Hehe, she locked me in with a prop
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EVENT ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Payton Kane:
Payton Kane Creates Playboy Mansion Type Parties!
Here is some fresh news, hot off the press. I just received an email from Payton with a big announcement:
"I got a mini mansion in the burbs - I call it the Seduce & Conquer Mansion! LOL. It’s 4200 Sq ft, 2 story, 3 floors with a massive swimming pool and waterfall. Now that’s not the big news… The big news is that I plan on throwing Playboy style parties at least once a month starting in July! I’m talking strippers, bartenders, waitresses, models and questionable babes from all over Toronto! LOL! And, I plan on turning it into one BIG seminar and party event. So it would be like a Playboy party, pick up training weekend where guys would come from all over (maximum of 20) They would get an in class seminar during the day, (in class meaning by the pool!) then a stripper or nightclub seminar Friday night followed by an in-class, how to work the party, seminar on Saturday and then the big party Saturday night! I hope to have at least 30 to 40 hot girls at the party so there would be at least one girl for every guy and 10 for you and me! LMAO. And, it would be Playboy Style with stripper poles outside, girls jumping in the pool, getting naked, the works! AND the best part is I would only charge a very reasonable amount for the entire weekend! … Brilliant baby!
I think I will be the first and only coach to throw Playboy Style Parties, focusing on teaching guys how to approach women, and how to talk to women in order to pick up and score. It would be a tremendous learning experience and a hell of a lot of fun in the process. I think it’s a genius idea! And will allow us to play, enjoy and learn all at once. As you know I have always said that seduction and pick up training should be the most fun a person could have. I think this will be a huge hit even bigger than my Cancun and Dominican Seminars because its cheap and doesn’t take up much time. After all its only for a weekend."
For details on this party, which will be held this coming July 4 weekend, go to: www.seduceandconquer.com/guys/cliff1.html
Steve P:
Check out www.schoolofstevep.com/ to learn about Steve's new seminar that will be held in Germany July 25-26-27.
Grant Adams:
David Deida LIVE.
You've read his books, The Way of The Superior Man and Intimate Communion. You've heard David D, Grant Adams, AMP, Lance and every teacher seriously interested in deeply-rooted masculine core strength recommend his work. He blew away the Toronto Lair and came away praising the PUA
community for being SERIOUS about genuine change, whereas, as he said, most other people just yammer about transformation but do nothing and keep failing. Now, David Deida is leading Weekend Intensives: 150 men and women together, face to face. Interactive, no b.s., balls-to-the-wall breakthrough workshops. These workshops WILL sell out, as they always do. To learn more and get on the priority list, go to www.deidaevents.com/
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Prince Charming:
LR: Facebook game/ Shit test princess
This chicka gave the most shit tests I have ever seen! After getting her number through standard Facebook game, I call her, and after I tell a story (which, granted, was a routine) she calls me on it, saying it didn't happen, and goes into a rant about how my life is a façade and I'm a fake. In standard shit test response, I agree and amplify.
[Really whiny tone]
Yeah I have no friends…no one likes me...I'm lost…like Pinocchio.
Will you be my Friiiieeeenndddd…
Will you be my Friiiieeeenndddd…
Will you be my Friiiieeeenndddd…pleeeeaaaaasse
Hahaha. [Dominant tone]
Continue conversation as normal.
After the call, we flirt over text for a week or two, and she's still shit testing hard each time.
Then on Wednesday morning she sends me a text:
I'm bored. Entertain me, you brilliant monkey.
An hour later I text back:
I'm free after 1pm. You?
I finish class at 12:30.
Meet me. (I give her the name of a local coffee shop.)
I arrive late, and call her when I'm right around the corner. I do my usual thing, telling her to run up and give me my morning hugs. I hang up right as I walk through the door. I look around. No cute girls are running up. No one is even looking up. I'm unreactive; I lean against the wall and call her again. I see the phone ring of the chick that's sitting by the door. She ignored me lol. I yell at her to come over and give me a hug. She hesitates. I command. She comes. I grab her and make sure to sit down at the opposite end of the coffee shop (to get her into my frame and start getting compliance from her. Sitting down where she was sitting would have been weak.)
