Let's conquer this problem once and for all

[summary]Women want what they can't have, guys want what they can't talk to. Crossing the seduction brigde takes some getting used to.[/summary]

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EVENT ANNOUNCEMENTS:

Payton Kane:
Payton Kane Creates Playboy Mansion Type Parties!
Here is some fresh news, hot off the press. I just received an email from Payton with a big announcement:

"I got a mini mansion in the burbs - I call it the Seduce & Conquer Mansion! LOL. It’s 4200 Sq ft, 2 story, 3 floors with a massive swimming pool and waterfall. Now that’s not the big news… The big news is that I plan on throwing Playboy style parties at least once a month starting in July! I’m talking strippers, bartenders, waitresses, models and questionable babes from all over Toronto! LOL! And, I plan on turning it into one BIG seminar and party event. So it would be like a Playboy party, pick up training weekend where guys would come from all over (maximum of 20) They would get an in class seminar during the day, (in class meaning by the pool!) then a stripper or nightclub seminar Friday night followed by an in-class, how to work the party, seminar on Saturday and then the big party Saturday night! I hope to have at least 30 to 40 hot girls at the party so there would be at least one girl for every guy and 10 for you and me! LMAO. And, it would be Playboy Style with stripper poles outside, girls jumping in the pool, getting naked, the works! AND the best part is I would only charge a very reasonable amount for the entire weekend! … Brilliant baby!
I think I will be the first and only coach to throw Playboy Style Parties, focusing on teaching guys how to approach women, and how to talk to women in order to pick up and score. It would be a tremendous learning experience and a hell of a lot of fun in the process. I think it’s a genius idea! And will allow us to play, enjoy and learn all at once. As you know I have always said that seduction and pick up training should be the most fun a person could have. I think this will be a huge hit even bigger than my Cancun and Dominican Seminars because its cheap and doesn’t take up much time. After all its only for a weekend."
For details on this party, which will be held this coming July 4 weekend, go to: http://www.seduceandconquer.com/guys/cliff1.html

Steve P:

Check out http://www.schoolofstevep.com/ to learn about Steve's new seminar that will be held in Germany July 25-26-27. Guest speakers include Cameron Teone, Johnny Soporno and Zan.

DJ:
DJ: STORYTELLING: A community old-timer, you might know DJ from his days at Mystery Method, his current work at Stylelife, his special appearances at Cliff's List 2005 and 2006, and on Master the Vibe. DJ has decided to once again teach his Personal Storytelling Seminar, on June 28 & 29, in New York City. You will learn how to convey your identities and life experiences in a genuine, strong, and attractive way through storytelling in language that excites and captivates women. You will also learn how to let go of negative past experiences and fears which are holding you back so that you can allow your best self to shine brightly. This program is about how you tell your personal story. If you've been looking to take that next step and start truly connecting with women for who you are, you won't want to miss this. And there are some very special guest speakers planned. Learn more at: http://www.storytellingforguys.com

Grant Adams:
David Deida LIVE.
You've read his books, The Way of The Superior Man and Intimate Communion. You've heard David D, Grant Adams, AMP, Lance and every teacher seriously interested in deeply-rooted masculine core strength recommend his work. He blew away the Toronto Lair and came away praising the PUA community for being SERIOUS about genuine change, whereas, as he said, most other people just yammer about transformation but do nothing and keep failing. Now, David Deida is leading Weekend Intensives: 150 men and women together, face to face. Interactive, no b.s., balls-to-the-wall breakthrough workshops. These workshops WILL sell out, as they always do. To learn more and get on the priority list, go to http://www.deidaevents.com/

Real Social Dynamics:
RSD has two bootcamps planned for Montreal, as well as others across Canada. They are planning to be in Montreal on June 27-29 and on August 15-17. For more details, go to http://www.realsocialdynamics.com/

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Zardoz:
Opening Freestyle: The natural way

