-sleeve tattoos, do third-gear wheelies on GSXR-1000s and remove offending garden snakes from backyard sheds. Some of us even DAYDREAM about things like making high-pressure 20-foot putts for birdie on the 18th green at Augusta National.
Yet, we cannot bring ourselves to go talk to an interesting woman at a bar, an airport or even in our own dormitory at college.
To further underscore how bizarre this phenomenon gets, I remember running with a crowd primarily composed of United States Marines back when I lived in Yuma, Arizona. We'd park our sport bikes somewhere to grab a bite, see an attractive woman and NOT ONE OF US would talk to her. We’re talking about guys who had VOLUNTEERED to risk their lives for this country, and furthermore had just finished a pavement blistering canyon run five minutes before.
What is going on here?
Here it is: it’s not the WOMEN themselves we are afraid of. It’s our own egos that hamstring us. Allow me to elaborate.
We as men are competitive beings. When we’re out with our buddies it’s one contest after another. That’s all well and good, and we like it that way. But deep in the soul of every man is a mortal repulsion against getting "beat by a girl". Whether women like it, understand it, think it’s silly and/or can deal with it is actually irrelevant. It’s a fact. The archetypal shame associated with it is wired into our XY genetic code.
Remember back in sixth grade when the girls were maturing and the boys were, well…still looking like little boys? Remember in gym class how some of the girls could run faster and throw harder? It was a drag, wasn't it? When we as guys got older that problem took care of itself for the most part…except in two notable areas: the business world and, of course, the dating world.
In the business world women are going to get promotions and ascend to positions of power with or without any input from YOU in particular.
If a woman "beats" you in that arena, you can either accept it and stick around or find another job.
But dating is another story. The "competition" is mano-a-mano when it comes to approaching a woman. And THAT, my brethren, is where we as men let our egos betray us. We tend to see approaching women as a COMPETITION. If you or I approach a woman with this mindset, we believe someone is going to WIN and someone is going to LOSE. If she REJECTS us, we lose and we've been "beaten by a girl"! And even if we DO get a smile and a phone number, if she doesn't answer the phone when we call her we STILL are getting "beat by a girl". Given this situation, it’s a no-brainer to see why most men don't even bother to talk to women AT ALL.
The risks to ones psychological well being are just too great. Getting "beat by a girl" is more painful than crashing and burning anywhere else.
So what’s the solution?
The discussions I've heard about reframing the approach so as to involve a QUALIFICATION PROCESS are the closest to hitting the mark. Our problem as guys typically is that we've PRE-QUALIFIED women before we've even met them based on their looks and/or how they appear to handle themselves from afar. Having already decided we like a woman before even meeting her, the insidious "contest" is on. Every time.
Instead of approaching women with our approval already sewn up, we need to start putting women to the test in the same manner they famously test us.
Men are typically the CHASERS and women the CHOOSERS in this society as a result of how men tend to view this stuff. Men who deserve what they want and who refuse to "settle" need to start raising the bar, refusing to offer up immediate approval to women we meet until they have proven to be as attractive AFTER we meet them as they were BEFORE we met them. Women instinctively evaluate us when we approach them, as we know all too well.
It’s time for us to start doing the same which we have every right to do as fellow human beings.
And look what happens in that case. The "competition" factor has magically been lifted from the scenario. If we haven't yet reached our own conclusions when we approach a woman, she really can't "reject" us…or "beat" us, as it were. She can only pass or fail our own evaluation process. And as any man who conducts himself with dignity and refuses to "settle" knows, women who are rude and/or quick to dismiss us thereby fail the qualification process. The principle at play is much the same as when a pushy or otherwise socially inept man fails a woman’s test…as well it should be. It’s as simple as that.
Simple, maybe, but not easy. It may take some time to unlearn the poisonous habit of seeing the approach as a competition. But the fact remains that we as men have the power to view things in the more sober context of mutual evaluation rather than "winning" or "losing". In doing so we overcome THE major contributor to "approach anxiety". And I assure you the effort is well worth it.
Strangely enough, the women will even appreciate you MORE as a result.
After all, women love real men.
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Christian Hudson (www.masterthevibe.com):
Here are two different, easy-as-they-come openers:
A.) "Excuse me… what’s your name?"
B.) "Excuse me… what’s your name?"
Sadly, in this email, we’re limited to what can be conveyed by text on a page. But there’s actually a huge difference between A and B up there. It’s in the vibe the energy that flows from a man who knows how to make a woman feel like a woman. So while "A" gets shut down instantly, "B" opens up conversations like a doorman at the Four Seasons.
This energy, this vibe of a cool guy what is it?
His vibe is masculine. Women know they’re talking to a man and not a boy. He looks at her directly, for a few moments too long. He doesn't hide his physical attraction, but rather makes her feel like her feminine radiance is a gift.
His vibe is warm. A woman feels comfortable talking with him, and it brings a smile to her face to think of him. He doesn't hide the fact that he’s happy to be around her.
His vibe conveys strength. A woman can imagine herself wrapped in his arms on a sofa over the holidays. He isn't confrontational, but he’s comfortable being challenged. He knows who he is and what he will accept.
His vibe is positive. He sees the best in people, and lifts them up. He sees the bright side of every situation and accentuates it. Life makes him smile and little things make him laugh.
His vibe is sensitive. He knows when to push someone away, but more importantly, he knows when to pull them back in. He’s probably hurt others and has been hurt, but he still opens his heart to those who deserve it.
His vibe is smooth. He is neither too hot nor too cold. A woman doesn't feel overwhelmed by his energy or feel like she’s doing him a favor by talking to him, but she also doesn't feel like he’s constantly judging her or closing himself off.
GETTING THE VIBE
I've been working with Sebastian Drake from theApproach, and he and I were discussing some of the successes and failures of past clients of ours. One of the things that stood out to us was that guys who had the right attitude coming into a weekend boot camp almost always did well. They were positive yet masculine, and most importantly, they liked women. The clients who had the hardest time usually had some degree of resentment towards women, or saw them as a different species entirely.
Once a guy’s heart is in the right place, his words and his movements begin to flow with the right energy. A lot has been made of complicated techniques and attraction algorithms, but watch any natural and you'll see that his "game" relies largely on the energy and vibe he emanates. Boring conversation topics become lively, and a simple smile and eye contact go a long way.
Men spend a lot of time focusing on techniques, which makes sense on a practical level. As guys, we tend to think that input X yields output Y, so we learn a set
of techniques that we believe will lead to a desired outcome. But working on a positive vibe isn't about technique so much as it is mindset. Sebastian and I have spent a lot of time talking about a guy’s focus what he’s thinking about when he goes out to meet women, and we've talked extensively with the most successful guys we know. Would you believe that technique gets about 10% of a socially successful man’s conscious attention in a given evening? The majority of his attention is focused on, well, being social and having fun.
Ultimately, "Excuse me… what’s your name?" should work for any man with the right strength, warmth and smile. And believe me, its much easier than memorizing a routine! A good vibe is not just a technique it is part of a life and a lifestyle.