She is not investing in the conversation and not making eye contact. So I get up and change seats again. I tell her to come. She doesn't. So I get up and firmly but gently grab her arm and pull her to the other table.
She asks if I always stare at people like this. I was giving her fucking solid eye contact non-stop, while she was looking away most of the time. I say "Yes!" [unreactive]
We talk for about 20 minutes, much longer than usual before the bounce because I felt she was not invested enough to go for the bounce. Throughout the convo I do subtle things to get compliance from her and get kino. I call her on the shit tests. I explain to her what a shit test is, and how chicks do it to test guys if they are congruent. She denies. I ask her if she intimidates a lot of guys (lol I bet she does…hot girl with massive bitch shield.)
At the grocery store, she refuses to carry my basket. I trick her into carrying it. Half way through shopping, she tries to trick me into taking it. I refuse, and she ends up putting the basket down in the middle of the aisle. I am unreactive, and continue walking around, leaving the basket sitting there. I just keep shopping, carrying some of the items by hand and giving some to her to carry. After 10 minutes of this, I sit down on my throne of beer and tell her we can leave as soon as she gets my basket. A game of power and wits and spankings ensues for the next 10 minutes as neither side gives in. Then I feel the energy change. I say let's go, and we grab the basket together. The point has been made, and it's no longer relevant who carries it.
Sitting with her on my bed now, I start with, "I'm not boyfriend material."
She has a quick adverse reaction and says, "Never say that to a girl."
I ignore it and remain unreactive. I go on with my whole relationship talk.
30 seconds in, she absolutely lights up and starts glowing. She has never had a guy be so open and honest with her. We start foreplay, and I take her top off. I take off my hat, which I was wearing the whole time. She freaks out at my shaved head. She says that hair is the only thing she cares about, and that she can't do this now. I remain unreactive and tell her,
"If these kinds of superficialities are important to you, then this isn't gonna work out."(Credit: George on Seinfeld, lol.)
I continue and we're cool. She tells me she likes it when a guy is really rough and almost rapes her, then right after, says no when I try to take her pants off. This was a real NO, I could hear it in her voice. (lol WTF!!!) This was some really shitty timing for telling me her rape fantasy. If I wasn't well-calibrated to real and fake resistance, this could have gotten stupid.
We spend 2 hours in bed together dry humping and shit. We have amazing sexual chemistry. She keeps the pants on because she is on her period and has strong beliefs about no sex on the first date. She really wants to fuck though.
She leaves, and ends up convincing me to walk her half way to the metro because it was on my way. We exchange some dirty texts throughout the week
Sending her some funny text…
Don't you ever say normal, boring stuff?
I'm a lawyer with a big dick. Tell all your friends!
Yeah I know that, and I'm dying to try it! You won't believe how many times I pictured you behind, me pulling my.hair and fucking my pussy…
You know, if I had you right now I would pin you up against this wall so fast you wouldn't know what hit you. Then…
What would you do to me next? Tear off all my clothes and push me onto your bed? Or fuck me right on that wall…(I leave her hanging here)
We talk briefly on the phone Tuesday night, and PZN-player talks to her, too, pretending to be me. Afterward, she texts me:
I can't stop touching myself. Do something!
Tame the CUNT!
Tomorrow @1 I'll make you respect the COCK!
I hope! You better fuck me like theres no tomorrow…
Then she calls me 30 minutes before she is supposed to meet me the next day and I don't believe this…
Hey, what are you doing right now?
Looking at my foot.
Well you should put on your socks and come pick me up at the metro. [bitchy tone]
You fail to realize how incredibly lazy I am [unreactive disinterested tone]
Well I'm not coming if you're not gonna pick me up.
You know, I would love to see you and rock your world, but if you're gonna play these silly power games, that's not gonna happen.
Uhhh….
Listen, if you don't have anything more interesting to say right now, I have to get back to my foot. It's fascinating!
Uhh fine, I'm coming.
She gets here, and I decide to put an end to this shit.
As soon as I see her, I tell her we need to talk and I sit her down on the couch.
I want to talk about my feelings. I have a headache…we're not gonna have sex… [playful tone…Haha give that bitch some of her own shit Razz]
These shit tests have to stop.
What?!?