“Did you know the average male thinks about sex 137 times a day?”
“Who farted?”
“Bonjour.”
“Hi.”
“I’m a banana.”
“Hey, look at that!” (Point to a random spot on the wall.)
“Would you quit staring at me? I’m not going to make out with you.”
“I’m wearing tidy whities. What do you think of that?”
“Should a guy kiss a girl at the beginning or end of the first date?”
“This place is full of weirdos.” (Good for hipster clubs.)
“Are you in Metallica?”
“Heeyyy!!! Long time no see!” (They usually feel like morons for not remembering you. I use this a lot.)
“Hey. My friend and I were just discussing whether or not you two would be rude to me if I came over to say hello.” (They both smile. I pull back my jacket to reveal a bright yellow shirt that says “Talk nerdy to me.”)
“Remember that time!? That time!? That time XYZ?” (Replace XYZ with, “when we made out,” “in Vietnam,” “in the shit,” or anything that comes to mind.)

Some people say you should think before you open your mouth. For me, in pick up, this is a false statement. When I approach, I don’t think. I clear my mind, and just spit out whatever comes through the ether.

Once you’re excellent at opening, you’ll realize that unless you’re looking for a specific emotional reaction, what you say doesn’t matter. If you say, “Fuck you, you ugly fat bitch,” the reaction will likely be a large boyfriend kicking your rude little PUA ass. But if you say this with a huge smile to a girl with high self esteem, she might love you. You won’t know until you try. Amuse yourself. (BTW, I’ve never field tested that opener.)

Opening is probably the easiest part of the game. Many guys are so worried about approaching a group of strangers that they end up running circles in their minds and psyching themselves out. I don’t really feel approach anxiety anymore. To me, approaching a stranger at a party or a bar is the same as asking someone to pass the ketchup. What’s the result of asking someone to pass the ketchup? Either they do, or they don’t.

The fear that you feel, the uncertainty of introducing yourself, will evaporate. Here’s the one true solution for overcoming approach anxiety: repeated exposure.

Opening is my favorite part of the interaction. In the last two years, I’ve approached and opened hundreds, maybe a thousand sets. I’ve had every kind of reaction you can imagine, from instant attraction, to outright anger. Yes, while learning to calibrate, you will creep some people out. It’s because you’re thinking too much. Once you get opening down, the rest of the game becomes much easier.

Sometimes a bad reaction has nothing at all to do with you. Sometimes that person has their own issues they’re dealing with. The key is to look at every approach, good or bad, as a positive learning experience.

“But I just don’t know what to say!”

Everybody has their own game, their own creativity. If you need to use canned lines, so be it. You will develop your own over time. I prefer to function in the moment. For me, every opener is a test of that person’s personality. Are they going to be down for an interaction? Don’t look at it as, “What if I fail?” Reframe it to, “Are these people social?” I can usually tell within thirty seconds who’s down.

I like to say completely random stuff. Yes, sometimes women will think I’m weird and tell me so, but I don’t care. I used to get really wigged out after a bad interaction, but after 99 more approaches, not so much. It becomes a congruent part of your personality to talk to strangers.

When you approach a girl, or a group, don’t over think what to say, and don’t be outcome-dependent. Just say whatever the hell you feel like saying. If they freak out and turn their backs on you, deal with that in your own way. The trick to overcoming approach anxiety is to “open as many sets as possible, as often as possible.”

I rarely get sets that don’t stick. I would say, out of every ten interactions, nine go incredibly well. This is what allows me to stay calm, confident and focused. It took me two years to get there, but the fact that it’s possible to rewire your internal being to a desired outcome is a great thing.

Understand that the reason you can say anything to anyone at anytime is because people are not all the same. They all have unique life experiences, and what will elate and intrigue one person will anger and annoy another. The only rule is there are no rules.

Eventually, you’ll develop a sort of sixth sense for what to say and what not to say. Again, my best advice is say whatever you want, and if they aren’t down…to hell with them.

