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SHOCK and AWE: Fool's Mate Game
by Ciaran of Real Social Dynamics www.realsocialdynamics.com in association with www.jeffyshow.com
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There's a myth in this underground world we inhabit that if you sleep with a girl within minutes of meeting her, that's not solid game.
On the one hand, I agree.
If you fluke out once in a while and find some random chick who's just looking to get laid, that's not you - that's just luck.
Some guys will harp on about how great they are at getting girls because it happens to them once in a blue moon.
I speak from experience. I too was once a deluded chode.
HOWEVER.
What if it's not every once in a while?
What if you can pull chicks in minutes, consistently. And not munters (US translation: warpigs) mind. What if you can consistently pull stunning girls, rapidly?
Is that solid game?
You tell me.
In this article I will sketch out a detailed map of how to pull off "Fool's Mate" pickups with consistency and panache.
Are you sitting comfortably?
Then I'll begin.
THE BEST NATURAL I EVER MET
When I decided that I was going to get good with women, I was broke. I had no money, and I had no friends.
I'd gotten fired from my fancy job in the sandstone maze of London's Square Mile, and I was in debt. I moved to Edinburgh because I couldn't afford London rent, and I slept on my sister's couch until I found a job.
The job I found was bartending. It was good, easy work. After the nightmarish stress of the financial sector, it felt like heaven.
Besides, it also meant that I'd be talking to lots of girls.
That was good, but the real benefit I got from taking that job was a guy called Andy.
I thank God every day that my path crossed with Andy's.
Andy was amazing.
He was just jaw-dropping. He wasn't ugly, but he wasn't particularly good looking. He was an engineering student who worked in a bar.
I have never seen a man pull that well.
We became friends, and as I worked at approaching and approaching, I started to improve.
Ultimately though, it was Andy that made me great.
You see, I'd messed around with 'indirect, tactical' game, but found it weak, pointless, unnatural.
Direct game was different. Powerful, exciting, real. I found my results getting better and better.
But I was nothing compared to Andy.
You see, Andy didn't date. Ever.
He didn't date, he didn't buy girls drinks, he didn't call them, he NEVER took phone numbers.
At the age of 21, he'd already slept with over 150 women.
Engineering student.
Bartender.
ANDY'S SECRET - REVERSE ENGINEERED
One day I asked him a question. I'd just gotten tested in a massive way by this hot Swedish chick, and completely crashed out.
I ran the test by Andy. It was this:
"You just want to sleep with me, don't you?"
I offered several responses - Play it hard to get. Play it cocky. Play it sweet.
Andy just laughed at me. Then he said this:
"You know what I'd have said? I'd have said - yeah. I'll do you in every hole you've got."
He said it with a beaming grin on his face, laughing as he said it. Not joking as he said it, mind - that's important. Laughing, but not joking.
I thought about this for a time, then I began to use it. Not his line, but his attitude.
Amazingly, it worked. Even while I was testing this out, I'd rarely get blown out. And my results skyrocketed.
Toward the end of my singledom, before I met my beautiful girlfriend, I would walk out of the house alone, walk into the first busy bar I saw, walk up to the hottest chick in the room, pull her, take her home and sleep with her.
I would do this consistently, without getting blown out. One approach per night. 100% success.
Believe me or not, I don't care. It is true. I used to do it to show off to all my friends.
In the end, even Andy couldn't match me.
SHOCK and AWE
What I am about to tell you is real. I've been sitting on this for a while, because I've been in a relationship and I've been off the forums for a while.
Joining RSD's brought me back, but I recently remembered that I never released this on Cliff's List.
For all intents and purposes gentlemen, this is hot off the press.
Essentially, it's Fool's Mate game.
It's a way of getting a Fool's Mate - that is to say, a rapid seduction that takes minutes and not hours.
This was always something of a holy grail to me - I saw naturals pull consistent same night lays, and I knew that I would do that too.
I hated phone game - still do. I'm awful at it. I'm rubbish on the phone because one day after calling through 25 numbers I'd collected one afternoon and getting nothing, I decided I'd never take another phone number, no matter HOW PROMISING it seemed to be.
Same night, or nothing. That was my training rule.
Besides, I was always curious about the 'GM method'. Many of you probably have no idea what I'm talking about, but basically way back in the day there was a PUA who claimed to have cracked the Fool's Mate Code.
His 'style' was, he said, extremely 'advanced' and 'high risk'.
As such, it never caught on.
SHOCK and AWE is not high risk. It sounds like it is, but it's really not - and I'll explain why in a moment.
It's not even advanced. I'd call it intermediate. If you can open, and you can get attraction, and you can chill out and chat with a chick and not get weird - you can do this.
It is not a quick fix solution for hopeless newbies.
Sorry.
If you're having problems stringing a sentence together, if your body language sucks, if you have bad VOICE PROJECTION (this, as Jeffy points out, is crucial to all game) - this will not work.
However, if you're plateauing somewhere in the intermediate stages, (or if you just hate getting phone numbers like I do) this might be EXACTLY what you need.
I never felt that GM method, or any other Fool's Mate method were very well explained.
Hardcore insta-pickups seem always to be written as very high-risk things for, well, Grand Masters.
I wanted to provide something much simpler, something easier that is devastatingly effective and instantly useable.
So here it is, gentlemen. Shock and Awe.
IT'S ALL SO SIMPLE
A good friend of mine once asked, regarding pickup - "Why isn't this easy?"
The answer is, as he pointed out, that it is easy. We just make it complex.
Shock and Awe is, very simply, something I developed out of SOIing too much when I was closing a chick down so I could kiss her/grab her and leave/whatever.
I developed a very specific kind of SOI (statement of intent) that covers your back socially while allowing you to come out with the most outrageous stuff - stuff that gets her very horny, very fast.
I'd use principles from this to sex up the vibe of a conversation with a chick if it was getting dull. The point is though, you don't need to do that.
I realised that you can open with it. You can open, and then drop straight into a continual SOI loop and close a chick straight down very fast. It's a kind of vibe, you can feel when you've hit it because it's electric. You can just go ape from the outset and drive her crazy, then take her home.
THE MECHANICS OF FOOL'S MATE GAME
This is a very basic sketch of Shock and Awe.
Basically, BEING OPEN about your desire and BLAMING THE CHICK for being hot is dynamite.
Toward the end of my pickup rampage I had developed a whole new kind of game around doing just this one thing.
I called it Shock and Awe, because it is shocking, awesome, and if you nail it you can pull a chick extremely quickly. It's mental. I love it. I stopped doing it for a while because it got boring.
No, really.
The final thing to understand before we get to the nitty gritty of what to do is this:
The SOIs you use in Shock and Awe aren't really SOIs as such.
You're not making a "Statement of Interest." You're not making a "Statement Of Intent."
You're stating your DESIRE.
This is a whole 'nuther level of important. There's not "I intend to sleep with you" or "I am interested in you". This is you talking about your DESIRE alone. That is all. How hot she is. How sexy she is. How awesome her body is.
Just pure sex, right from the outset.
ENOUGH FOREPLAY: HERE IT IS...
To map the basic structure of Shock and Awe it would be
1) APPROACH WITH AN SOI THEN SOI STACK, BLAMING HER HOTNESS FOR YOUR ACTIONS.
Make sure they are creative and funky SOIs. Think of it like jazz. SOI jazz. Free form, just go for it. Say anything. It's not important. What is important is that you blame her for being hot. Say something like
"Excuse me, but WHAT? What do you WANT? Do you want me to just walk on BY? I mean, you're absolutely STUNNING. Do you want me to just PRETEND like that doesn't effect me? I mean, HOW? I'm just some GUY. I can't turn it off. What are you trying to DO to me, woman?" etc....
You're not shouting, BTW - keep it cool. Capitalisation just there for emphasis.
2) ALWAYS BE ESCALATING PHYSICALLY, ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS.