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Qubert:
Getting Past LJBF
Let's Just Be Friends. Is there a more dreaded phrase in the English language? Maybe "25 to Life" or "IRS Audit," but I've never heard either of those myself.
I recently got involved with a very nice co-ed at the local university. I spent quite a bit of time with her before she dropped the LJBF bomb. I could list the many mistakes I made with this relationship, but you wouldn't learn anything from that. Here's what I did to get out of LJBF hell.
First, I got annoyed and I let her know it. I asked her what she was doing at my house at 3 AM if that's all she wanted, why she called me so much, got dressed up to see me, sat on my lap, etc. I told her that I liked her a lot and wasn't interested in just being friends. "I've got lots of friends already," I said, "that's not what I'm looking for." Although I was annoyed, I was careful not to insult her or say anything unfair.
Following the traditional advice for LJBF (a 6 month absence), I pretty much ignored her after that. She felt badly and wanted to know that I wasn't angry with her. She wanted me to tell her that it was okay that we were just friends. I refused to do that. I would only respond to her calls and messages with really short texts (when I responded at all). After a couple weeks, she left me a message saying she missed me and wanted me to be a part of her life (as a friend, I assumed). I agreed to meet her at a sports bar to watch a game with some mutual friends.
I showed up late to the game and spent almost the entire night talking to other people and having as much fun as I could without her. I was pleasant with her, but not very friendly. I said hello, sat with her for a few minutes, and then excused myself. I left soon after the game.
The next week, I was out with a mutual friend of hers (a guy). My target called him and wanted to meet (I had already refused an invitation from her). Would we come meet them? "No way," I said. "If they want to meet, tell them to come here." And so they did. When they arrived, I spent about an hour flirting with her friend, who really responded to my jokes and escalation. Both girls got pretty drunk. When my target wanted to use the bathroom, I jokingly asked if she needed me to hold her hand. "Yes," she replied and grabbed my arm. She led me to the bathrooms and attacked me on the stairs. Seeing the women's bathroom empty, I led her into a stall and locked the door.
To be honest, I didn't expect to beat the LJBF thing. I was annoyed that she wasted my time and sent mixed signals. However, I was really pleased to discover that there are some effective techniques for dealing with this problem, namely take-away and jealousy. I'm always careful that women have fun with me, so when I exited her life, she stopped having as much fun. Flirting with her friend, and her friend's response to me, was both a take-away and a DHV and caused her to re-think her valuation of me (and maybe spurred a bit of competitiveness with her friend). All in all, I was pretty lucky, but maybe this report will prove useful to you.
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ANNOUNCEMENTS (includes promos of new sites, podcasts, events, products, etc.)
See the on-line version of this email at www.cliffslist.com (click on "Letter") for more details about many of the following - once on the "Letter" page on the website, scroll down to the Promo section.
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- Real Social Dynamics will be conducting a series of free workshops for subscribers of the RSD E-Course newsletters and to Cliff's List.
To claim your FREE workshop tickets before they're all gone, find the city nearest you from the list below and visit the links below for full details:
NEW YORK - July 19, 2007 www.realsocialdynamics.com/free-workshop-ny2007.asp
ROME - August 11, 2007 www.realsocialdynamics.com/free-workshop-rome2007.asp
LONDON - August 30, 2007 www.realsocialdynamics.com/free-workshop-london2007.asp
LOS ANGELES - November 29, 2007 www.realsocialdynamics.com/free-workshop-la2007.asp
- Scot McKay of X & Y Communications hosts The Ten-Plus Accelerated Coaching Program. This is a one-on-one direct coaching program that includes ten sessions based on a specialized plan developed with you with a distinct set of goals as an expected result. The character-based approach focuses on helping a man or woman truly deserve what he or she wants from a wildly successful dating life. This is a hands-on, labor-intensive product as opposed to an electronic one. www.dating-coaches.com/
- How to attract women Naturally! Checkout Cameron Teone’s Building Attraction Secrets. What makes this book any different or unique to other books? The fact that it makes a perfect symbiosis between inner game and outer game on the one hand, and the theoretical and practical on the other hand as well as implementing the very important concepts of lifestyle and masculinity in a very practical manner that will change your life forever. Check it out at www.attractwomenanywhere.com/ebook.html
- Attract and Date has released the new Home Study Course: 10 students filmed on a Workshop where everyone had, at least, a date from the street. Great quality of picture and sound! Everyone is wired with audio and action is totally realistic. You get to see their shining successes and big failures also. See and HEAR for the first time students like a 40 year old scientist that never approached on the street with Sharks "I like you" and getting fantastic results! Go to www.AttractAndDate.com to see 50 screen shots from the DVD Course. Get inspired!
- Brother Kermit has just published I'm A Man, That's My Job: The Philosophy of a Seducer, A Complete Inner Game Workbook. Here is the link: www.lulu.com/content/875062 You can buy it until May 31st for 15$US, As of June 1st, the price goes up to 49,95$ US. It has all the lists, plus more. The rules of relationships The base life philosophies AND A description of the 10 stages of development from Loser to Seducer to Natural. This book also has charts to track your development. Until May 31st, you all can get a FULL FREE PREVIEW!!! He has put the ENTIRE book up for a FREE preview. All 278 pages.
- Most dating "gurus" talk about inner game, but fall far short in actually providing you with practical solutions for solving your inner game issues. With his Hypnotica's program, "Ultimate Inner Game", you can transform your mind and emotions in just days! www.ultimateinnergame.com/
- DiClassified DRILLS! Vin DiCarlo of DiCarlo DiClassified has released his new drill-based training, which boasts a total of 36+ real time drills specifically designed for pick-up training. Drills based-training develops your game in a way that is systematic, effective, personalized, natural and best of all, fun! The curriculum can be found at www.vindicarlo.com/
- Want to master your sex life? Male escort and live sex performer NathanX leads a team of male and female sex instructors in their intensive and popular workshop "Sexual Mastery for Men". They teach what 99.9% of guys do not know and will never know. Where PUA skills end, sexual mastery skills begin. PUA skills enable you to get the girl. Sexual and relationship management enables you to keep her in the sort of relationships you want. Workshops also include a live demonstration of
techniques! What they teach at MYSL is the real deal. No one else in the world is teaching what they teach. Free videos, audios and blog. www.masteryoursexlife.com/
- Doc, a featured speaker at both the 2005 & 2006 Cliff's List Conventions, is holding seminars. For more info go to his new site at www.TrueLifeSkills.com.
- Cardinal just wanted to let you know that he's going to release The Cardinal Flight Plan (CFP) Ebook in the next few days. He's so confident that this book is going to be a hit, he's going to offer the first 25 people a free copy! Yup, the first 25 people to visit Seductiontech.com will get a free copy. He will send out a mass email once he officially releases the CFP... Go to Seductiontech.com and sign-up for his newsletter, and be sure to watch your email.