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IceDragon (http://www.alphainteractions.com):

We all know the basic theory: pre-selection is a powerful attraction switch. Mystery and Tyler Durden have reinforced this message over and over.

However, it’s time to take pre-selection to a new level.
When gaming a girl, either in-set or one-on-one, mention one of these two things: 1) You currently have girlfriend, or 2) You are currently seeing other girls, insinuating that if she is with you, she will not be exclusive (but, of course, if she proves herself in due course, she may become exclusive.)

Girls will be more eager to give you their numbers, and will actually push you for a day 2, creating less work for you. Why?

BECAUSE WOMEN WANT WHAT THEY CAN'T HAVE.

It's all very well to tell her you previously dated a hot stripper from Las Vegas, and now have a vacancy for another girl in your life. But mention that you are CURRENTLY attached, and the IOIs will come flying. You will get what you want faster, and with less effort. Isn't this what we want? To refine and sharpen our game?

I’ve actually taken it one step further, and told a girl about the PUA community. I even shared some techniques. She didn’t stop phoning me, so I finally told her “It's not easy to get a meeting with a guy like me.”
She said, “I'm sure you can find some time. I would be so lucky.”
So I said, “Actually, I would be the lucky one, to spend time with a woman like you.” (Emotional Push-Pull. See Swingcat)
And then she said, in a stunned voice, “Really? Do you still have the photo you took of me in the café? I've still got yours.”
“Yeah, I put it on Crimewatch.”
Even though I had told her about Push-Pull, she still fell for it!

I don't recommend you go as far as telling a girl about the community. It was purely experimental, but you get the picture.

This may give a middle finger to social conditioning, but IT WORKS. Women want what they can't have. I have only truly discovered that in the past couple of weeks. I thought that I knew it, and I used it to an extent, but ONLY NOW have I truly understood it, right to my very core, after having applied this. The results have been staggering.

Of course, you need to use the basic techniques—congruency, body language and standard game—as a foundation. All I'm saying is, throw in this nuclear bomb, and see the results for yourself. I really want all you guys to experience what I've experienced. It's scary to find out that girls really are sexual predators.

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Ryan (Executive Coach, http://www.realsocialdynamics.com/):

Real Comfort...In An Instant

Do you ever get down when a girl is literally ALL OVER YOU in the club, but then wont answer your calls the next day? When her friends literally have to drag her away from you, but then you can't get her to meet up with you to save your life? The missing piece my friends is COMFORT.

And guess what...Everything you've read on the subject is WRONG. To this day, I have yet to find someone who effectively addresses comfort. We read all these guides like "Rapport Questions to Ask" and good topics to talk about to build comfort...its all a load of shite.

There is this misconception that Comfort is the result of time spent with the girl. That time spent with a girl = comfort. This is totally incorrect. Often Comfort is a byproduct of time spent with the girl, but there is absolutely no direct correlation. In truth, Comfort is a product of understanding.

How do girls explain Comfort? Connection?

"We just clicked"
"It felt like we just knew each other"
"He just got me"

These are not time based, these are moment-based. Comfort happens in shared moments.

It's when you pause for a moment, stop thinking about what to say next, stop thinking about putting your dick in, stop thinking about everything. Just pause, look into her eyes and empathize with her. I promise you, no matter how beautiful or rich or anything she is, she is going through something. She's troubled by something, excited by something, timid about something. Pause for a moment and just realize that she has these things shes dealing with, she's going through, and while you may not know what she's going through, you do know that she's going through it.

Look at her with all your emotional generosity, and communicate to her "sweetheart, I honestly don't know what it is you're going through, but I do know you're going through it, and I want to be there to tell you it's going to be OK" Communicate it in such a way that even if she walks away a minute later, she does so feeling a little bit more at ease about her situation.

And even further, try to UNDERSTAND what it is she's going through.