Blame her for the fact you can't keep your hands off her. Act like you're trying to keep your hands of her and you just can't. Blame her more. Ask her why she's doing this to you. Physically fight your urge to touch her, and make this conflict OBVIOUS. You are a wild animal STRAINING against a tight fucking leash. You're in control... but BARELY.
Don't fake this. Really get into this headspace. This is the key to the whole thing, and if you are in ANY doubt how to do that, click here: www.jeffyshow.com
3) EXPRESS DESIRE, DO THIS RELENTLESSLY AND BLAME HER FOR IT.
Tell her you deserve a gold star for effort for not jumping all over her. Keep it funny, but make sure the vibe is highly erotic. Remember - LAUGHING, NOT JOKING. Tell her that if she doesn't stop being hot you're not going be held responsible. Tell her to eat a load of pies, and gain 5 stone so you can connect with her personality without wanting to tear all her clothes off.
4) IF YOU PUSH IT TOO FAR, APOLOGISE FOR THE DISRESPECT AND NOT THE ACTION.
Genuinely apologise. Really. Actually do this and MEAN IT.
But remember - ONLY apologise for the DISRESPECT.
NEVER apologise for the ACTION/SOI/KINO.
Then tell her you did it because she's really hot. Blame her for being hot. Tell her she should wear a bag over her head so you can have a normal conversation with her.
5) GO TO STEP 2.
You can basically do this until she breaks. It's great.
Just remember guys, use a condom.
ARE YOU SERIOUS? IS IT REALLY THAT SIMPLE?
Honest to God, have consistently pulled hot chicks with this. It's not infallible, but it's hilarious and it blows through all the BS.
CAN I DO THIS IN A GROUP OF GIRLS?
Yup. It's a different ball game though.
GROUP SHOCK AND AWE.
S+A the entire group as an opener and then drop into a highly charged comfort phase.
This is actually really easy.
This is also how you NEUTRALIZE ALL RISK associated with being so extreme.
You just say something like "No - no, this is ridiculous. I'm going to find out who you are. You can't do this to me. I have depth. Tell me about yourself."
And then they do (either that or they demand to know who you are, but it's all in good fun) and boom, you're chatting. It acts like an explosive, funny, charming group opener.
They usually then fight it out amongst themselves for who gets to bang you, or you can hit on one especially if you like her.
DO I NEED LOTS OF ISOLATION?
Isolation? Sure, you need it, but you don't need much, especially in a club or a bar.
Normal rules apply - I wouldn't go for the kill on a chick in a seated set, just set the vibe then chill back, stay in contention and wait for an opening.
If it's a loud club, you can claw a chick close to you for isolation, or just lean in.
Basically, you don't need to be slavish about this. A few feet of distance will do it. Remember - SHOCK and AWE. As soon as you start you kick off this electric vibe.
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE VIBE, ABOUT MAGNIFYING THE VIBE
And the vibe is generated from the fact that she's so sexy she's breaking you down, but you're resisting. That's where the tension comes from.
HOW IMPORTANT IS IT TO BLAME THE CHICK FOR YOUR EXTREME ACTIONS?
This is the heart of it. You are talking direct, but you're blaming her hotness for your directness.
As such, it's like two different levels of compliment, both of which are highly unusual and extremely difficult to resist.
You're basically telling her it's totally out of character for you to behave like this and you're fighting it, but you're really, really struggling.
This isn't an academic issue. THIS FRAME IS HOW YOU AVOID ASD WHEN GOING FOR A FOOL'S MATE. The frame is, she is breaking down your resolve with her hotness. This is massive. Why?
Because it defuses so many negative things.
First off, her ASD can't really kick in. Why not? Because she's not doing anything, and neither are you. You're just complimenting her. No girl is going to walk away from someone just because he says she's hot, not unless she's a nutter.
Secondly, it's a female fantasy. She's the femme fatale, destroying your resistance. The more fight you put up, the more resistance to her you express, and the more you lose this battle, the more she feels sexy.
YOU SAY I SHOULD KINO ESCALATE - HOW?
Look - you've gotta be savvy with it, but anyone who's good with girls will tell you that you can get very tactile very quickly as long as you aren't being weird.
Don't paw her. Slide your fingertips along her arms. Take her hand in yours, really, really lightly (this is killer). Glide your hands on her skin. Hardly touch her at all. Even move your hands toward her waist then pull them back as if dragging them back against resistance (don't be weird, it's all kinda tongue in cheek) and then give up. Then pull them back again. Then berate her more for being hot.
SHOULD YOU DO THIS AFTER A NORMAL OPENER?
I don't know what a normal opener is. I usually rock up and say hi, then blurt out something and play it by ear. Opening with this is sick though. You have to try it.
DON'T YOU NEED ZEN-MASTER LEVELS OF CALIBRATION?
No. You just have to be "not completely terrible."
Look - fair enough, calibration is important, but CALIBRATION DOES NOT MEAN HESITATION. You should be leading the encounter. Lead it. It goes where you go. You're the man.
WON'T THIS BREAK TOO MANY SOCIAL RULES?
That's WHY it works.
Yes - seriously.
The fact that you blame her means that she has to justify it as not being her fault.
But how can she do that? Is she going to say "I'm not that hot?"
No. She is a woman. She will, instead, love it.
It's a female fantasy, she's annihilating you with her looks alone. You're resisting but she's breaking you down.
They love it. Seriously, it's great.
DO I HAVE TO GO FOR BROKE EVERY TIME I USE THIS?
No. You can drop out of it any time with the line I gave you earlier
Also, this doesn't have to be used as such a high-octane thing.
Try dropping a little of it in here and there. See what happens. Learn to calibrate it. The vibe you want is half sexy mocking, half pure sex.
It is all about that vibe.
You can tell when you're good to go in for a kiss because she'll start darting in toward your lips then veering off, pretending it was by accident.
I call this "The Dive."
When you see this, grab her by the back of the neck and kiss the heck out of her.
SO ARE YOU SAYING I CAN JUST DO THIS?
Yup.
It's amazing how well this attitude defuses all the negative things about being really direct with girls.
And once you've defused them, boom - you can basically cut through all the tactics and just blast her with desire until she breaks.
WHAT IF I RUN OUT OF THINGS TO SAY?
A big part of this is about getting creative with your compliments. I don't want to give too many actual examples of stuff, mainly because the stuff you say doesn't have to be 'Da Vinci'.
This is NOT a routine-based method.
It is a direct method, a way of cultivating an attitude of non-weird, engaging, sexual expression. You can do it high octane and go for the Fool's Mate, or you can do it low-octane and just drop Shock and Awe SOI's in as and when in the context of chatting up a lovely young lady.
Sometimes you can strip it right down and say "You're really hot" to a girl, but in a kind of bolshy, accusing tone, almost like you're affronted by that fact. Like it's unfair, or out of context, or like she's just doing it to piss you off.
That works too.
Another one that I came up with that I thought was great (and makes a brilliant opener) is when I'm talking to a chick, to just look at her boobs, look back at her eyes, and then in my best Hugh Grantish voice say "I'm terribly sorry, I just totally checked you out."
They'll usually laugh and say "that's ok." or something. Then you can drop straight into S+A and say "It's your fault. You're totally stunning. I'm just some guy. I can't stand up to this kind of artillery."
I love saying that. The artillery thing. It's almost my trademark. Never got a bad reaction, ever. Not once.
SO I'VE JUST GOT TO BE FUNNY?
NO.
This is not a set of jokes.
It is a flow, a constant flow of jazz where the one thing goes into the other.
Occasionally the girl will coquettishly say "I'm sorry" when you blame her for being hot, to which you can blast back with "You're not sorry at all." And then she'll usually giggle.
Bless.
WARNING - GET YOUR INNER GAME SORTED OUT FIRST
There's something important that I want to say here.
I knew a guy who had major issues with women, really negative stuff. You know, when a guy gets vindictive, or harbours a grudge against women because they've never wanted him.
I showed him S+A, and pulled a couple of chicks in front of him so he could see it. He wanted to have a go.
It wasn't good.