- Magnus, of Bristol Lair fame, has released his e-book on improving your Inner Game using Emotional Freedom Technique. Every problem you have with women can be boiled down to negative feelings and beliefs. You can use EFT to eliminate these until you have none left. Magnus has an online seminar, and free tutorial videos on his site: www.InnerGameTapping.com/
- In the Toronto area Christiano has been teaching men to work from their inner game to outer game in a way that is congruent to their identity. Most see results after being taught the skills in the workshop immediately. Find out more by visiting: bestnaturalgame.com.
- Ron Louis & David Copeland have put out a new ebook "How to be the Bad Boy Women Love." Find out more at howtosucceedwithwomen.com/htg/
- New Book/Audio release: "Park Bench Dating." Are you currently meeting women in the day time? Do you know how easy it is to get a quality number in a few minutes, just as you go through your day? Written by Art, an NYC dating coach, who came from PUA community and turned pure natural. Covered by The New York Times and ABC Television, his methods of meeting in the day time are so effective simply because they are so easy to use everyday. www.ParkBenchDating.com
- Uncle Ruckus has started a new youtube show called "The Nice Guy Show" and he'd like for you to watch. Here's the link to the show: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyvq8kv2iRI. You can also visit his home page at www.adviceonwomen.com. He plugs Cliff's List on this recent one: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOCTCYVgl4Q
- Society "Of Cool" - Description of Group: Simple: This place is for all of you dudes and chicks who are rad cool and want to step their game up in life with wealth building(money) and relationship building (women/men). Living a healthy lifestyle is considered "cool" as well.. This place is ONLY FOR COOL PEOPLE. If you are a beta male, chump, nerd, loser, you are getting your a$$ banned! Visit this Link: www.spiritual-seduction.com/phpBB2/index.php?c=1
- Here's a neat one, originally proposed to me by Johnny Soporno. Take one of these pills daily (male or female) and taste sweet: sweetsecretions.com/cgi-bin/ustorekeeper.pl
- The Mystery Method has come out with a new book, Magic Bullets. Find out more at: www.themysterymethod.com/magicbullets.html
- Rion Williams has announced and released his pioneering 'Secret to Women' video, downloadable eBook and podcast. Something as ambitious as that just has to be seen for yourself. www.secretofwomen.com/resources.htm. Rion has also released the community/content site 'AboveTheGame.NET.' Its got articles, blogs, user profiles, an active forum, chat and more. You can even create your own blog and submit your own dating/seduction content or questions. The community is focused on how to be a 'natural' ladies man. www.abovethegame.net
- Herbal, one of the characters made famous by The Game, has finally released an ebook after taking some time away from the community. He also offers a free 10 Day E-Mail Bootcamp." For more information, visit www.makeherchaseyou.com/
- Carlos Xuma is releasing a new program entitled "Alpha Man Conversation & Persuasion," which covers all areas of communication. From talking to women, to using NLP, to creating REAL attraction and rapport, to handling the guys that try to tool you - you'll find what you need in this 14 CD program. Carlos is also giving away a free one-on-one phone coaching session to one of the first 500 guys who get the program. Visit: www.alphaconfidence.com/conversation-persuasion/
- How to be an all-around cooler person - completely free, practical advice for guys on social skills, getting along with people, and getting your act together - all written by a recovered loser. Not everyone will need to read the material here, but take a look if you think you could benefit from improving your people skills before diving into the seduction game. Feel free to check it out at www.howtobecooler.com
- Jordan has a new podcast out about pickup. The content is, and will continue to be, 100% free and doesn't push any particular method or commercial product/workshop, etc. The website is www.pickuppodcast.com
- LayGuide was the original inspiration for Neil Strauss to write "The Game" and is still the most thorough and continually updated collection of the best dating, attraction and seduction tips in the world: www.layguide.com/
- In The Game by Neil Strauss, "TwoTimer" is talked about as one of the top players. His more commonly known handle is IN10SE, and his "Octoberman Sequence" has been whispered about and become a LEGEND in the on-line Pickup artist community. It's rumored to give a woman ULTIMATE pleasure and you ULTIMATE control - in as little as 15 minutes! Only the BEST of the BEST know it. Check it out here: www.octoberman.com/
- Which PUA would you like to hear answer YOUR most pressing questions about Pick-Up? Captain Jack (of www.betheseducer.com) is planning to interview the PUA you most want to hear from in a totally FREE 70-90 Minute Teleseminar. To nominate your favorite PUA and get more info on the event just go to: www.askdatabase.com/gt/askfast.php?a=28521
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PROMOS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & REVIEWS SECTION
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LAIR SECTION
(Lairs are gatherings of PUA's of differing levels and talents that meet in different cities to discuss their experiences and to work together to improve their success with women). More Lair Listings can be found at dutchseduction.blogspot.com/ and at www.bristollair.com, as well as at www.seductionlair.com:
A YAHOO GROUP FOR THOSE RUNNING LAIRS:
If and ONLY if you are running a lair there is now a Yahoo Group for organization ideas for PUA groups. As each lair is different, this group lets us know what other lairs are doing. No seduction related topics are discussed, just organization ideas. To join please email RunningaPUAgroup-subscribe@yahoogroups.com and then email Nightlife at nightlife858@yahoo.com with an intro of who you are and what Lair you are running. You can also go to: groups.yahoo.com/group/RunningaPUAgroup/
LAIR GROUP
If you run a lair or are considering starting one, join this group to exchange ideas with the rest of the community and keep informed of community activities. www.LairList.com Contact: LairList@LairList.com
Lair List is an official directory of lairs worldwide. The Lair List Foundation is an international nonprofit cooperation of lair owners. LairList.com is completely nonprofit. LairList.com is 100% non-commercial. If you run a lair or are considering starting one, register your lair here lairlist.com/index.php?option=com_comprofiler&task=registers. Join this group (lounge.lairlist.com/) to exchange ideas with the international lair community. Get the latest seduction news from around the world (www.lairlist.com/).
HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE MONTREAL LAIR:
- Lair meetings are scheduled currently once a month on Sundays. For more info on joining the Lair (local only, sorry), email me. Out of town bros are welcome to drop in to meetings. The Lair now has a magnificent new online discussion forum that was put together by Loveur.
The Lair meetings are very insightful gatherings of guys interested in learning, improving, and helping others to become more successful in their relationships with women. If you are already in a relationship, and you continue to read these emails, you should realize that there is information here to improve and enhance your existing relationship - not only to create new ones.
Here is a list of other Lairs around the world (if you know of any others, please let me know):
MONTREAL JUNIOR LAIR FOUNDED!
Montreal Junior Lair: The Montreal X-Lair has been founded to help minors (who are not permitted to join the Montreal Lair until they are 18) get together and communicate. Lair applications would be sent to MontrealXLair@hotmail.com.
NEW FRENCH MONTREAL LAIR FORMED
Good news! Montreal has now a FRENCH Lair! Oui! Ever wanted to be part of a lair without having to learn another language?