I grab her and get up. I start poking and jabbing her in the ribs…
It's like this *poke* ARE YOU A MAN?! OR ARE YOU A LIL WUSSY BOY?!
*JAB jab* ARE YOU A MAN OR ARE YOU MY LIL BITCH BOY?! *POKE poke*
[This was said in a really cocky, playful but dominant tone to show how annoying it is.]
I have seen it before. Some girls are addicted to giving shit test because they get some kind of emotional high to see their man be unreactive to them. But you know it breaks the vibe we have, and it brings out the asshole side of my personality, and that's not a part of me I really want to nurture and feed…
Ok, I'll stop. [submissive tone]
I grab her and we make out, then I lead her upstairs and fuck the shit out of her.
FEEDBACK:
When did you know we were gonna have sex? When you said you weren't boyfriend material.
What did you think of my game? You're unpredictable.
Learning points:
- All shit tests can be passed by ignoring them, or agreeing and amplifying.
- The girl's response to me is irrelevant. I just keep going and I will close!
- Be 100% unreactive.
-Address shit tests directly.
Time to sex: 2 hours to foreplay on day 2. 20 minutes to sex on day 3.
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AFC Adam (adamlyons.co.uk):
Before reading this, please bear in mind that you are incredibly unlikely to find yourself in this situation. Also, I wouldn't recommend trying to get yourself into it. As much fun as it was, I did have a good alibi should anything have gone completely wrong. A random dude copying this could end up in a lot of trouble. You have been warned!
It all started with a call from Maxim magazine.
Maxim dude: Hi, is this Adam Lyons?
AFC Adam: Yeah it is.
Maxim dude: We've heard that you've been voted one of the top 3 pick-up artists in the world, and that you currently live in the UK.
AFC Adam: Erm, yeah, I suppose I kinda have, though I plan on leaving the UK within the next few weeks.
Maxim dude: Ok, well we'd love to interview you for Maxim and put your skills to the test. We'd like to prove that the UK has one of the best seducers in the world.
AFC Adam: Well how can I say no?
Maxim dude: We'd like to see you in our office to complete a set of tasks and show us what you're made of.
AFC Adam: I'm there!
Now a wise man may have asked what the tasks would involve. I've never been a wise man. Being the little media whore that I am, and always willing to show that I can actually do the things I teach, off I set with a spring in my step.
I arrived at the office pretty much ready for anything: model parties, nightclubs, street approaches, Alpha male blowouts. Seriously, what could they give me I hadn't done a hundred times before?
Maxim dude: Hi there! Nice to meet you. Ok, we have 3 simple tasks for you.
AFC Adam: Done!
Maxim dude: That's what we love to hear! First, we'd like you to pull a chick in a bar.
AFC Adam: Hahaha easy.
Maxim dude: Then we'd like you to pull a chick off the street.
AFC Adam: One of my specialties. No problem.
Maxim dude: Then we'd like you to go to an office you've never been to before, blag your way into the office, walk up to the hottest girl in the room in front of all of her co-workers, and pull her while she's working at her desk.
AFC Adam: ...ahem...I'm sorry, what?
Maxim dude: We know it's a little too much to ask. If you can't do it, we understand.
AFC Adam: Dude, too much to ask? Are you kidding me? No one has ever done anything like this as far as I'm aware. This is almost impossible. I mean, do I even have a reason to be there?
Maxim dude: No.
AFC Adam: Can you at least get me access, just to chill in the room for a few minutes first?
Maxim dude: No.
AFC Adam: Mate, you're aware of just how impossible this is, right?
Maxim dude: Look if you can't do it, we can just find another...
AFC Adam: Mr., you really don't know who you're talking to. There is NO WAY I'm not going to do this, it's an amazing challenge. I just want you to realise how bloody impossible it is before I go in there and make it happen.
Maxim dude: So you'll do it?
AFC Adam: Watch me.
And with that, I headed off to the sales floor of their office. Now, I want you guys to realise that the bravado I just showed the guy was actually just me building my state and confidence. I needed a complete surge of super confidence as this would be a one-shot challenge. No warm-ups. No trial run. Do it or fail. So I built myself up with a stupid amount of self worth and ego to make sure all the doubt was gone from my mind. Not necessarily the best state to game in, but definitely the one I needed to make one foot go in front of the other down those stairs towards the sales floor.