A little while ago I met a girl who had just moved to the city. She had few friends, no place to live, and was basically completely overwhelmed. To top it off, this small town girl had wandered into the biggest meat-market bar in the city and had tonnes of guys trying every trick imaginable to blow their load in her. They all saw her as nothing more than the cute, easy to talk to brunette. I was one of these guys - until I paused and looked at her. In an instant I felt an overwhelming sense of sympathy for this girl. She wasn't some slut looking to get laid on a Thursday night - she was in a new place and wanted to make friends. She wasn't some powerful hottie who rejected guys for validation - she was just a sweet, small town girl, lost in the city, and in completely over her head.

I paused and looked her in the eyes, just a look of affection. All night she had put on this care-free exterior, confident, absorbing all the male attention. I slowly and lovingly pulled her in to me and gave her a warm hug. I looked her in the eyes again and asked "are you OK - really?" She looked at me with timid expression and said "really?". I nodded. "Well, I'm a little nervous, I still haven't found a job, I've still got nowhere to live, I'm running out of money, and even little things like doing my laundry are stacking up." I hugged her again, communicating nothing more than acceptance and empathy. "Sweetheart, I know it can be really daunting starting from scratch in a new city, but believe me, it's worth it, and once you get through this you'll be really glad you did." In an instant her demeanor changed, she became nothing more than a sweet girl, new in town, and unsure of herself, but completely open to me. I genuinely felt for this girl - she was really going through something and I wanted to do something nice for her. "I'll tell you what... tomorrow we'll sit down together and go through Craigslist and find you a place to live, and once we've got that taken care of the rest will fall into place".

From then on, the other guys seemed to dissolve away - like they were invisible (do you really think that after that she'd go home with the guy who asked if her nails were real then spent the next 4 hours asking her favorite movies and music, "fractionating" attraction periodically??). She spent the night, and I kept my word. I feel good helping others, and her and I are still friends.

The saying is "the self always shines through". This is true - girls see your heart, not your words. The thing is, there is no need to fake it. Just be an emotionally affectionate person. Be giving with your sympathy and genuine with your empathy.

If Comfort is something you struggle with, I suggest you watch the movie Maria Full of Grace. Think about how you would interact with her - if you could communicate with her what would you express? Would you race to get your dick in? Or would you honestly just give her the little bit of emotional support that would mean the world to her? (for those that haven't seen it, it's about a girl who moves to America with little money, not speaking English, knowing no one, and in a totally fucked situation).

These days my phone rings a lot - girls like to talk to me. They call me about how they're nervous about an upcoming exam. How they're excited about a new job. How they feel guilty about sleeping with a guy.

Adulthood can be a pretty lonely place - often all we need is just a little bit of compassion, a small amount of understanding - if even just for an instant. Where we share ourselves with someone, put ourselves out there completely open and on the line, and the other person gently tells us "hey, I see you, and it's OK". Just to be accepted and not judged. To be reassured but not patronized.

When you can give this to those you interact with, not only will you notice your calls start being returned, you'll also find the overwhelming joy of sharing compassionate moments with beautiful people.

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Carlos Xuma (http://www.powersocialskills.com/):

How to Talk to Women without "Losing It"

In almost every session of one-on-one coaching I give (and in hundreds of emails I receive every day) one concern stands out more than any other: "I always find myself 'locking up' in the presence of an attractive woman. How do I do this, face-to-face?"

This is what I call the "Real-Time" problem. When I was first learning these skills, I'd go through a massive amount of preparation, memorizing a bunch of phrases and stuff. I'd finally get past my approach anxiety and start talking with a woman. But as soon as I got the conversation started…WHAM. I'd get nervous and couldn't remember any of the stuff I'd memorized. I’d wonder, Do I say that thing about "who lies more?” Do I tease her? What was that great teasing line I thought of the other day...? Uhm...Ahhhggg...Errr....Damn!

I mean, I thought I knew it cold when I left the house, but I lost it somewhere along the way. So I'd stand there like a deer in the headlights, with no idea what to say.