- A lair which would offer you support
- A lair which would allow you to find new wingman
- A lair where you would be able to learn
- A lair where you would be able to share
- A lair which would offer occassions to sarge
- A lair where you would be able to conquer your fear
- A lair which would allow you to become a better PUA 100 times faster
And all that in FRENCH! Now is your chance! We've just opened our forum located at www.seduire.ca , registration are free. You can also apply to become a Montreal VIP which will offer you the possibility to be part of the best French PUA Team in Montreal. We also have a section dedicated to people of Quebec City cause we love you :) Note that the sooner you become part of our family, the sooner you'll be the person you want to become.
Many of our members are experts in specifics techniques such as Mystery Method, Juggler Method, direct/indirect techniques and know about their stuff. They are the people you want to hang with. As David DeAn gelo too often said: "You want to befriend those people who've got the talent you want to have so you can learnwith them and from them." The forum is located at www.seduire.ca. We hope to see you there soon!
NEW LAIR IN TORONTO
Frank B Kermit's Toronto Seduction Lair
No Minors! No Hazing Rituals! No Membership Fees! No Referral Link 'Click Fees'! No Forced Paid Workshops to gain access! No Organized Pirating of Copyright Materials! No illegal activates nor criminal associations whatsoever! Fully MODERATED to encourage a 100% RESPECTFUL learning environment!
An Advanced Section for Gurus and Top Guys who have mastered basic game! Separate sections for Commercial announcements and seduction Discussions!
Seduction Gurus are WELCOMED directly into the Advanced Section! An Active Free Newbie System designed to bring up skill levels FASTER!
Men's Only Group (confidentiality and privacy assured)! A Seduction FOCUSED group, no distractions! www.torontolair.ca/
THE TORONTO LAIR
The Toronto Lair is called TSN or Toronto Social.net. Anyone who gets to the homepage at www.TorontoSocial.net./ can email the webmaster to get information. If that's not an option, they can call Ike at: 416-628-9973 or his cell at: 416-300-6500.
MORE TORONTO
There are at least two other PUA groups in Toronto:
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VANCOUVER SOCIAL BOARD
A tight and good group of guys from various backgrounds who want to learn how to become better with women. We have two rules 1) this is not a competition, we are here to help each other and 2) you must be willing to try. We go out very regularly and have some skilled guys.
Visit Yahoo Group: groups.yahoo.com/group/vancouversocialboard/ Contact: Docandwriter (docandwriter@shaw.ca)
Victoria Social society
This is an open group for all you Victorian men (Victoria, British Columbia, Canada)who wish the study and pursue the art of seduction.
Visit Yahoo Group:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/victoriasocialsociety/
Contact: Docandwriter (docandwriter@shaw.ca)
Calgary Social Group
This is the Calgary PUA Lair for men (young and old) who want to get together to discuss PU and go sarging in Calgary. This group is meant to enrich the lives of men and, I believe ,women indirectly. Everyone can learn and it's only the lack of support and positive influence that cause people to stop trying. Here we can all grow as men and learn the skills we need to accomplish our goals.
Visit Yahoo Group: groups.yahoo.com/group/calgarysocialgroup/
Contact: Elantraman (elantraman2002@yahoo.com) or Docandwriter (docandwriter@shaw.ca)
NEW BRIGHTON LAIR
Darklight wrote to announce the new Lair which has just been set up in sunny Brighton on the south coast of England. They are a small group of PUAs hitting up the bars, clubs, street and beaches of Brighton. People are welcome to join, all styles and skill levels -- so long as they are active in field. Contact them at uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/brightonpickup/ or at brightonpickup@googlemail.com
IRISH LAIR
The Irish Lair has 211 members and was started December, 2005. Its Lair Leader is Stealth and their website is: www.irishseduction.com/forum or you can contact: stealth.waves@gmail.com or xrockridgex@gmail.com
NEW LAIR FORMING IN MILWAUKEE:
I am going to be starting a new lair consisting of only the Milwaukee and surrounding areas naturals. I feel like with this caliber of a Lair only success is an option. This is going to be a bunch of guys meeting up sporatically for sarging and for schedualed meetings. If you feel you qualify and can positively impact our group, email me at allimalgam@aol.com
AUSTRIAN PLAYERS
Home of the legendary EuroSummit 2005, most diverse members from total beginners to serial layers from Austria, Germany and Switzerland. Join us! (If you happen to ravel by, drop us a line!) Visit: www.austrianplayers.com Contact: Neodes@austrianplayers.com
Also, a new board has been started named AUSTRIAN SEDUCTON COMMUNITY (ASC) and the Lair URL for that is www.austrianseduction.com. Ben and Rey can be reached at info@6system.info. Described as the next generation of PU-Communities! ASC supports you with: - public/private photo albums; Event calender & Lair meeting System; PU-Lexicon; Video Blog; personal Notes System; & the best german-speaking PUAs including 2 females!
NEW LAIR FORMING IN AMSTERDAM/HOLLAND:
The lair can be found at groups.yahoo.com/group/Amsterdam_Dating/
NEW LAIR FORMING IN PORTLAND, MAINE
I'm starting a lair in Portland, Maine so we can truly be "the way life should be"!
Starting with a dozen AFCs & PUAs and looking to grow and share our skills.
Send email to magickman@maine.rr.com if you wish to join.
NEW LAIR FORMING IN MISSISSIPPI/ALABAMA
I'm starting up a lair in MS/AL for anyone in driving distance to the Birmingham area. Contact blake1_19@yahoo.com for anyone interested in joining.
SALT LAKE CITY AND SURROUNDING AREAS
AFCs to PUAs. Meet and share seduction tips. We meet once a week and help push members to become the man they desire!
Contact UtahX at utahrafc@gmail.com
NEW LAIR FORMING IN NORFOLK-VIRGINIA BEACH, VIRGINIA
I'm interested in starting a Seduction Lair in the Norfolk-Virginia Beach area. If anyone is interested, please email me. Thanks,
Stingray9001 stingray9001@yahoo.com
NEW LAIR FORMED IN DENVER
Denver Lair is a community for Denver/Boulder/Colorado area PUAs to wing, talk about the game and make friends in the community. If you're in the Colorado, join our yahoo-group: groups.yahoo.com/group/denver_puas/
NEW LAIR FORMING IN RICHMOND, VIRGINIA
Hi, I'm starting a lair in Richmond, Virginia, the state capitol with a rather big scene. Currently all gamers in Richmond are forced to go up to DC, or down to North Carolina if they wish to attend a lair meeting. I would like to keep that experience at home, as we have many beautiful women in this wonderful city. Send an email to miikey723@yahoo.com if you wish to join.
EUROPE LAIR FOUNDED
Red Priest has founded the Europe Lair. You can find the description here:
http//groups.yahoo.com/group/europelair/
ISRAEL LAIR:
For the Israel Lair, Tironut 69, go to www.tironut69.com
DUNEDIN, NEW ZEALAND LAIR FORMING
For all you Otago students (or campus orbiters) who think you got game! This will be the southernmost lair in the world. Run by an RAFC with a fair bit of bookwork and small experience- any skill level you want, just prepared to approach, talk and try out new stuff. Email me at beest.goes.roar@gmail.com, and will see if we can't get a local lair started. it's time to bring the game to the deep south!