We stood outside the sales floor looking into the room. Around 50 people sitting at open desks, all of them falling into one of two types: hot babes using their looks to make sales, and Alpha males chilling out, talking loudly into their phones to push sales. Fabbbuuulous.
What I needed was a way in. Just then, God decided to give me a hand.
The door opened and out walked HB Kiara (not as hot as the others, so some of the girls obviously slipped through the beauty net and must rely on skill, too.) I smile, I ask her if this is the sales floor, I ask her name, I shake her hand, I tell her goodbye, I open the door to the office, and I enter...allowing it to swing shut behind me.
The game is on.
I move up to the first desk.
AFC Adam: I'm so sorry to bother you, is Kiara here?
Random dude: I'm sorry, you just missed her.
AFC Adam: Oh, man. Typical. She probably went down to meet me. Mind if I wait at her desk?
Random dude: No problem.
Game 1
Maxim office 0
I sit at the desk and open a random hot babe next to me.
AFC Adam: Hi there. Are you one of those girls completely into her work, or are you someone who would love an excuse to not do something for a while?
HB: Hahaha. Yeah, I'm waiting 'til the end of the day, and staring at the internet 'til then
AFC Adam: Awesome. I'm waiting for Kiara, and she's taking forever.
We talk about life, about coffee shops, about other random stuff. I won't bore you with the details as this is all basic game you can read anywhere. Cut a long story short, after 5 minutes I have her number and a potential date at a coffee shop.
Game 2
Maxim office 0
However, this was NOT the challenge. The challenge was to get the HOTTEST girl in the room. I could see her from where I sat. A very stunning brunette, Los Angeles makeup, busy at her desk trying to prove to the world she is more than just a pretty face. I'm sure she is, too.
So I ask the girl I'm talking to what all the other desks do?
I find out that Super Hot Chick is working on the desk that supplies sales for an international magazine. So I ask...
AFC Adam: So if I had a friend that wanted to advertise in an international magazine I would need to talk to...?
HB: Paula, just over there.
AFC Adam: Any chance of a DHV introduction so I can use you for pre-selection and make the set a lot easier? (Ok, I didn't add the game jargon in the actual set...but still, you get the idea.)
HB: No probs. Hi Paula, this is Adam.
From this point on we have a quick chat, but I'm aware time is of the essence so I go for broke.
AFC Adam: Heya chick, I have to make a move soon, but I'd really like to talk further about this and life and whatever, how about you and me do a work lunch, we get your office to pay for it, and we see what we can come up with together?
HB Paula: Sure thing. Next Wednesday 1pm any good for you?
AFC Adam: Done.
At that moment, Kiara walks in. I stand up and leave the office with the biggest grin on my face, not before looking to Kiara and saying:
"Thank you so very much for absolutely everything, I wish you well, chicka"
Anyway, the entire article will be posted up in the UK Maxim within the next 2-3 months. But you know they will completely omit the finer points of how to pull it off.
In summary:
Find a good reason to be wherever you are
Social Proof works EVERYWHERE
Get the day 2 under whatever means you have to, then run game in a more comfortable environment.
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Zardoz:
FR: Karma
I hate taking shits at the bar; the toilets are usually filthy. But then I discover a fat wallet sitting on the dispenser. There's $80 inside! I pull out the ID, and hunt down the owner.
"Dude, are you Simon?"
"Yes."
"Here's your wallet."
Hey looks blankly, then mumbles, "…Oh." He takes it, and slumps back apathetically over his drink.
What the hell? No thanks? The guy had the intelligent air of someone who had just been fed a fistful of rufies and kicked in the head.
"Holy shit!" his buddy pipes up. "You gave back his wallet? You rule! Hey, buy this guy a drink! Hey everyone, this guy gave back his wallet!"
A round of applause ensues. The moron just stares at his drink. I make him buy me a Corona, and depart a little dissatisfied with the result of my generosity.
Then my Karma.
HbRocker
I spot a pack of happy girls. The cute one looks like a rocker, she has a nice camera.
"That's a nice camera, are you a photographer?"
"No, I'm in visual arts."
"Oh, right on, I'm a journalist, so I always ask people with cameras if they are pros, in case I need one for work."