Maybe you have the same problem. You thought you were prepared after reading all my advice and tips, but now you're sitting in that uncomfortable silence while she stares at you, waiting for SOMETHING to come out of your mouth. Finally she says, "Uh, I gotta get back to my friends." And as she's walking away, and you're kicking yourself, you suddenly come up with the PERFECT thing you should have said.

Ever had that happen to you?

Well, let's conquer this problem once and for all.

ENTER THE "SITUATIONAL REHEARSAL..."

Here's a technique to make sure you’re prepared to USE all the cool stuff you have memorized.

*** CAUTION: I'm not suggesting you memorize and rehearse someone else's words! You should ONLY be using your own TRUE material when talking with women. No fake stories or lying. You don't need to make stuff up to be interesting to women. ***

You see, I learned that just sitting at home reading this stuff on my computer wasn't enough. I had to practice it out loud. But even that was not enough, so I tried something a little off-the-wall, and it worked like a charm!

So here's my technique for NOT “losing it” in front of a woman...

I'm assuming that you've already walked up and said "Hi," or used some other opener to get the conversation started. I've taught you plenty of methods for that in these newsletters. And, as you know, it's not what you open with that's important, but what you say NEXT that will make the difference.

Here's what you do first...

STEP 1: CREATE YOUR OWN BRIDGE

A conversational bridge is a way of bringing up a topic towards which you want to steer the conversation.

Suppose you want to talk about your passions and interests. Just as an example, let's say your passion is photography. There are a few ways you could bring it up in conversation. For instance:

"You know, I was just thinking that you would make a fantastic photographic subject. Have you ever thought about doing a sitting?" (Note that I did NOT use any corny lines about "you should be a model.")

You could also bring it up without focusing on her:

"I was out scouting locations for some photos today. The light here is really fantastic for bringing out skin tones and eye color. Isn't it great?" (I don't have time to cover it here, but showing this kind of "vision" of the world is VERY attractive to women.)

Okay, so now we've got a couple ways to bring up our interests in conversation without bragging, AND, at the same time, to communicate to a woman that you've got a hobby in your life that brings out your passion. You want to be able to come up with this when you're out. You need to have it ready all the time, like a loaded gun, but you find yourself constantly forgetting it when the pressure is on.

Here's your next step...

STEP 2: ENGAGE YOUR MODALITIES

Modalities are simply your senses. Sight, smell, hearing, taste, and touch.

The more of your senses you use, the more quickly things are embedded in your mind.

So before you go out, you want to spend some time actually writing these words down, whether they’re the questions you want to ask, or just a list of topics you want to bring up in conversation. This will engage your "kinesthetic" modality.

Then you want to spend some time saying the words out loud. This will help you rehearse and present things smoothly, and it also engages your "auditory" modality.

After that, you want to spend some time reviewing things on paper. Read and re-read the information you want to commit to memory. This will engage your "visual" modality.

But even this is not enough for most of us. You need ONE last simple step to make this work, and it's something that not many guys know about—a special method that increases your results by about 1000%.

You need to...

STEP 3: USE THE "SITUATIONAL REHEARSAL" TECHNIQUE

Back when I was in high school, I had a good method for learning material I needed for tests. I would cram all my notes on a piece of paper, writing stuff everywhere and in every direction: in the margins, sideways, whatever.

Then, when it came time to study for a test, I would just sit down with the page, cover up sections with my hand, and try to recall the information.

Perhaps you did this, too, but what you might not realize is that you weren't learning the information so much as you were learning WHERE that information was on the paper. You got locked into recalling the information based on WHERE it was, not WHAT it was, so when you received information that you couldn’t see on a piece of paper, you would soon forget it.

That's right, it wasn't the information you were learning so much as the LOCATION of that information. It's called a "spatial relationship," and it's how your mind stores information. To take another example, if you close your eyes, chances are you can recall where almost everything is in your bedroom, or any other room with which you are familiar. So it’s important to give a RELATIONSHIP to the information to make it stick.