WELLINGTON, NEW ZEALAND LAIR
An active lair is up and running in Wellington, NZ. Primary focus is going out and working in the field. All skill levels are welcome. Anybody who wants to join constructive, like-minded people in persuing the PUA lifestyle. We have a forum, and a bunch of friendly people who can wing with you to get you off of the ground; email Matt via moxyfmac@gmail.com
TAMPA BAY AND ST. PETE, FLORIDA:
We started a new Lair in the Tampa Bay area. All styles welcome. e-mail us at paradigmaman@yahoo.com Also, go to www.toplair.com/ for more information about PUA Lair activity in Tampa.
NEW LAIR FORMING IN GENEVA
We want to create a Lair in Geneva, Switzerland. It would be open to French and English speaking people living in Geneva and neighbouring cities like Lausanne and France as well willing to meet and seduce women. All skill levels and ages are accepted. The main task of the Lair will be field experiences on a regular basis. Contact Julien at : Julien72@bluewin.ch
NEW GROUP FOR CHICAGO
Chicago Wingman Meetup Group which currently holds meetings on the first Saturday of every month at 3:00 pm, the place will be disclosed to members once they sign up for the group. The website address is wingman.meetup.com/18/ - this group is combining with the Chicago Lair, whose contact was Eric at theprogen2003@yahoo.com Since they've just starting to hold meetings, they have a flexible format but as they get more organized they plan to have guest speakers. Anyone who knows a local PUA (not self proclaimed) is encouraged to invite him/ her over to share ideas. Please post all org issues under www.fastseduction.com/cities/Chicago
NEW LAIR FOR EDMONTON
Edmonton Men's Social Improvement Club, a Registered Non-Profit Organization can be reached at: www.socialimprovementclub.org or by email: applicants@socialimprovementclub.org
SAN RAFAEL, CALIFORNIA
The Seduction Lair is up and running in San Rafael, California. Contact activte@aol.com for more information.
PARIS PICK UP CLUB
Formed by a group of FRIENDLY motivated guys from all nationalities with some solid game. The Paris Pick Up Club (PPC) is where all the PUA's and RAFC's BROTHERS living in Paris can share experiences, wing with different people and practice techniques. The goal is to IMPROVE our GAME while having lots of FUN. Since the purpose of the PPC is to practice, in order to join, future members must be available to sarge regularly. Contact alfaztec@yahoo.com
BELGIUM: NL Lounge at DutchSeduction.com An independent platform for the phenomenon known as "seduction" in the Dutch language with members in Amsterdam, the Netherlands, Belgium and points beyond. Founded in 1999, we are one of the first international groups dedicated to seduction. Our purpose is to help members meet one another and share information and experience. Write to nllounge@dutchseduction.com. Visit our Website: www.DutchSeduction.com
NETHERLANDS: NL Lounge at DutchSeduction.com An independent platform for the phenomenon known as "seduction" in the Dutch language with members in Amsterdam, the Netherlands, Belgium and points beyond. Founded in 1999, we are one of the first international groups dedicated to seduction. Our purpose is to help members meet one another and share information and experience. Write to nllounge@dutchseduction.com. Visit our Website: www.DutchSeduction.com
NEW LAIR IN NEW ORLEANS
There is a new Lair in New Orleans and here is the info:
groups.yahoo.com/group/NewOrleansPlayers/ - MIKEALW@HOTMAIL.COM.
Description: This group is for guys in the New Orleans area who are studying the Double your Dating material by David DeAngelo. This group is to get and give advice, to share your experiences and results, and to hook up with other guys so you can go out and work on your game together. Anyone in the New Orleans area is welcome from inexperienced to PUA's.
NEW LAIR IN SINGAPORE
The Singapore Lair is a community for guys interested in improving their skills in meeting and attracting/seducing women. This group is mainly for guys who live in or travel to Singapore, although PUAs from other countries are also welcome. Membership is restricted to doers only -- you must be in the field and have real field experience. No armchair theorists allowed. To join this group, email singaporelair-owner@yahoogroups.com with your name, background and experience.
DALLAS LAIR
The Dallas Seduction Lair has been around for over a year now. We have had 18 official events of both discussion and seminar style events. As well as countless nights of sarging with newfound wingmen by our members. We are now over 120 members strong. Anyone at any skill level with a desire to learn is welcome. More information at: wingman.meetup.com/6/ or www.DallasSeductionLair.com
DALLAS PUA
DallasPua.com is formed from the spirit of helping my fellow brothers become better in their sarging skills of women and of life; to develop their individual integrity. The site offers many free features such as a forum (www.dallaspua.com/forum), personal journals/blogs, extensive resource page, and more. It is based out of Dallas, but the tailored PUA features are available to anyone. This is your site! For more info go to www.DallasPua.com
HUNGARIAN LAIR FORMING
Hungarian Lair (Budapest) invites all visiting and local people for a great time of sarging in Budapest clubs and streets. We field test MM, SS, RSD, Maniac Plan and various other stuff. Contact us at redpriest_hu@yahoo.com!"
NEW LAIR FORMING IN ITALY:
Our goal is to have a lot of FUN! Why did we create a Lair? To keep in touch with each other and to rock the Italian scene, we want to live like rockstars since we know we DESERVE IT. We have had enough of all the boring guys and loser boyfriends out there that are making women's lives a nightmare when they are waiting for US, the playboys. Join us and we will share with you a lot of secrets that you need to know to totally transform your life life and get more choice not only in life but with every relationship. In order to learn you must be willing to go out with us and try new stuff asking to yourself: "What is possible? What if I get the results I only dreamed of and then even more than that?" Send an email at italy_lair@yahoo.com to join.
NEW LAIR FORMED IN NORWICH (UK):
The Norwich Lair is a group for pickup artists in Norwich (UK) and the surrounding areas. The lair meets every Saturday night , 10PM in Norwich
City. The group is not a talking shop, if you want to remain in the lair you must participate in fieldwork every 90 days. To join the group, send an email to thenorwichlair-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
OHIO LAIR FORMED:
An Ohio Lair has just been created for ASFers located in Ohio. I'm hoping to have regular sarging meetings at different cities in Ohio and regular guest speakers. Any ASFer in Ohio who is interested in joining please email me an intro of yourself to philonous03@yahoo.com.
VIRGINIA/CAROLINA LAIR GROUP
The VAC (Virginia Carolina) Lair is a community for Virginia and Carolina area PUAs to talk about the game, make friends in the community, and meet up with wings in the area. Current members are located in the Charlotte, Blacksburg/Radford, and Raleigh/Chapel Hill areas. While those from outside this area are encouraged to participate, most events will likely be held within these areas. The VAC Lair is open to all levels from Beginner to PickUp Artist (PUA). Just come with a desire to learn, a willingness to share what you know, and a commitment to field test what you learn. groups.yahoo.com/group/vaclair/
NEW YORK CITY LAIR:
New York City Team Strike Force - The oldest lair in the U.S. and the only one that can lay claim to having dedicated instructors of reputation on staff, just for the members. Very organized, very respected and very strong sense of community, as well as life balance. You know you want us. Visit @ www.nyclair.com Please email admin@nyclair.com to request information about membership.