She's into me. It's on.
"Introduce me to your friends."
She's rubbing her boobs on me as she introduces her friends.
"I like your shirt," I say, "You seem cool, but you rocker types are trouble."
"Trouble? Whyee?"
(All girls are trouble.)
"You're all nuts. One day, I'll tell you about why you're trouble. When we're best friends."
I do a round of high fives. High fives are my best friend. They're celebrating a 19 year old's birthday. "Happy birthday! What's it feel like to finally be 15?"
I ask her to come meet my friends but they're going to another club.
"You're cute, let's exchange numbers and we'll hang out…but no kissing, ok? I'm celibate."
I've been saying stuff like this a lot. I like to tell the girls I find them attractive, and then take away. It's not always necessary. Nothing is necessary, but that usually makes them laugh and takes some pressure off. It also says I want to be more than just friends.
Number close.
"Are you going to answer the phone when I call you?" She agrees. I get too many flakes, and I'm trying this phrase out.
I text her right away. This is what I text:
"Zardoz."
She texts back, "HbRocker."
Called her the next day and we talked, went well. Gonna nail her.
Skater.
"Hey! What's up?" (High five) "Are you a real blonde?"
"No, I dye it."
"You pretend to be nuts? You really are nuts. Hey, those are nice nails, are they real?" (They aren't)
"No, they're not."
"Good for scratching though."
She's a skateboarder. I make her introduce me to her friends, as always, before moving her to the dance floor to exchange dance moves, which she isn't really down with. Many girls aren't dancers! It goes well until I get her number and say, "Are you gonna answer when I call?" She looks dismayed.
I keep joking about not really being a "bar guy," but find it isn't congruent, because I am a bar guy (it happens.)
I call her the next day…wrong number. On reflection, I was play flirting with one of her friends who was competing for my attention. I should have talked to that one more. I'm always hesitant to let go of my current prospects, because they tend to wander off like lost kids as soon as you let them go. Oh well.
***Update*** 2 days later she texts me. Don't delete those numbers.
Receptive girl
I see a girl sitting by herself. I look at her, she looks at me, so I walk over slowly, lean up on the wall and say "Hi. How's it goin'?"
"Good. Do you want to sit with me?"
It's on.
It's funny, because at this point, I was so laid back and in state, that everything I said or did was gold. Even when I fucked up, it was gold. She wasn't the hottest girl, but cute and sexable for sure.
I use a lot of touching. I touch her legs, I hold her hands. It's totally normal and not creepy at all. Why would it be? Practice this: as soon as you meet a girl, hold out both of your hands at waist level, and she will put her hands in yours. Then, hold them, look at her rings, and don't let go.
For some reason I ask her to call her Grandpa—her Grandpa is dead. Oops! I give her a hug. Then I turn it into a joke, and all night, every time she mentions her Grandpa, like a Pavlovian dog I give her a hug. Chicks got game.
Things are going well so I decide to try some Mehow stuff out. I tell her I'm a writer and then start drawing pictures on her arm, explaining how when I was a kid, I would write these stories.
"You're making this up for an excuse to touch me," she quips.
Hehe. Smart girl. I laugh it off. I laugh everything off.
It's funny how girls will correct you on your game. It happens to me all the time. Sometimes I will see a guy hitting on a girl and just go up and say, "So, does this guy have any game?" Usually they'll give a straight answer. Usually they'll ignore him and start talking to me instead.
I ask her to bounce for pizza, but she's full. Soup? She's full. Tea? "I know a great tea place up the street!" she pips. Bam. Most girls don't want to eat pizza at 3 am. Go for something light.
There's this body builder guy, red faced and totally drunk, he keeps approaching and trying to game her. We completely ignore him. He leaves, comes back a few minutes later and tries again. Fails miserably. I eventually acknowledge his existence, shake his hand, and then we continue to ignore him. Conan takes the hint and leaves to push the wheel of pain for a few more years.
She has to go to the bathroom and asks me to wait. "I'm easily distracted," I say.
"Watch my sweater!" She skips off. Hehe, she locked me in with a prop. I don't sit there; I take her sweater to the bar for water, making eye contact with everybody in the vicinity, guys and girls.