When I watched him do this, you could actually see that he really was actually angry. It was scary and weird. We talked through a lot of it, but I realized that IF YOU DO ACTUALLY HARBOUR ACTUAL AGGRESSION OR RESENTMENT TOWARD WOMEN, THIS COMES ACROSS AND THEY WILL FREAK AND RUN.
Women are lovely. Remember this.
Just so everyone, especially guys who are absolutely starting out on this understand, there is no actual anger or malice involved in this. It's hard to convey voice tone over the Internet, so I'm going to spell this one out.
This is totally critical. It probably doesn't really need to be said on this list because this is a cool place, but I wanted to make that explicit. If you are actually angry with women, you need to really address that before you do anything else, and certainly before you start pulling out stuff like this.
This is a way of expressing how much you desire a woman without weirding her out. THAT IS BASICALLY ALL S+A IS. It's just a highly concentrated way of doing it.
I know you guys get that here, I just wanted to get it in black and white so everyone's on the same page.
SO IF I DO THIS A CHICK WILL JUST JUMP ME?
If you do it right, very often she will, yes. HOWEVER - it's impossible to predict who will and who won't.
Depends on a million things. It can be very rapid, or it can take a while.
The beauty of this is that if it seems like she's not just in the mood to leap all over you, you can drop the S+A and just have a chat. Again, that line to segue into a more normal (though highly charged conversation is...
"no, you're not going to break me. I have depth. I'm going to get to know you properly, and there's nothing you can do about it. Tell me about yourself."
I'VE HEARD I SHOULDN'T GET GIRLS HORNY TILL WE'RE ALONE?
Disregard that utter garbage.
You get her properly BLAZING. Some guys will say that you should be tactical about this kind of thing.
I just can't be bothered.
As far as I see it, there's no point messing around when you're messing around with women.
WOW! THIS SOUNDS AMAZING! FINALLY! THE MAGIC PILL!
Nope. It's not a magic pill. As I said, this will only work for guys who are already reasonably comfortable with approaching.
If you're looking at this thinking "Awesome - now I don't have to do all those tricky approaches" then you're heading for a fall.
This takes guts.
Ok?
You need to get some guts, and you can only do that by approaching lots and lots of chicks and becoming cool with approaching.
Understand?
It's a Fool's Mate Game system that GENUINELY WORKS - but it is not the ANSWER to your PRAYERS.
Here's a good rule of thumb. If you're looking at this and getting excited because you think it's cool, odds are you're going to be able to do it.
If you're looking at this thinking it's the meaning of life, you're still a newbie and you need to get some experience.
Sorry.
OK, FAIR PLAY CIARAN. SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD TECHNIQUE THOUGH.
It's not a technique. It is a mode of sexual expression.
I mapped out the stages just to give you a feel of what to do, but I hope you guys can see that this isn't a tactical thing. This is what happens when you say "forget tactics" and just go for it.
I originally came out with this on a chick who was just ludicrously hot, amazing eyes, dress, legs, face, teeth, ears, nasal hair - the works. I was in an absolutely chipper mood, nimbus aglow, just on top form.
I opened by telling her that it was ridiculous to expect me to just walk on by with her looking like that. She smiled, so I kept on saying the same kind of thing. Next thing I know she's kissing me.
What I'm saying is that this HAS TO BE GENUINE. Direct game, if not genuine, is seedy, manipulative weirdness.
S+A is a vibe. It is a route of expression.
The inner game stuff, the practise - all that jazz, is the iceberg. This is the tip.
This is not a short cut.
IT'S JUST NOT A MASSIVE DETOUR, which a lot of highly tactical systems are.
I'm certain that if you've never done anything like this before it is scary, so just understand that there are several elements to this that go on behind the scenes.
One is your general abilities of self-expression and creative speech. This is something that Jeffy explains brilliantly, so read his stuff, copy it, buy The Jeffy Show (www.jeffyshow.com) and watch it constantly. The other big part of it is sexual expression, for which I'd also recommend The Jeffy Show.
CLOSING STATEMENTS
Shock and Awe is the pinnacle of direct game as I practice it.
Fool's Mate game.
No BS, no tactics, just straight in there, make a girl feel really hot, have great fun with her, be cool, go back to your/her place and do the hunka-chunka. Problem solved.
This isn't about tricking girls into stuff, or playing them. If you try that, you'll fail, and I will personally batter you senseless with your own shoes.
This is about refusing to be a leaf in the hurricane.
This is about being the hurricane, gentlemen.
Forget the leaf, my friends.
Be the hurricane.
Ever Yours
Ciaran
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- Brother Kermit has just published I'm A Man, That's My Job: The Philosophy of a Seducer, A Complete Inner Game Workbook. Here is the link: www.lulu.com/content/875062 You can buy it for $49.95 US. It has all the lists, plus more. The rules of relationships The base life philosophies AND A description of the 10 stages of development from Loser to Seducer to Natural. This book also has charts to track your development.
- Most dating "gurus" talk about inner game, but fall far short in actually providing you with practical solutions for solving your inner game issues. With his Hypnotica's program, "Ultimate Inner Game", you can transform your mind and emotions in just days! www.ultimateinnergame.com/
- DiClassified DRILLS! Vin DiCarlo of DiCarlo DiClassified has released his new drill-based training, which boasts a total of 36+ real time drills specifically designed for pick-up training. Drills based-training develops your game in a way that is systematic, effective, personalized, natural and best of all, fun! The curriculum can be found at www.vindicarlo.com/
- Want to master your sex life? Male escort and liv e s ex performer NathanX leads a team of male and female s ex instructors in their intensive and popular workshop “Sexual Mastery for Men”. They teach what 99.9% of guys do not know and will never know. Where PUA skills end, sexual mastery skills begin. PUA skills enable you to get the girl. Sexual and relationship management enables you to keep her in the sort of relationships you want. Workshops also include a live demonstration
of techniques! What they teach at MYSL is the real deal. No one else in the world is teaching what they teach. Free videos, audios and blog. www.masteryoursexlife.com/
- Doc, a featured speaker at both the 2005 & 2006 Cliff's List Conventions, is holding seminars. For more info go to his new site at www.TrueLifeSkills.com.
- Cardinal just wanted to let you know that he's going to release The Cardinal Flight Plan (CFP) Ebook soon. He's so confident that this book is going to be a hit, he's going to offer the first 25 people a free copy! Yup, the first 25 people to visit Seductiontech.com will get a free copy. He will send out a mass email once he officially releases the CFP... Go to Seductiontech.com and sign-up for his newsletter, and be sure to watch your email.
- In the Toronto area Christiano has been teaching men to work from their inner game to outer game in a way that is congruent to their identity. Most see results after being taught the skills in the workshop immediately. Find out more by visiting: bestnaturalgame.com.
- Ron Louis & David Copeland have put out a new ebook "How to be the Bad Boy Women Love." Find out more at howtosucceedwithwomen.com/htg/
- New Book/Audio release: "Park Bench Dating." Are you currently meeting women in the day time? Do you know how easy it is to get a quality number in a few minutes, just as you go through your day? Written by Art, an NYC dating coach, who came from PUA community and turned pure natural. Covered by The New York Times and ABC Television, his methods of meeting in the day time are so effective simply because they are so easy to use everyday. www.ParkBenchDating.com
- Uncle Ruckus has started a new youtube show called "The Nice Guy Show" and he'd like for you to watch. You can also visit his home page at www.adviceonwomen.com. He plugs Cliff's List on a recent one, too!