SECOND NEW YORK LAIR STARTED:
With the help of a few friends, Strongbad has started a lair in NYC. Send an email to either strongbadpua@yahoo.com or
NY-PLAY-subscribe@yahoogroups.com to join if you live in the NY area.
BLOOMINGTON LAIR STARTED:
The Bloomington, IN lair for guys interested in attraction/seduction. This is a group made for guys that want to discuss techniques, inner game, make
new friends, and meet up with wings in the Bloomington area. If your interested in subscribing email: b-lair-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
AUCKLAND, NEW ZEALAND LAIR
Anyone living in Auckland (New Zealand) are welcome to join this bad ass lair. It's consantly growing, we have guys with all sorts of experience levels with diverse styles of game. We sarge regularly. So if you're up for some fun e-mail us at akpuah@gmail.com"
SCOTLAND LAIR:
There is now a Scotland Lair. It's the SSs Group and we have a website at www.scotlandlair.com that we JUST put up. The group is currently yahoo based and we would like to start taking in any members who may or may not have heard about us yet. To join, they can visit SSs.scotlandlair.com which will redirect them to our mailing list, or email signup@scotlandlair.com for more instructions on joining. The website is starting to grow big as it's seen on ASF. We have our own discussion forums. We also have a photo and VIDEO gallery where PUAs can upload their own photos and videos and browse those of others!! We are also giving out free scotlandlair.com email addresses to contributors.
BRAZIL NOW HAS A LAIR:
To join please send an email to Brazil_P-L-A-Y-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
NEW LAIR FORMING IN TOKYO:
The Tokyo lair now has a discussion board for discussing the finer points of the Japanese scene, guys looking to meet wings and discuss all things nanpa can email tokyolair@hotmail.com for an invite to the board.
ARIZONA LAIR
Arizona Pick-Up Artist: This lair was started in July 2004 by Cramias and J-Dog. We initially wanted to build a PUA community in Arizona to; improve our skills, have training resources, and especially encourage people in Arizona to actually get involved and wing together. As of Jan'05 we have 33 Arizona memebers and almost 200 members worldwide. Thousands of archived posts and more training resources under way. There is a wing contact list for Verified Arizonan's only, and we have frequent lair meetings and many people now wing together. Visit www.ArizonaPUA.com Contact jdog@arizonapua.com
ANNOUNCING SOUTH FLORIDA P-L-A-Y LIST:
The South Florida P-L-A-Y list is a community for Miami, Ft Lauderdale and Boca-Palm Beach area PUA's to meet up and improve their game in the field.
All methods are welcome. Please understand that our primary focus will be field work. To join, please contact Zuzu atSouthFlorida-P-L-A-Y-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
THE INDIA LAIR
We are a small but dynamic bunch of aspiring PUAs in India. Guys of all skill levels are welcome but MUST be serious about actually getting out in the field. Please register at the site. New registrants will be verified to weed out KJs. Visit www.indialair.com
BRISTOL LAIR
These guys have a truly great site, with a lot of terrific resources. Go to www.bristollair.com.
NEW LAIR FORMING IN DALLAS/FORT WORTH:
If you are interested in joining, please send an e-mail to dfwseductionlair@yahoo.com.
NEW LAIR IN GERMANY!
The name of the group is PU_Meetings_Germany. It´s a field oriented group and we welcome everybody from all over Germany to join and attend our meetings which are held in different cities all over Germany. For further information write to: pimpstylez@hotmail.com
NEW LAIR FORMING IN ORANGE COUNTY, CALIFORNIA:
A new lair called the O.C. Player's Group is forming for members of the seduction community in Orange County, California. The group will be a place for everyone from aspiring to accomplished PUAs in "the OC" to post their pick up experiences and successes and meet occasionally in a constructive and non-critical environment. Everyone is welcome, but you must be serious about becoming a PUA and the emphasis will be on getting out into the field and reporting on what worked and what didn't. Armchair pua/theorists need not apply! Contact pua1day (Kurt) for further information at o.c.playasgroup@sbcglobal.net or to join at:
groups.yahoo.com/group/ocplayasgroup/
NEW LAIR FORMING IN HARRISBURG, PA:
No keyboard Junkies, only people who are willing to go out in the field and just get better at the game. All levels are welcome. Contact Gaurang at
NEW SYDNEY LAIR STARTED!!!
Monthly meetings with guest speakers. All levels welcomed only prerequisite is that you are in the field. To join please email ta_justin@hotmail.com
NEW LAIR FORMING IN OKLAHOMA CITY:
Lu is looking to start a lair in Oklahoma City, OK. He would like to invite anyone who's interested in going out sarging to join, & help him get the lair started, please respond only if you are interested in Going Out & sarge, or Doing Field Work, contact him at ljp97001@yahoo.com.
NEW LAIR FORMING IN PHILADELPHIA
Looking for a group of guys interested in a Lair in the Philly area. All experience levels welcome but must be willing to actually go into the field. See philadelphiaLair@yahoogroups.com or email me at myaroch@yahoo.com
NEW LAIR FORMING IN AUCKLAND, NEW ZEALAND:
We have already met-up with couple of local guys and sarge 2-3 times a week. We are willing to meet-up with more guys to share the PU knowledge and experience to improve our game. Those of you who are interested contact us at sexualpredator@em-wave.com"
KANSAS CITY LAIR FORMING:
Looking to get a group of like minded guys together to share ideas and most importantly work the field in Kansas City MO. Write eclypz@hotmail.com and include "From Cliff's List" in the title.
NEW LAIR FORMED IN CONNECTICUT:
Open to PUAs and RAFCs who live in CT who are interested in or have real field experience as opposed to keyboard theory. Send an email to djsemtp00@aol.com with your background and experience.
CONNECTICUT PLAYER'S LAIR:
CT Player's Lair now opens its membership to any PUA from the skill levels of RAFC to MPUA and lives in the CT, NY, NJ, RI, or Massachusetts area. We have our own private pick up knowledge base that all members may use as a resource to learn from and use in the field with us. Please register at: www.spiritual-seduction.com/phpBB2/index.php Registration is free until January 20th of Next Year!
NEW LAIR FORMED IN OTTAWA:
Ottawa Lair yahoo group created groups.yahoo.com/group/ottawalair/
NEW LAIR FORMED IN BOSTON:
The Boston Lair is now open. The lair is a forum for brothers in the Boston, Rhode Island, and upper New England area to get together and meet others in the game and to build an active community in Boston and the surrounding areas. To subscribe to the Lair, email b-o-s-lair-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.