Eventually, we reunite and bounce, but she lives with her mom, it's 4 am, and I'm bagged, so I let her go. Whatever. She's gonna answer when I call.
What I did/learned.
-Get in a talkative mood early. As soon as I walk into the bar I start making small talk. I usually start outside, talking on the street. What do you talk about? Whatever—nice weather? Hey, did you fart? It doesn't matter, just talk.
-Clear your mind. When I approach I don't have any intent. I don't feel anxiety because my head is empty. It's a state of being that is achieved through repetition and practice. I meditate a lot. If you want to know how, use Google. I learned from Steve P and AtoZ.
-Wear a smile. You are out to have fun. You must smile! Smiling sends endorphins to your brain. Even if you are in a bad mood, just smile. Feel good and think about your body and what it means to be alive, surrounded by crazy humans. It's awesome.
-I use a lot of kino. I'm touchy-feely, in a fun way. I always have been, even before game. Do not be afraid to touch; eventually, it will come naturally. It also gets girls sexually excited from the start.
-Own the room. When I enter the bar, I put myself firmly in the center of the room, legs spread, huge smile, and slowly look around and absorb my surroundings. People notice you, and it makes you feel at home. This is your house!
-Talk loudly. Like a loud person.
-High fives are a PUA's best friend. Don't know what to say? High five! Say something wrong? High five! Hugs are better. High five-hug combo is great. Never be afraid of touching people, and they won't be afraid of you.
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Michael The Dating Wizard (www.thedatingwizard.com/):
THE TRUTH ABOUT TEASING A WOMAN
Maybe you've been around a bit. Maybe you've read the book The Game. Maybe you've subscribed to a bunch of newsletters on the topic of dating, seduction, pick-up, maybe even something on relationships.
One of the "big ideas" you may have heard about is the concept of teasing a woman to build attraction.
This is absolutely one of the most misunderstood ideas, for SURE. It's one of the most abused concepts. The idea is that you tease a girl and she feels attraction to you because it is supposed to build "sexual tension".
Well, the reality is that if a woman for one second thinks that you mean what you are saying, then what you are doing it absolutely WRONG.
Yet most guys interpret the idea of teasing a woman as somehow being the opposite of kissing up to her. And since in the past when they kissed up, it didn't work, they feel that they have finally uncovered the secret key to attraction.
Well, the TRUTH is that teasing a woman in a mean way is actually a BAD idea. I have always said that the rule is it has to be clear that you're not being serious.
So, if a woman is super beautiful and you tease her that she isn't lucky enough to go out with you, then it's actually YOU making fun of YOURSELF, not HER. There's nothing particularly "ALPHA" about that, is there? Yet, she may very well LAUGH, and she will interpret that you are actually a SECURE to make fun of yourself this way, and that you are fun, and that THEREFORE you are not putting SERIOUS PRESSURE on her to go out with you.
So, what is ACTUALLY working here is the PLAY, and the fact that you are not coming on so SERIOUSLY. In HER mind, this means that you probably won't want TOO MUCH COMMITMENT from her, which makes it EASIER for HER to go out with YOU.
Did you read that correctly? She DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TOO SERIOUS ABOUT YOU, therefore she doesn't MIND going out with you. It's not like she HAS to be so attracted, since the COST is very LOW.
Now, on the one hand, you could argue that this means you are not needy, and on the other, you could argue that it means you don't EXPECT much, which some might say is a sign of LOW self-esteem.
Something to THINK about.
This should give a guy an important clue: when a tease is done in a mean way, it does NOT work.
And here's ANOTHER massive point: if a guy is really good looking, he needs to be even MORE careful about teasing a woman, because SHE may feel insecure around him, and the teasing might make her feel that he is just toying with her, or that he really MEANS what he's saying.
Let me make it CLEAR:
Imagine that you were the PRESIDENT or PRIME MINISTER of your country. Would you feel the need to TEASE a woman you just met? Or would you somehow INSTINCTIVELY know that the right thing to do is to make that person feel more RELAXED in your presence?
You know this because you ALREADY have massive value, and this itself can make people feel insecure, so what you do is create RAPPORT.
This, of course, only happens when you KNOW you have massive value. But the thing is, because you KNOW it, even when you are making rapport, your voice carries confidence, charisma, and power, which is ATTRACTIVE. Even the WAY you make rapport is ACTUALLY CREATING ATTRACTION.