- Society "Of Cool" - Description of Group: Simple: This place is for all of you dudes and chicks who are rad cool and want to step their game up in life with wealth building(money) and relationship building (women/men). Living a healthy lifestyle is considered "cool" as well.. This place is ONLY FOR COOL PEOPLE. If you are a beta male, chump, nerd, loser, you are getting your a$$ banned! Visit this Link: www.spiritual-seduction.com/phpBB2/index.php?c=1
- Here's a neat one, originally proposed to me by Johnny Soporno. Take one of these pills daily (male or female) and taste sweet:http://sweetsecretions.com/cgi-bin/ustorekeeper.pl?rtn=afi1449
- Gigi has just launched a new website: www.puaratings.com PUA Ratings evolves around a rating system for PUA products, where you can rate and write your own reviews about your favorite (and not so favorite) seduction products or bootcamps, and read what others have to say about them, before you make a purchase. The site also features a 'PUA Comparison Engine', a tool that will become more and more viable as more reviews enter the system. There's also a forum and a live chat where live events will be hosted. So make your opinion count - sharpen your keyboards and start writing reviews!
- Rion Williams has announced and released his pioneering 'Secret to Women' video, downloadable eBook and podcast. Something as ambitious as that just has to be seen for yourself. www.secretofwomen.com/resources.htm. Rion has also released the community/content site 'AboveTheGame.NET.' Its got articles, blogs, user profiles, an active forum, chat and more. You can even create your own blog and submit your own dating/seduction content or questions. The community is focused on how to be a 'natural' ladies man. www.abovethegame.net
- Herbal, one of the characters made famous by The Game, has finally released an ebook after taking some time away from the community. He also offers a free 10 Day E-Mail Bootcamp." For more information, visit www.makeherchaseyou.com/
- Captain Jack has a couple of new products out, check these out:
1) The Warrior-King Society: Freedom, Money, Sex and Power Crush Previous Income Levels, Recapture Lost Sexual Vigor and Health, Rediscover Your Innate Masculine Instincts and Drive So You CanDominate Your World and Become King of Your Own Ideal Life --Like You were Destined To...
Captain Jack's Warrior King Society: www.thewarriorkingsociety.com/
2) Captain Jack's Six Week eCoaching Program for Discovering How to Sexualize Your Game, Blast Through Sticking Points and Build a Social Circle in Just 42 Days
www.betheseducer.com/
- Cardinal (www.Seductiontech.com): Puanetwork.com Web 2.0 Live! I just wanted to let you know that the New Web2.0 Version of the Puanetwork is up and live. Since the show aired, the puanetwork has really picked up! Ignore my PUN =) Come join the fastest growing social networking site for the community!
- How to be an all-around cooler person - completely free, practical advice for guys on social skills, getting along with people, and getting your act together - all written by a recovered loser. Not everyone will need to read the material here, but take a look if you think you could benefit from improving your people skills before diving into the seduction game. Feel free to check it out at www.howtobecooler.com
- Jordan has a new podcast out about pickup. The content is, and will continue to be, 100% free and doesn't push any particular method or commercial product/workshop, etc. The website is www.pickuppodcast.com
- LayGuide was the original inspiration for Neil Strauss to write "The Game" and is still the most thorough and continually updated collection of the best dating, attraction and seduction tips in the world: www.layguide.com/
- In The Game by Neil Strauss, "TwoTimer" is talked about as one of the top players. His more commonly known handle is IN10SE, and his "Octoberman Sequence" has been whispered about and become a LEGEND in the on-line Pickup artist community. It's rumored to give a woman ULTIMATE pleasure and you ULTIMATE control - in as little as 15 minutes! Only the BEST of the BEST know it. Check it out here: www.octoberman.com/
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Blake Richards has put out a new ebook that looks very interesting. Check it out here: www.social-mastery.com/Game.html
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Real Social Dynamics WORKSHOPS:
I highly recommend that you check these guys out. They are in the final stages of producing their long-awaited e-book.
Real Social Dynamics (www.realsocialdynamics.com/):
Learn what works in seminar, and then jump directly into the field and watch the instructors demonstrate and teach it live. Stop feeling the fear of not knowing what to do ...
Individualized Bootcamps
Sign up and get more info here: www.realsocialdynamics.com/)
Real Social Dynamics has just launched its new website, forum communities, and Foundations DVD/CD set. This is the most comprehensive program they've delivered at a seminar and they were fortunate to have recorded it as well. Visitors can check out the new forum or get the new Foundations home study course at www.realsocialdynamics.com/
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Mystery book, training videos + scholarship for YOU?
Hey,
I'm kind of jammed up right now, so I'll make this short.
Here's the story:
Mystery just made an announcement that you're going to want to know about:
I don't want to spoil the surprise, but I'll give you a couple of hints.
1. He's giving you a 34 page v-book (the v is for video – this book has seven killer videos – including 2 with Mystery hidden camera, in field COLD APPROACH pick-up!)
2. Mystery's also giving you the chance to win a scholarship for training that others have paid $10,000 for.
Here's how to get it fr*e:
Go here and Mystery will take you by the hand from there…
Here's the inside scoop:
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A MYSTERY BRAIN TRANSPLANT?
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This v-book, "Mystery's Magnum Opus," contains 34 pages and 7 videos of pure brain-dump, all about Mystery.
Here it is in pdf form:
All you have to do is go to this site and Mystery will walk you through EXACTLY how to get the v-book.
Here's what it includes:
*** The astonishing story Joe D told us that happened the very first week of the Vh1 show
...and how a single lesson changed his life forever.
(It's so simple it's almost embarrassing.) - Page 9 , video.
*** What guys in the pick-up community call the Holy Grail of seduction. And how Mystery uses it like a crystal ball it allows him to look into the future. (Mike Long saw him "predict the future" and it totally freaked him out - until he realized the genius behind it.) - Page 12.
*** The surprising story behind the scenes of Brady's instant-stripper hook-up.(And the reason that he says ANY guy can be successful, no matter what.)
- Page 17, video
*** Watch the video that over 331,381 and counting guys have studied in the last couple of months. (Hint, it's Mystery doing what he loves to do best.)
-Page 13 video.
*** The heart felt story Kosmo exposed moments after the final episode... and the technique that put him over the top. (You'll find out how this little trick finally gave Kosmo CHOICE)
- Page 23, video.
Plus much much more..
Here's your complimentary v-book:
Just click on this link and follow Mystery's step-by-step instructions from there.
Gotta jam.
Talk Soon,
Mike Long
Area51lifestyle.com
P.S.
Did I mention that Mystery is giving away over $10,000 worth of step-by-step, A-to-Z training and hand-holding?
It's all in the v-book that Mystery created for you:
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Hypnotica!
I keep hearing about it... "The Secret", "The Secret", "The Secret". There's not a day that goes by that I don't hear something about the book or the movie.
But there's a problem with its concept of positive thinking and expecting success. After you've read the book or have watched the video you can be full of confidence and overflowing with the most positive attitude, but all that only lasts until you have your first encounter with the real world. For example seeing a hot, sexy woman who you want to approach, but you just can't find enough guts to go over and approach her.
Is being a "positive thinker" or "expecting success" bad advice? Not at all... when done in the proper context. If you want to maintain an attitude of expecting positive outcomes, then it needs to be rooted DEEPLY in your mind.
If you want to succeed with women, you can't simply adopt a "positive attitude," walk around "expecting success" and greeting the world with a smile -- you have to condition your subconscious mind to ALLOW you to take the proper actions necessary for you to be successful.
You can learn all the pick-up and seduction techniques in the world, but if your "inner game" is weak and your subconscious mind doesn't believe you deserve the kind of success you want, you'll never have it. That's the problem with most pick-up and seduction products... you don't get the proper tools to handle your "inner game."
Once you have that handled, then you'll really have something to smile about... results! You can walk into a room and radiate the kind of confidence, charm, and power that really turns women on.
For years Hypnotica has been providing private "inner game" coaching to students from all over the world, including the legendary Neil Strauss. Hypnotica's teaching (which he's been charging as much as $5,000 for) has powerfully changed the love lives of everyone who has learned it. These same students have convinced him to put the best and most cutting edge techniques for PERMANENT AND IMMEDIATE CHANGE into a new product called "Ultimate Inner Game."
Inside you will find life-changing exercises that will catapult the confident, attractive and successful person inside you into effortless natural ACTION.
Are you ready to finally discover how to have SUCCESS with women that you've always dreamed of?