NEW LAIR FORMING IN NORTH CAROLINA:
A group is interested in forming a lair in the North Carolina area. Members include attendees of the Charlotte Sargeathon in November 2003. Meetings may rotate through different cities (possibly outside North Carolina) depending on interest. Contact Jason at thee_jacas@yahoo.com with LAIR in the subject line for more information.
NEW LAIR FORMED IN POLAND:
We've formed a LAIR in Poland groups.yahoo.com/group/pflayers/join so if anybody is interested in joining it contact me at PFLayers-owner@yahoogroups.com or subscribe at PFLayers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com. It's unmoderated formum where You can excange your views on the game and meet with wings in your area.
NEW LAIR FORMING IN LAS VEGAS:
Nightlife who runs San Diego is helping a few guys set something up in Vegas so a new group is now forming. To join please send an email LV-P-L-A-Y-subscribe@yahoogroups.com be prepared to give a brief intro.
NEW LAIR FORMING IN ITALY:
Milano will be headquarters. All Italians, Swiss, Austrians, etc are welcome to join. Would like to set up infrastructure for weekly or biweekly weekend sargefests, both day and night. Goals include: hosting seminars/workshops of the world's best PUAs, sharing the best techniques for Italian hotbabes, sarging together, sarging trips to Roma, Firenze, etc. We need to get a solid core of about 10 guys to really get it going. All levels welcome. Email italypua@yahoo.com for info.
ATLANTA LAIR:
Contact: groovewhiz@yahoo.com
NEW LAIR FORMING MILWAUKEE TO MADISON:
A Lair is start for the Milwaukee to Madison, Wisconsin area. Emphasis will be on field sarging and developing a network of like-minded "wings" to develop and maintain a secret society in this area. We will sarge from the college bars of Madison to the redneck fishermen bars of Lake Country to the cheesy working class discos of Milwaukee. All interested parties (male or female) please contact g66@outgun.com
NEW LAIR FORMING IN MONTERREY, MEXICO:
The style I use is C&F from DYD, but am willing to try other styles, and will be very focused in going out and learning. Anyone interested in forming a Lair here in Mexico just write to me: javimartinez50@hotmail.com
NEW LAIR FORMING IN HONOLULU, HAWAII:
Showing those surfergirls a good time since late '03. Drop an e-mail to lair808@hotmail.com for more info on building sandcastles.
NEW LAIR IN CHINA (MAINLAND, TAIWAN, HK):
A list for China based PUA has been set-up. Discuss PU tactics/experiences in China, and meet and practice with other local PUA. Contact Angel Caido on el_angel_caido@lycos.com and join the group @ groups.yahoo.com/group/PUA-china/join
NEW LAIR FORMING IN OSLO:
The Oslo Lair just opened. If you are interested / want to join, go to groups.yahoo.com/group/asf-Oslo/ and apply. We will start out with monthly meetings, on the first Sunday of every month. The first meeting will be held December 7th, at 18h00.
NEW LAIR FORMING IN LOS ANGELES:
The LA List, PLAY (Player's Los Angeles Yahoo) Group, is a community for Los Angeles area PUAs to talk about the game, make friends in the community, and meet up with wings in the LA area. The PLAY List is a community that is open to the public and is a place where you can share your views on any methods in an unmoderated (except for deletion of spam) forum. Contact Papa at papa@realsocialdynamics.com and get on the mailing list by emailing p-l-a-y-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.
WASHINGTON, D.C.:
DC Seduction, formerly known as DC Area PUAs, has been around since 2000. We are over three dozen brothers drawn from the FastSeduction, SS, and the Lounge communities. Contact Minger at minger@dcseduction.com
SEATTLE LAIR FORMING!
I would like to find out how many are interested in forming a Seattle Lair. Contact theloinking1@hotmail.com to get on their mailing list.
THE AUSTIN SOCIETY (AUSTIN, TEXAS)
The Austin Society is a group of friends, within the greater Austin/San Antonio area, improving their attraction and relationship skills through field work and study. If you are interested in joining and contributing to our group, email us at theaustinsociety@yahoogroups.com for more info. Open-minded gentlemen of all skill levels are welcome."
NEW ORLEANS LAIR FORMING:
Joseph is looking to set up or find a "mastermind group" of like-minded people and he is in the south MS area about 1.5 hours drive from New Orleans or the MS gulf coast. He would like to invite anyone in MS/LA/AL within driving distance to participate, and to help him to get it started. Contact him at: veuxdeux@yahoo.com
NYC:
Contact Marco, marcorulesinfinity@yahoo.com and get on their mailing list: NYCTSF-SUBSCRIBE@YAHOOGROUPS.COM
SAN DIEGO (TWO GROUPS NOW!):
1) The San Diego lair is now opening their doors to potential new members for the next 30 days. If interested in joining the San Diego lair please contact Nightlife at nightlife@playboylifestyle.net
2) Pete M., and Nightlife have formed another seduction group in San Diego. This is to benefit guys who are interested in Pick Up who live or frequent San Diego. It is a group that is modeled after the LA P-L-A-Y list. To join send an email to SD-P-L-A-Y-subscribe@yahoogroups.com It is open to everyone in San Diego.
SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA LAIR:
We have a very active group in the San Francisco area dedicated to improving their game. All skill levels and types of game welcome. We have meetings once every 6 weeks or so, and numerous sarge outings. We also have top PUA's share their knowledge with us when they come to San Francisco. Our list traffic is low but valuable. Lots of field reports and feedback. To join send an email to sf_morpheus_x@yahoo.com, and mention you heard about us on Cliff's list.
DETROIT LAIR:
New lair starting in Detroit area. Guys of all skill levels are welcome but MUST be SERIOUS about learning. The group will be interactive and do field work also.
Any one willing to learn or teach is welcome. Send Greg an email saying your interested at Grgreg_2001@yahoo.com
HOUSTON:
www.houstonlair.com Members of the Lair meet regularly, actively apply and improve their skills and are eager to teach success. Contact: xmlenigma, bashev can be reached at xmlenigma@yahoo.com, rnkayab@hotmail.com
MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA:
Turning KJs into Active PUA
Members meet twice weekly with approximately 200+ registered members. Currently run mini study groups on Mystery Method, Gunwitch Method, Juggler, SS. We usually meet out in the field and streets so there is plenty of field practice. Our Sarge-Fest is a great learning night for newbies where some of Australias best PUA coach you to improve your game. We also organize other activities such as Salsa dance nights for our members and we encourage our members to contribute back to the community to help it grow. The lair currently runs its own forum so come join this active lair.
Contact iceman at melb.lair.autoreply@gmail.com. See Melb-Lair.com
AUCKLAND, NEW ZEALAND
Philip has started a LAIR for those who live in the upper North Island of New Zealand (Auckland, Hamilton, Tauranga, etc). There are already 4 of them who have been meeting regularly in Auckland, and they welcome others to be in touch. SSer's from elsewhere in New Zealand are also welcome to email to share experiences and form a network. Contact: philip@toeb.co.nz
MIAMI:
Contact Jerry at trudelle@email.com to attend.