So you have to realize that it's not TEASING that attracts a woman, it's following things that are actually KEY:
One:
By being PLAYFUL, you are showing that you are not taking the whole thing too SERIOUSLY, which means to her that she won't feel PRESSURE to have to COMMIT so fast. Most guys behave in a SERIOUS way that implies she will have to COMMIT fast, which means shutting DOWN all the other guys she might want to see.
Two:
By not being so serious, and in a way making fun of YOURSELF (because when you tease a woman who is beautiful, she KNOWS that it's absurd and that therefore you are surely KIDDING, so this is actually FUNNY) you are showing that SHE DOES NOT HAVE TO GIVE YOU SO MUCH, since, after all, this is all "just playing," not some kind of serious relationship. So not only does she not have to commit to you, but in fact, on a serious emotional level, she doesn't have to give you ANYTHING.
The reality is that sex is a universal thing. It can be a distraction, it can be a fun thing to do with someone new for a novelty, it can be lots of things, but it does not have to be some kind of emotional commitment—which is fine, unless you ARE looking for something serious.
And THEN a lot of guys WONDER why the girl they met doesn't seem to work out long term, and why they keep on getting into this problem over and over again.
Three:
Playful teasing is also a universally understood form of sexual flirtation, so what you are saying effectively is that the potential for sex is ON, which is of course FAR more effective for getting to sex than acting like you are A NON-SEXUAL being. But this is supposed to be good natured, and has nothing to do with "slamming a woman's self-esteem" as is so often described by pick-up artists, etc. The only girls who need to have their self-esteem "slammed" are the kinds of girls who would never be good for a true long term relationship anyway.
Four:
Also, it's important to not be SUBMISSIVE, so the teasing can also be interpreted as a way of showing that you are playfully being "dominant"—even though the overly cocky tease often shows HER power, since there is no WAY on EARTH that a gorgeous woman would ever feel "sexually inferior" to a guy who would clearly sell his own mother to go out with her. So when a guy DOES make some cocky comment to her that she would be lucky to go out with him, it's FUNNY, and it's at HIS expense, not hers.
This may be funny, but it has nothing to do with dominance, or the woman feeling somehow beneath the guy.
Notice NONE of the factors above regarding teasing have ANYTHING to do with being the guy who is "calling the shots" for her, or with avoiding being "good" or "nice" to her.
I'm not saying that teasing a woman is BAD, I'm just saying that most guys get it totally WRONG, because they are emphasizing the WRONG part of the TEASE. They think it's coming from a position of CONTROL over her, when in reality, it's coming from a position of asking way LESS of her. It's LOWERING your expectations. It's making the whole interaction "low cost," and it's making things a JOKE.
That's why, if you happen to be a guy who looks like a model, then teasing should be even MORE playful and LESS arrogant, otherwise you will make her feel BAD. She might very WELL be the one who IS lucky to go out with such a guy, so it's not a joke at all to her if the guy says, "You'd be lucky to go out with me, make sure to put a paper bag over your head so no one knows I'm with you." Then she feels like crap, she does NOT feel that he is valuing HER, and thinks maybe he is just being a jerk.
This is why, by the way, women say they want a guy to be EXTRA NICE to them—they are talking about a guy who is ALREADY physically attractive to them. Otherwise, they want an average-looking guy they've just met to be VERY CONFIDENT, to be VERY COOL, to be FUN, etc., as THESE FACTORS make the guy JUST AS ATTRACTIVE as the one who looks like a model.
Even with a woman who is acting disrespectfully, the solution is not to "SLAM" her self-esteem. The solution is to be the coolest man you can be. If that's not enough, then I assure you that no amount of slamming her ego will make her appreciate you, or make her any more fun to be with. Slamming her ego will only make her feel like CRAP, and that means she is in no state to feel anything positive at all, including attraction.
Even if a guy is not a model, he CAN attract gorgeous women by having a SUPER ATTRACTIVE personality. But this SUPER CHARISMATIC, ATTRACTIVE PERSONALITY has nothing to do with TEASING a woman in a way that undermines her self-esteem, with being mean, or with showing her you're the boss.
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