So here's how you use this "Situational Rehearsal" technique, based on the way your brain really learns.

In my previous example, you came up with a great way to talk about your passion, photography. And you came up with a great way to SAY it to a woman. You may even have some of my “Power Questions (TM)" that you want to memorize.

Now you have to practice recalling these things in MANY different locations, and in many different situations. For instance:

- Recall and recite when you're in the shower.

- Recall and recite when you're driving in the car.

- Recall and recite when you're watching a television show, as if you're saying it to the people on the screen.

- Call your home voice mail and recite it back as a message. (This one is great. It will put you "on the spot" AND it will give you a chance to review how you said it. You can do this with your cell phone voice mail, too.)

But if you REALLY want to improve your inner and outer game of conversation, here's a KILLER bonus technique:

- Put on a Bluetooth headset (or any cell phone ear piece, so it looks like you're talking on your phone.) Then, go out and recite what you're memorizing in public, on a city street or in a store. Other people will just assume you're talking to someone on your cell phone. This method will help you get over your fear of looking foolish in front of others, AND it gives you a killer rehearsal for saying it in front of a woman. You’ll get your shyness out of the way, and you’ll build confidence in the process.

(I used to do this all the time, and make up some pretty crazy conversations to see if I could get people around me to listen. "He hit the cop with a baseball bat??? No WAY!" Try it sometime...it's better than prank phone calling.)

By using my technique, you activate millions more neurons in your brain, which commits the words DEEP into your memory. Then this helps you pull out the words when you really need to, and you won't have any of those embarrassing gaps and silences in your conversations with women

But to make it work, you must put yourself in as many DIFFERENT situations as possible wherein you try to recall the information you're memorizing. The more situations you find where you can rehearse, the better you'll be when it counts—in front of a woman.

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Hercules:
FR: Lair XMas Party

Since September, I haven't gone out much. Maybe half a dozen times. Fatigue, work—just didn't feel like it most of the time, so I’m quite rusty and need to get back in the game. The night of the party, I figure I might as well not sleep at all, since I’ve flying out at 6:30 the following morning. So I put my dad up at my place and meet the gang at about 10:30.

I'm evidently late, as guys are scattered around, food and beer leftovers on the table. One brother with a chick on his arm greets me:

HERCULES!

The girl is visibly amused by the name. Then the rest of the pack greets me the same way.

Since I'm late, I'm not sure about the social dynamic going around, so I sit back and take it easy. After a while, I get seriously bored and want to migrate. I tell the guys I'm going out to get some street action and a feel for the crowd. Some of the boys try to extract girls, and I suggest they take off to the lounge next door, a great place for kino and rapport/seduction building.

I take the others to a club. Very lightly populated. Once inside, I head straight for a bar at the back and start socializing with the barmaids. When a place is dead like that, they are generally very receptive (they're bored crazy) and provide a great warm-up while building social value with neighboring chicks (who see you aren’t intimidated by big boobs and tight dresses.)

There is this 7-rated 2-set standing next to me, both a little chunky but upbeat. I see my fellow bros grouped together and I have a bro next to me, so I talk about getting some drinks. I order tequila shots, following the barmaid's recommendation. The 2-set is still there: proximity IOI. I open with the first thing that comes to mind (which is not always the best idea, especially when you're rusty): “Hey, I wanna ask you something. Which of my friends do you think is better looking?

Amusingly enough, they point to a different group, who look more in party mode. Nevertheless, the girls are very responsive, and some good banter, C&F, and Push-Pull ensues. For instance, they throw a line back at me and I look scandalized, stick my ass out, and tell then I've spanked for a lot less, which cracks them up. I put my hand up to signal a spank is coming. Their eyes open wide in anticipation, and then I start spanking....myself! I brag about how good my ass looks, and how hard it is, which provokes general hysteria.