LONDON, ENGLAND
The London Seduction Society www.thelss.com
AMSTERDAM:
Contact Big Bear groups.yahoo.com/group/nllounge/
The main purpose of the Lair is to help Wingmen to get in touch with each other and "in field" action! Membership open to anyone who lives in Holland or Belgium, or is a frequent visitor. However membership policy is strict.
PERTH, AUSTRALIA:
The Perth lair is a small group of people who sarge regularly several times a week. At the moment, I'm actively looking for new members to join us on our outings (the more the merrier!). Anyone wishing to go sarging with us any day of the week should email me at tnejad@hotmail.com to meet up.
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Inside you will find life-changing exercises that will catapult the confident, attractive and successful person inside you into effortless natural ACTION.
Are you ready to finally discover how to have SUCCESS with women that you've always dreamed of?
Then go to www.ultimateinnergame.com/ right now to find out more.
P.S. As you think about going to www.ultimateinnergame.com/ and discover how you can have the confidence and power with women you've always wanted, won't it be nice to know you can finally have this part of your life handled? Once you've done that you can sit back, relax, take a deep breath, and think to yourself... "At last I'm on my way to kick-ass results with women!"
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Doc is promoting his new DVDs and Spring Summer Workshop Schedule
DVDs: I am just releasing my 3-DVD set The Dating manual for men that
covers everything from Creating a high impact 1st impression (using style to
convey personality and create attraction instantly), Creating the right
Chemistry with a woman (how women think and how to create an unforgettable
experience and lasting attraction), and Overcoming personal roadblocks
(improving confidence, self-esteem and overcoming negative programming).
Workshops: Doc's 3-day transformational workshop puts the emphasis on
BECOMING the man that naturally attracts women, without tricks, gimmicks or
pickup lines. Most men will ruin their chances with women BEFORE they even
leave the house because they are not aware of what they project and how
people see them. Your transformation will start with a complete style
makeover to make a high impact first impression and create instant
attraction. Next, we get you working one on one with our female dating
coaches who help you fine tune your body language and conversational skills,
followed by a group outing with our wing-women who will be by your side to
coach you in real life. Our 3rd day covers everything your need to become a
sensual man and keep her coming back for more: erotic techniques and sexual
mastery.
Register at www.TrueLifeSkills.com
Dates to be announced for Toronto, Seattle, Chicago and other North American
cities soon.
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Mystery Method Workshops:
What method are YOU using?
If you are opening groups (or sets: 2-sets, 3-sets, mixed sets, etc) of people with the 3 second rule by stacking indirect openers (including false opinion openers), false time constraining (discovered by Style), demonstrating a higher value to your romantic interest’s peer group with high octane DHVs while she obliquely observes (locking her into her own set with a prop), and simultaneously performing false disqualifiers (which include negs) on her with the intension of disarming her peergroup and then isolating her to rebuild her self-esteem once you have enough IOIs (indicators of interest) so you may share in a comfort and trust building effort and then build in a jealousy subplot to solidify her attraction for you, you are using The Mystery Method.
If instead you are only approaching women who are alone, you are greatly limiting your options and quite likely alienating your target's friends. Do you want a lonely woman (why is she lonely?) or a woman who already has a healthy social lfe? Truth is, healthy women have healthy relationships ... sometimes good friendships with guys. Like it or not, you will have to meet these women with men in her group.
Women of beauty are rarely found alone. Don't miss the opportunity to meet and attract them WITH social proof from her very own peergroup. Group Approach Theory improves your options and increases the chances for attraction DRAMATICALLY over Single Approach Theory (SAT).
The guys who are GREAT in this game KNOW that they can improve their game ten-fold through seminars and personal coaching in-field workshops. Think about this: Why did so many of the greats who use Mystery's GAT (Style, Tyler D., MTL_PUA, and others) take MM seminars and workshops? What started them off to greatness in this game? Can you see the co-relation may in fact be a causation?
If you have NEVER taken a seminar or workshop before, it's time to finally reconsider. They are life-transforming. Workshops and seminars were for many of the greats THE difference between great success and failure. If you are ready, visit www.themysterymethod.com/magicbullets.html
Tenmagnet is doing Mystery Method workshops in Toronto and Montreal.
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The DiClassified Drills Bootcamp gives you:
The best inner game program available to date
It has been said that all game is inner game. Now, I'm not sure I agree with that completely, but I do know that small improvements to inner game yields huge returns in progress and ability.
When you train with DiClassified Drills under instructor supervision, and get personalized attention for each drill, we guarantee that you will be using the correct delivery, emotional energy and language during the bootcamp. Your cognitive function is literally forced to change right then and there. No more waiting for six weeks of fieldwork and practice.
(Although six weeks of practice would take your results even further)
Because DiClassified Drills makes such profound changes to inner game, combined with drilling down your execution of techniques until they are near-flawless, the changes can be quite dramatic.
"But Vin, I have X problem! (X = short, fat, old, ugly, bald, broke)"
Listen man. I hear this a lot. And I'll tell you the same thing I tell everyone else.
This program was designed by ME for guys with above-average intelligence. Now, I'm being very serious with you now, because I don't want you to waste your time or money.
If you have a learning disability, or have had trouble learning things in the past like academic courses, sports, music or anything else that requires attention, motivation and hands-on activity, then you may fail.
I'm not saying you'll never get women, or get laid, but this bootcamp is not the best way for you to do it.
DiClassified Drills was specifically designed to give intelligent guys a distinct edge, an undeniable upper hand, an unfair advantage but it leverages our strong desire and intellect to do that. It's not a magic pill for just anyone.
Your Success = YOUR(Desire + Intelligence) + Drills Participation.
Check it out-> www.vindicarlo.com/
The best type of training for developing top notch conversational mastery
And it's pretty damn obvious. Drills based training wins every time.
Each and every drill works to improve and clean up your communications, which means - greater conversational control, greater conversational awareness, greater social and emotional intelligence, higher thresholds for stress and anxiety, stronger more confident sub-communications, better more positive energy, enhanced facility in leading conversations... the list goes on.
Bring me any two guys of comprable skill level - put the one 'control' student through an armchair-trivia information-based workshop and the other through my Drills Bootcamp, and send 'em both into the field.
We'll make a $20,000.00 wager and see which student outperforms which, winner takes all.
"But Vin, this sounds very advanced, I'm just starting out!"
If you're a beginner, that's great! That means you haven't had the misfortune of filling your mind up with useless junk - I personally love working with a clean slate, a tabula rasa, so to speak - ready to absorb the new learnings and behaviors like a dry sponge tossed into the Atlantic Ocean.
In fact, the only thing you'll have to worry about is coming up with a good enough explanation for all of your friends who now see you coming home with hot women night after night.
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DJ:
Upcoming 2 day inner game and storytelling programs:
This program focuses on how to take experiences from your life and convey them in an attractive, fun, and seductive way and incorporates everything from voice projection exercises to hypnotic language structures to deep inner work on who you are and what you want to convey. The first