Then go to www.ultimateinnergame.com/ right now to find out more.
P.S. As you think about going to www.ultimateinnergame.com/ and discover how you can have the confidence and power with women you've always wanted, won't it be nice to know you can finally have this part of your life handled? Once you've done that you can sit back, relax, take a deep breath, and think to yourself... "At last I'm on my way to kick-ass results with women!"
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Doc is promoting his new DVDs and Workshop Schedule
DVDs: I am just releasing my 3-DVD set The Dating manual for men that covers everything from Creating a high impact 1st impression (using style to convey personality and create attraction instantly), Creating the right Chemistry with a woman (how women think and how to create an unforgettable experience and lasting attraction), and Overcoming personal roadblocks (improving confidence, self-esteem and overcoming negative programming).
Workshops: Doc's 3-day transformational workshop puts the emphasis on BECOMING the man that naturally attracts women, without tricks, gimmicks or pickup lines. Most men will ruin their chances with women BEFORE they even leave the house because they are not aware of what they project and how people see them. Your transformation will start with a complete style makeover to make a high impact first impression and create instant attraction. Next, we get you working one on one with our female dating coaches who help you fine tune your body language and conversational skills, followed by a group outing with our wing-women who will be by your side to
coach you in real life. Our 3rd day covers everything your need to become a sensual man and keep her coming back for more: erotic techniques and sexual mastery.
Register at www.TrueLifeSkills.com
Dates to be announced for Toronto, Seattle, Chicago and other North American cities soon.
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Mystery Method Workshops:
What method are YOU using?
If you are opening groups (or sets: 2-sets, 3-sets, mixed sets, etc) of people with the 3 second rule by stacking indirect openers (including false opinion openers), false time constraining (discovered by Style), demonstrating a higher value to your romantic interest’s peer group with high octane DHVs while she obliquely observes (locking her into her own set with a prop), and simultaneously performing false disqualifiers (which include negs) on her with the intension of disarming her peer group and then isolating her to rebuild her self-esteem once you have enough IOIs (indicators of interest) so you may share in a comfort and trust building effort and then build in a jealousy subplot to solidify her attraction for you, you are using The Mystery Method.
If instead you are only approaching women who are alone, you are greatly limiting your options and quite likely alienating your target's friends. Do you want a lonely woman (why is she lonely?) or a woman who already has a healthy social lfe? Truth is, healthy women have healthy relationships ... sometimes good friendships with guys. Like it or not, you will have to meet these women with men in her group.
Women of beauty are rarely found alone. Don't miss the opportunity to meet and attract them WITH social proof from her very own peer group. Group Approach Theory improves your options and increases the chances for attraction DRAMATICALLY over Single Approach Theory (SAT).
The guys who are GREAT in this game KNOW that they can improve their game ten-fold through seminars and personal coaching in-field workshops. Think about this: Why did so many of the greats who use Mystery's GAT (Style, Tyler D., MTL_PUA, and others) take MM seminars and workshops? What started them off to greatness in this game? Can you see the co-relation may in fact be a causation?
If you have NEVER taken a seminar or workshop before, it's time to finally reconsider. They are life-transforming. Workshops and seminars were for many of the greats THE difference between great success and failure. If you are ready, visit www.themysterymethod.com/magicbullets.html
Tenmagnet is doing Mystery Method workshops in Toronto and Montreal.
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Diabolik:
"Introducing: The Seduction Community Toolbar...An Invitation To An Unusual Experiment"
I got this strange idea about a month ago and ran it by some of my closest PUA friends. Everyone thought having a community toolbar would be great. So I built one and here's what's on it:
All the major forums, all the major gurus, all the major blogs are there.
It has all the important community sites I could think of basically.
You simply push a button and you're there.
Not only that, I built a little search engine into the thing so when you're researching tactics and techniques, the results will be precisely targeted.
No more wading through a bunch of stuff that has nothing to do with what you're looking for.
Ever try to research "frame control" and ended up getting results that had to do with painting? Me too.
Another great thing is this is a community project. If you think something should be added -- It will be done.
The goal is for it to grow and grow as time goes on. If you don't see one of your favorite sites, just shoot me an email and I'll add it.
I can be reached at: jointheconspiracy@gmail.com
It's available for both Internet Explorer and Firefox and takes like 2 seconds to install.
Go here to access the download page - www.diabolikseduction.com/the-seduction-community-toolbar-by-diabolik/
I look forward to hearing your feedback, this is a labor of love.
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The DiClassified Drills Bootcamp gives you:
The best inner game program available to date
It has been said that all game is inner game. Now, I'm not sure I agree with that completely, but I do know that small improvements to inner game yields huge returns in progress and ability.
When you train with DiClassified Drills under instructor supervision, and get personalized attention for each drill, we guarantee that you will be using the correct delivery, emotional energy and language during the bootcamp. Your cognitive function is literally forced to change right then and there. No more waiting for six weeks of fieldwork and practice.
(Although six weeks of practice would take your results even further)
Because DiClassified Drills makes such profound changes to inner game, combined with drilling down your execution of techniques until they are near-flawless, the changes can be quite dramatic.
"But Vin, I have X problem! (X = short, fat, old, ugly, bald, broke)"
Listen man. I hear this a lot. And I'll tell you the same thing I tell everyone else.
This program was designed by ME for guys with above-average intelligence. Now, I'm being very serious with you now, because I don't want you to waste your time or money.
If you have a learning disability, or have had trouble learning things in the past like academic courses, sports, music or anything else that requires attention, motivation and hands-on activity, then you may fail.
I'm not saying you'll never get women, or get laid, but this bootcamp is not the best way for you to do it.
DiClassified Drills was specifically designed to give intelligent guys a distinct edge, an undeniable upper hand, an unfair advantage but it leverages our strong desire and intellect to do that. It's not a magic pill for just anyone.
Your Success = YOUR(Desire + Intelligence) + Drills Participation.
Check it out-> www.vindicarlo.com/
The best type of training for developing top notch conversational mastery
And it's pretty damn obvious. Drills based training wins every time.
Each and every drill works to improve and clean up your communications, which means - greater conversational control, greater conversational awareness, greater social and emotional intelligence, higher thresholds for stress and anxiety, stronger more confident sub-communications, better more positive energy, enhanced facility in leading conversations... the list goes on.
Bring me any two guys of comparable skill level - put the one 'control' student through an armchair-trivia information-based workshop and the other through my Drills Bootcamp, and send 'em both into the field.
We'll make a $20,000.00 wager and see which student outperforms which, winner takes all.
"But Vin, this sounds very advanced, I'm just starting out!"
If you're a beginner, that's great! That means you haven't had the misfortune of filling your mind up with useless junk - I personally love working with a clean slate, a tabula rasa, so to speak - ready to absorb the new learnings and behaviors like a dry sponge tossed into the Atlantic Ocean.
In fact, the only thing you'll have to worry about is coming up with a good enough explanation for all of your friends who now see you coming home with hot women night after night.
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DJ:
Upcoming 2 day inner game and storytelling programs:
This program focuses on how to take experiences from your life and convey them in an attractive, fun, and seductive way and incorporates everything from voice projection exercises to hypnotic language structures to deep inner work on who you are and what you want to convey. The first day is inner game intensive while the second day focuses on the mechanics of storytelling for a truly *complete* experience
I've received so many requests to build in some of the "old school" material on value elicitation and creating a rapport that invites her to open up to you, that I've decided to build it into this program. There will be a special section on moving from flash attraction to true connection. Please contact me for a flier with more details!
I’m offering special discounts for these programs so please email me for details at dj_seminar@yahoo.com...
I hope everyone is well and I look forward to hearing from you. Feel free to drop a line to say hello…
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DR. PAUL SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT:
This is your big chance to learn the bottom line in dating. You can bridge the gap between who you are and who you want to be. In an industry increasingly dominated by hype, I want to make a rare move and speak very plainly about what distinguishes the 7th Sense Seminar(TM) from other training in self help and social skills.