The girls tell me they’re best friends. They brag about doing things together, like going to the Canadiens because one of their dads has season tickets. I reply with, "Great, I'm gonna marry YOU!" But before I even finish my sentence, they cut me off, screaming, "Nooooo, we'll marry each other!" So I follow with DYD's classic, "Then I'll divorce you and get half your tickets,” generating more hysteria.

I entertain them both for awhile, but, rusty as I am, I eventually start running low on inspiration. They pull out their cells, so I pull out mine to create some distance. I sense they are on a party rush. I'm having fun, but I'm not really attracted to either one. I think about elevating the game to a more sexual level, but I hesitate, because I feel it's still too early. The chicks aren't ready yet, plus I don't have a wing with me to separate them.

Then a couple of my bros show up and take the entertainment relay, getting both chicks going, but with no real game plan. I move around the club for awhile, and later, see the 2-set being worked by these 2 guys from the other group I mentioned earlier. I was pretty sure the girls wouldn’t respond well, and sure enough, 10 minutes later, I see them moving around the club by themselves.

A little later, I see the same guys working the 2-set again. I keep an eye on them for educational purposes, but after 2 minutes I lose track of them. Maybe 10 minutes later, I see one of the girls alone with some goof. I break them up and she tells me she lost her friend. Another 5 minutes pass, and I see the other girl isolated by the same guy that was working her before, until the bouncer removes them from the reserved seating.

Anyway, I'm getting bored and sense it's time to move. I corral the gang and suggest we go to another club.

By now it's about 1:30. When we arrive at the next club, the gang ends up in the back while I’m stuck near the entrance. I have $1.76 in cash left on me and I go the bar to suck some barmaid's pity, which fails miserably (Biatch!)

I return to my spot and see 2 babes floundering. Perfect targets! I open the blond one with, "Hey, how far do you think I can go in here with a buck and a half?” We talk about stuff. She brags about having skied for 25 years, since the age of 3, and how she beat some famous skier in competition. I return the favor by saying that if I didn't kick her ass at skiing, I would leave her behind in go-kart racing.

More banter and teasing. She asks me about my age, I tell her to guess. 32? No, higher. "But I'm not good at this!" she says. Then she asks me to guess her age. 28—duh!

Turns out she goes skiing with her ex from a 9-year relationship. I offer to take her on a challenge and go skiing with her. I # close her and continue the conversation.

I eventually start running out of inspiration again, and I turn away slightly to gather my thoughts. Out of nowhere, another bro walks in on my set and starts talking to the girl, and I sense she's not really receptive. (What's with guys barging in on my sets, anyway?) I move in between them with, "Is this guy annoying you?" and the interaction resumes. We chit-chat for a few minutes, I engage in some light kino, and then ask her:

"So, how good a kisser are you?"
She can’t really answer, other than by saying that she’s good.
"On a scale of 1 to 10? Let's find out."
I move in slowly, and she is definitely receptive.
Me: "Not bad. I'd give it at least an 8."
Her: "What?!? I'm better than an 8!!"
More kissing.
"Yeah, you're not bad at all."
She seems reassured. More kissing & kino.
Me: "We're not going to have sex tonight, that's for sure."

I don't know where this came from, but I'm sure glad I started this frame. I think it's FINALLY the integration and internalization of the material. I actually managed to think about it, on time, in the heat of the action—a first for me! She has this look on her face that I haven't seen before. A mixture of satisfaction and uncertainty. Did I mean it? Why would I talk about sex? Why would I say that?

Me: "Because I'm flying out to Florida in 3 hours, and my dad is sleeping in my bed."

More kissing, and now she's really going at it. I interrupt, saying, "I'm not kidding, I'm actually flying out soon." And I can see the look of disappointment on her face. Shit, her reaction hits me like a ton of bricks. I've realized there is a way to fuck chicks you make out with in a club—by being non-linear!

I see her friend looking at us and I decide it's time to move on, so I kiss her goodbye and close the interaction. As I leave her, my group shows up, pulls me away and we move to get our coats.

A good night, overall.

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