When you think about it, everything relevant to your love life simply breaks down into three areas of understanding and mastery: You, her, and the interaction between you. Here’s what you’ll learn:
You…
The core technology I’ve taught for years is known as MindOS. I called it the operating system of the human mind for a reason. If you start to dig into psychology you see patterns and predictable responses to life, a sort of biological machinery. People are often frustrated when they learn this and feel trapped in their own head as they struggle again and again with the same problems. What makes the difference, and what I teach as a board certified psychologist, is the connection and pattern that goes beyond the different theories of psychology.
This isn’t an arm chair notion. I’ve used my approach to the mind to produce profound change in patients for over a decade, refining it into a system that is easy to understand and use. It’s no surprise that what works for people with huge challenges in therapy works even better and faster for those who are already functional people looking for change.
You have the rare opportunity to truly work on your life from the “inside out” by mastering yourself, rather than looking at the surface behaviors. Many dating coaches are, in effect, teaching you to be an actor with a very specific role. Is that really what calls to you in life, or do you want more?
Her…
One of the criticisms you may have seen on T.V. when people respond to guru’s teaching about “seduction” is the claim that women are “objectified.” If you don’t look at people as individuals, you’re cheating yourself of a lot of the joy you can have. Do you know anybody who obsesses over every interaction they have with a girl? Has their view of dating become rigid and mechanical?
The bottom line is that individuality matters, and you can’t approach every woman with the same mindset. You can increase your success with women, your peace of mind and your mental health by learning more about others. At the 7th Sense Seminar(TM) you’ll learn a revolutionary system of understanding personality types known as KWML(TM). This stands for King, Warrior, Magician and Lover.
KWML™ has an advantage over other personality profiling systems because it can be used quickly, in the moment and out in the open. It doesn’t require lengthy questionnaires or tests like a traditional Myers-Briggs. You can learn to get a true sense of a person’s motivations and needs in an instant just by talking and keeping your eyes open. This lets you give people what they need at a deep level, and helps you predict the challenges and rewards of dating a particular girl from day one.
When you master this system of understanding personality, you’ll have the key that lets you look at yourself and others objectively. Understanding people will always be a puzzle to be solved, but you can learn to see how the pieces fit.
You and Her…
You’ve probably noticed that a lot of attention is given to the surface interactions in dating. Men’s advice has focused on things to say and ways to behave. Women’s advice has focused on how to look and “rules” for dating. With DatingOS, you have the chance to put it all together and understand the real connection that binds dating behavior to inner psychology. This is the model of human courtship.
Courtship covers all the elements of evolutionary psychology, biology, sociology and culture that bring a man and a woman from attraction and friendship to a possible long term or sexual connection. DatingOS is the premium model for understanding human sexuality.
What does it all mean? When you combine real skill at self mastery, deep insight into other people as individuals, and a solid grasp of the real science of human courtship, you will know all that you need to change your life, not only with women but in everything.
The 7th Sense Seminar (TM) also includes more time with live coaching than other social trainers, nearly a full 24 hours dedicated to practice, workshops and field work. This is in addition to all the seminar and classroom training.
Put it all together and you have more deep education and more practical applications than you can find anywhere else. To see the full sales description and checkout all the details, visit doctorpaul.net/products.htm. See you there
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The new technology (DatingOS) Dr. Paul is unleashing on the world completely explains what your hangups are, not only in "hooking up" or "approaching," but through the dating process and deep into relationships. This doesn't exist anywhere else, nor will it, because Dr Paul has gone through twenty years of both psychiatric clinical training, seen 15,000 patients with problems of both a "dating" nature, AND comprehensively solves deep problems that people have with sexual attraction, commitment, marriage, breakups, relationships, trauma, depression, anxiety disorders, ADD, OCD, career complications, cheating and betrayal.
If you want permanent RESULTS, you may need some real science, and the same fun time you have at other seminars of course, with more mastery of ALL psychology of dating—INNER GAME, OUTER GAME, and never before seen PROFILING of women for perfect fit to your personality.
So far, DatingOS has only been available in person, at seminars in the heart of the city of SINGLES, in summertime after a bitter winter has all females in a frenzy of cabin fever. See doctorpaul.net/products.htm
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Herbal, one of the characters made famous by The Game, has finally released an ebook Make Her Chase You after taking some time away from the community. He also offers a free 10 Day E-Mail Bootcamp.. For more information, visit www.makeherchaseyou.com/
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The Attraction Magnet:
Not a seduction program. Delivers you to 'the right place at the right time'. To understand the methods employed, realize that at some level, still not fully understood, all subconsciousness has access to a larger 'mind' and knows where opportunities for the fulfillment of certain potentialities lie.
How To Find New Potential Mates By Being In The Right Place At The Right Time?
Can listening to a subliminal tape direct your steps to an event where you will meet someone special ? Yes.
This isn't one of those programs you play and are able to seduce someone. Beware of any ads that read that way. It implies you would have to keep them hostage for a long time. (We sometimes wish this technology would work this fast, but then change our minds when the misuses are considered.)
This program subconsciously directs your steps. An element of discretion is also added so you won't fall for the next person that makes a pass at you, since the program will have the effect of drawing several prospects into your sphere. This isn't the stuff one night stands are made of, but a serious enhancer for someone looking for a long term relationship with someone they share a lot in common with. www.focusyourmindonhappiness.com/
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Stripper Seduction!
Are exotic dancers hard to get?
I used to think that dancers were the hardest type of girls to get. I mean, when you meet them, you are in THEIR territory where they are the stars of the show. What could be more difficult than that?
Then, almost by accident, I fell into a job working in a club - and my eyes were opened. I went from knowing nothing to being able to have the dancers buy me drinks, go home with me, and more.
Now, for the first time, I've decided to share everything I learned with you.
Don't wait - go here now: www.stripperseduction.com/
The benefits of dating a stripper
Body: For those of you that haven't had the good fortune to date an exotic dancer yet, let me tell you - it ROCKS.
Like most of you, a few short years ago I had no idea what it was like. But once you get a taste, you won't want to date 'regular' women nearly as much.
Like more than one girl at a time? Like wild, unplanned or.gi.es? THESE are the type of things that can happen when you plug yourself into the 'stripper lifestyle'.
In my new ebook, 'Stripper Seduction', you'll learn:
# A word-for-word script that convinces any dancer you're talking to that not only are you the stripper boyfriend type, but that you've dated top-level dancers in the past
# The attitudes most prevalent amongst dancers, and how to calibrate your attitude to make it seem like you're her 'dream man'
# The best times to pick up the girls - go at the wrong time and you have no chance
# The most common problems the girls face - learn these and you'll to come off like a psychic and amaze them
# Find the 'after-hours' hangout of the dancers so you can meet them for the first time OUTSIDE of the club - a simple but effective tactic that makes it impossible for them to view you as a customer since you didn't even meet them in the club!
Learn all this and more right here: www.stripperseduction.com/
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Brian has a network of sites at bogdock.com/ and in there he has launched a dating site, www.fullcontactdating.com/
which he generously has included a page for Cliff's List at: www.fullcontactdating.com/index.php/cliffs-list/
which you should visit! As a reward for visiting Brian's site, you can get a F R E E copy of his new e-book which can be downloaded from:
www.fullcontactdating.com/index.php/btp/
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Dear fellow PUAs,
Probably you've heard that this year's EuroSummit will be held in London. After last year's awesome success in Vienna, we decided to take it to the next level. In London, the nerve centre of Europe, we are getting ready to rock the world.
If have some PU experience and ready to travel, come join us, and take part in our celebration of the fairer sex. During these 3 days and 3 nights of sarging, you can meet some of the best PUAs and most beautiful girls in Europe, and you can also hold your speech if you'd like to.
Please write us that you'd like to join us in London provided all the people come you'd want to see.
It's a survey until we finish the site. You by NO MEANS will have an obligation to us, nor will your name be displayed on the EuroSummit site.
For advanced PUAs:
Please also tell us if you'd like to hold a speech, and of which topic. We'll schedule it then, but the final schedule will depend on the other speakers, too.
And after you send a pre-application, we'll send you the list of people who already signed up.
Please send your email to redpriest_hu@yahoo.com, with the subject "Euro Summit"
Thank you,
RedPriest
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Derek Vitalio:
Seduction Science Live In-Field Workshops!
The fact is, only by MODELING the very best can you achieve the very best. In a Seduction Science workshop, you'll meet and train with master coach McMaax who will take you to unique hot spots all over a particular city for meeting the most attractive, beautiful women. Your coach will demonstrate their skills and explain, teach, and show you how to interact with women at a club and on the street.
With a coach, you'll find an immediate shift in your skills and understanding with women as you see what it takes demoed live and right in front of you. And there's no reason to take the long and hard path or reinvent the wheel. After making hundreds of approaches, we've learned what works and what doesn't. We'll show you exactly how it's done and save you months, if not years of time.
You'll never have to go back to feeling lonely or lost and live passionately once again. Reserve your place as soon as possible (placing is limited!) so that you're guaranteed a spot.
For more information on the full workshop schedule visit: www.seductionscience.com/
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Ross Jeffries Speed Seduction:
Attention Men: Are You Ready To Discover The Absolute Best System For Getting You ANY Kind Of Women You Want, Just The Way You Want Them, Anytime, Anywhere, No Matter Your Age, Your Finances Or What You Look Like? Click Here For Your FREE Report! speedseduction.biz/
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Major Mark (www.trucor.com):
Send mail to Cassi@trucor.com with questions or comments about his seminars.
Call to register: 419 882-8543 or go to www.trucor.com
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Double Your Dating!
You can order all your DYD products and register for seminars through this link: doubleyourdating.com/
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MASTERING THE VIBE:
In social skills, as with any other realm of personal growth, having good role models helps tremendously. The first major breakthrough I made in getting better at talking to people was when a guy named Terrence took me out a few times. I can’t overstate how significant it was to all of a sudden have a model I could work to emulate.
I still learn and improve by being around guys with great energy. For example, my style of interaction has calmed down slightly by spending time with Sebastian, whose presence is soooo calm and warm. Its fun to listen to and hear different guys with different styles, and continually evolve your vibe and see what works for you.
Sebastian and Christian have teamed up to create a free email course called the Vibe Mastery Series, where they discuss things such as the focus, the walk and the conversational flow of a guy with a great vibe and energy.
And more importantly, they’ve created the Master the Vibe Audio Series, a monthly CD series that features live interactions between top PUAs and the women they meet. Constant exposure to success breeds success, and they are offering men guidance where they are most capable of providing it: on their vibe, energy and interaction skills.
Men will hear the lines, they’ll understand and pick up the positive energy and vibe, and then get detailed explanation of the theory behind everything they’re hearing. This is exactly what Christian wanted when he was getting better, and its already helping the hundreds of men who pre-ordered it and are enjoying it right now. Check it out at www.masterthevibe.com.
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Spirit (Founder of The National Player's Lair):
Attract and Seduce Women by being 'who you are' and join The National Player's Lair for FREE! The lair is now OPEN to anyone interested in getting beautiful women to your front doorstep in an instant! Act soon because we WILL be closing our open invitation very soon and only allowing a select few to join with us! Look forward to meeting you! groups.yahoo.com/group/theplayerslair/
Spiritual Seduction Forums - Get your dream girl now. Awaken your inner seductive powers here.
www.spiritual-seduction.com/phpBB2/index.php?c=1
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Threesomes! The Secrets To Making Your Fantasy A Reality
A home study course by David Shade www.masterful-lover.com/ebook.html
If you are like most men, you have had a fantasy about a threesome with 2 hot bi-sexual women. Everything you could possibly need to know about how to have threesomes is in this special information packed course.
The FIRST And ONLY, step-by-step guide written for men, featuring Pickup Artists and couples who are actually having threesomes all the time.
I GUARANTEE you that you've NEVER been exposed to, or had real Threesomes explained to you in the way I've done it here in this course!
It doesn't matter if you are in a relationship currently or not, every situation is covered here...
- The 3 scenarios to make a threesome happen (pick the one that works BEST for you)
- How to have threesomes as part of a committed relationship (and have it bring you closer together)
- The real truth about women and bisexuality (This will SURPRISE you)
- Proven methods to deal with your woman if she is on the fence about having a threesome. (You will have her begging you to make it happen)
- 4 vital things you MUST know about bisexual women (if you want to be successful having threesomes)
- How you can tell if a women is bi-sexual or not. (It's not what you think)
- The single biggest obstacle most women have to doing a threesome with their man. (when you can deal with this, the rest is easy)
- The foolproof way to bring up the subject of threesomes when you
have been with a woman for a long time. (This one is so powerful I almost didn't release it)
- The one thing you can say that shows a bisexual woman you are NOT like all the other guys (Do this and they might even fall in LOVE with you)
- Also, actual field reports of David & his girlfriend picking up bisexual women
- And much, much more...
The bottom line is that by learning how to have threesomes... YOU can live life fully and enjoy being a sensual person through expression of healthy sexuality in a mutually beneficial way.
Free samples of the course video online, check it out at www.masterful-lover.com/ebook.html
The classic 'David Shade Manual' goes online
You've done all the hard work, found the HB, attracted her, managed to get her back to your place, now you need to skills in the bedroom if you want to keep the attraction going. Being able to give her the sexual experience of her life is the final tool in the seducer's toolkit, so make sure you make the most of this opportunity. David Shade, as you are no doubt aware, is well known in the seduction community as the master of bedmanship skills.
His masterpiece the 'David Shade Masterful Lover Manual' is now available for the first time online at www.masterful-lover.com/ebook.html. Highly recommended, it is possibly the only book on the subject you will ever need. Compulsory reading.
www.masterful-lover.com/ebook.html "The Seduction End-Game"
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Payton Kane's Seduce and Conquer (www.seduceandconquer.com/) CD disks present Payton's unique, dynamic style of meeting and seducing women. His methods are very natural and are the epitome of the original advice you get - tease and take away, play hard to get, etc. Definitely worth checking out, but not for everyone.
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Allow me to Re-Introduce Myself......
It looks like the buzz has begun. People are starting to ask questions.
Check this post I found on fast seduction:
On 6/23/06 1:05:00 AM, T wrote:
>I've been getting some e-mails
>by will from DYD. I was
>wondering if anyone knows his
>style of game or if anyone has
>had coaching from him.
To clarify, I think you mean Will H. from the many DYD programs, though he doesn't actually work for DYD.
Anyway, having met and hung out with Will many times in person, he is one of the coolest, most laid back and funny people I have ever met.
He is also one of the top guys for approaching that I have ever seen. I have only seen him get a bad reaction once, and he was going for that on purpose so that he could turn it around later (which he did and number closed the girl).
He came to Boston last summer for an event called the 'Supermodel Tour' and between him and me, we number closed all the finalists, even though there was competition there from New England Patriot football players :-)
Formhandle and I also hung out with him in Montreal, and to this day keep recalling some of the cool approaches he did on the street there.
I don't know if he is still doing private bootcamps, but a friend of ours here in Boston took one, and met a girl during the bootcamp that he is still dating now almost a year later, so the results there speak for themselves.
Other major strengths he has is club game (setting up the club, etc.), managing multiple women (he probably has at least 10 going himself at any one time) and critiquing your overall style and wardrobe. TokyoPUA
Thanks TokyoPUA.
It's nice to hear guys saying such positive things aboutyou and the work you do.
(My clients love me even more. :)
Between 'Managing' my VERY active social life, and trying to put some stuff together for you, I have to tell you I'm SLAMMED.
(I might have to 'cut loose' some of my ladies)
Seriously, I barely have enough time to watch TV anymore. Not that I'm complaining because It's really cool to get emails from my subscribers.
(this is ALL new to me)
I've been getting a LOT of emails from guys interested in learning more, thing is, I don't have anything to sell you!
However, If enough of you are interested, then I'd consider doing a group phone coaching thing, or even a BOOTCAMP.
If you missed the other email with the download link to the Mp3 file of my interview, you can get the recording here. no strings attached:
www.youaresoinmyway.com/will_interview.html
Dave M. gave me a heavy arm twisting and made me spill the beans about some of my newest dating tricks and tips.
(The tip about the TEXT message is a Will Daddy CLASSIC!)
NOTE: I may be taking the call down shortly because I'm a bit nervous about guys knowing these dating tips and secrets - so this is not a made-up scarcity motivator) :)
Good stuff, no charge. Here it is:
www.youaresoinmyway.com/will_interview.html
Now go meet some women!
Will
P.S. I'll be taking this one down in a day or so. It's best to go ahead and watch it now.
P.P.S. GOT DATING QUESTIONS?
I've got answers. Send em' to me at: will@youaresoinmyway.com
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NEW PRODUCTS FROM DAVE RIKER
Have you ever wished that Speed Seduction® was taught in a more structured way, piece by piece, subject by subject, in a way that allows you to really understand it, really KNOW it and really USE and APPLY it even better than before?
If so, check out www.daveriker.com/ssmanual/
Riker's Seduction Log - Live Seminar
If you always wanted to hear more field reports, with full details, and even some recordings, then this seminar is for you. Dave Riker (Ross's co-trainer for those of you who don't know him) spends about 3 hours each evening going through his personal Logs and notes and provides full reports on Sarges, many from start to close (finish). And that's a full "close" by the way, not just an email address or phone number! The seminar is held in conjunction with Ross Jeffries Speed Seduction Seminars. Ross's seminar is during the day (and Riker presents at that too) and then Riker does his seminar in the evening. And even if you do not attend Ross's seminar you can still attend Riker's. For full details see the web page at: http://www.daveriker.com/logseminar/track/cl.htm (Inactive Site)
Be sure to check out his "Reviews" page on his site. Many guys that have been in the game for a while, and attended a LOT of seminars, were just blown away by Riker's Log seminar.
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Introducing 1 on 1 Badboy workshops:
Badboy is a Croatian PUA from Zagreb who has spent almost 4 years in the game. He is also a respected poster in Mystery's lounge.
To see some of his stuff, search for posts by "croBadboy" on mASF or read one of the recent issues of Cliff's list.
Workshops are 1 on 1 for 3 days.
Each day consists of a 4-hour seminar and 5 hours of active in-field work. Each night you will make 20-30 approaches with your teacher to get field experience. 1 on 1 training makes it possible to answer any questions you might have and cover the most important aspects of the game in detail. Teachings are tailored to your level in the game.
The basic structure of the workshop is:
Day 1:
Social intelligence/emotional intelligence
How to dress, peacocking vs. dressing style
Alpha-male body language secrets
Attitude (inner-game) and getting a good seductive voice
Difference between emotional and party type girls
Social dynamics in clubs (2sets/3sets/lone wolves), know your city
Openers (sets with males vs. only-girl sets)
Day 2:
Difference between PUing alone and with a wing
Different tools for getting attraction
Power of contrast (bad boy & nice guy in one)
Stealing their frames
Passing sh*t tests
Push-pull
Isolation tactics(2steps)
Day 3:
AMOG tactics (the AMOG handshake, group set AMOG destroyers)
Boyfriend destroyers
Passing LMR
Secrets of good s*ex
How to manage a good relationship
More body language secrets
How to turn Coffee dates into f*ck-fest in just 1 hour
How to turn a 0$ date into a time she will never forget
Difference between PUing in different places (small towns, big cities, colleges and the difference between certain clubs and the girls who go there)
Badboy says he can write a pages of what he does with guys because it's not just PU. He opens their EYES to LIFE, to understand how to live successfully.
For more info, and where you can book your workshop, see Badboy's new website: www.badboylifestyle.com/
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Recently I received an email from Tony, the author of the Layguide:
Dear LayGuide reader,
Ever since I put LayGuide online in 1999, I have never e-mailed a single LayGuide member about anything. I have now decided to write you my first e-mail, since I think the information I am about to give you is important enough.
A while back I was asked to contribute my best tips to an upcoming book which would feature the best dating advice by experts from around the world. It was devised as a sort of competition between the top players to see, who can dish out the best techniques and strategies. The book is now ready and is called "Instant Attraction" - but instead of telling you that this compilation is the "holey-moley end-all best thing since sliced bread", I am now going to give you my step-by-step BRUTALLY HONEST review of the whole package, the authors it features and what I think of the advice they give.
So here goes.
The package itself is huge, it consists of a 430+ page main ebook plus bonus books and audio programs. You can download it all here: www.instantattractionprogram.com/
It certainly took me a while to read and listen through it all. I'll start with the main 430+ page ebook and will tackle the authors one by one in the order in which they are presented in the book.
1. Rion Williams - good general theory, though I would have preferred a bit more practical advice to go with his theories.
2. Marius Panzarella - good advice.
3. Matt Carbone - excellent advice! Good enjoyable writing plus his advice is right on the money. One of the highlights of the package!
4. Mark Geiger - absolutely horrible advice. His suggestions read like a checklist of things to be avoided. At times it felt like the whole thing was written by a woman since only women have been known to give comparably bad dating advice to men (I don't mean to be rude to all the female dating experts out there but unfortunately that has been my experience). Most of the suggestions can be labeled either as "how to be a wussy boyfriend" or "how to be a good husband", however neither have little to do with meeting and attracting women, which should be the focus of this book.
5. Giuseppe Notte - good theory and practical tips. Maybe a bit too many tips on what NOT to do, which is somewhat out of place in a setting where the author has been asked to provide only his very best tips, but solid advice nevertheless.
6. Tony Clink - Well that's me. I participated by contributing 28 of my best tips, most of which are NOT included in LayGuide and which I wrote specifically for this package. I personally think they rock. I hope you like them as well and will find them useful:)
7. Will Hicks - superb advice, he really knows his stuff. Highly recommended, another highlight of the program!
8. Mark J Ryan - good advice, lots of example stories.
9. Elena Petrova - She gives advice on how to date Eastern European and Russian women. At first I was taken aback, since I've never really been comfortable with the idea of dating someone from overseas (I do not believe in long distance relationships), especially from an economically less developed country. Then again, I do live in one of those Eastern European countries myself and date Eastern European women exclusively, so I tried to keep on open mind to see what this author had to say about the issue. To my surprise her advice is very sound and true. If you consider dating Eastern European women a possibility, I would highly recommend the advice. And even if you're not interested in dating women from abroad, there is still a lot of good general theory explaining the dating game in here.
10. Cucan Pemo - starts out with a lot of confusing New Age stuff about Expanding Vortexes of Energy Exchange, Channeling Cosmic Energies, Communicating with the Universe etc. Not my cup of tea really. If it works for some, great. But unless you are a New Age buff, you will find this a frustrating read. Compounding the problem is the fact that the author is a woman and women are notoriously bad at giving dating advice to men. The advice she's giving improves a bit towards the end and she even presents some good general theories here and there, but overall it is a tiresome read.
11. Carlos Xuma (audio program) - At the very beginning he takes solid ideas but seems to present them in a somewhat twisted manner. Things improve though and the latter part of the audio program offers solid, strong and applicable tips. Overall the info is well worth the listen.
And here are the bonus books:
* Giuseppe Notte - good general tips, though some are recycled from the main book and others are actual lovemaking tips, which I think are usually the scope of other kinds of guides, but that's just my personal opinion:)
* Simon Heong - his two bonus books offer good basic info.
* John Alexander - very strong good psychological information. Also good practical tips. Highly recommended, one of the highlights!
* Martin Merrill - good info on humour and making women laugh. He mostly plugs his own book on the subject, but also gives some good tips.
(Also some additional bonus books have been added recently and althoug