Mystery Hour

Thanks to Mystery for all the following:

I was sitting on a bench outside my building eating a snack and reading a very interesting physics book when a little voice said behind me, "Hi." I said "Hi" and turned around. It was a little kid on a bike who bothered to stop and talk to me. "Are you reading a book?" I said, "Yeah, on and off." The kid was maybe 10 or so. He then showed me a wound on his leg. "I fell and cut myself." "Oh man ...". I said about to say that he should get it checked out and then he said, "I put some stuff on it already." "Cool", I replied. "See ya later", he said and biked off. I know in retrospect that he wanted to talk with me because I am known in my building for having been on TV before. He wanted to say "Hi" and he did. I learned a lot just now from this kid. I knew how to OPEN a 1:1 situation and how to transition to an unrelated topic. Many PUA's can learn a great deal from the techniques of children. I believe if we adults can simply do what kids do, we will be far better off.

(Thank you to Craig for raising the subject of strippers to me.)

RULE: Don't let a stripper dance for you.

The minute a stripper dances for you (for money), you become their customer and they don't fuck their customers. DON'T let her dance for you - unless it's for free.

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RULE: Don't stale out the room.

Don't stay in the club too long. 30 minutes ought to be enough time to do what you set out to do. Only extend that time if you are already in a good conversation with a stripper. Initiate a chat faster standing than sitting. Approach a sitting two-set and convey enthusiasm. Be more exciting than any other guy was the entire evening.

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RULE: Enthusiasm is contagious.

Act enthused about something that happened to you and so will they. E.g.: "Oh my God, guess where we just were? You really missed out hanging here all this time ..."

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RULE: Convey that your day has been INCREDIBLE and then proceed to explain WHY.

Convey that meeting her is completely secondary. "NOTHING can wreck this day!" Her day was boring compared to yours. When explaining why you had more fun, paint a picture that makes her wish she was with you. "I met and hung out with Brad Pitt. He was really a cool guy."

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RULE: Don't buy a stripper a drink. Don't buy ANYONE a drink. Don't buy anyone ANYTHING. Buying things are for good friends and lovers.

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RULE: Have a performer image.

Appeal to the performer in them. Use Mystery's PHOTO ROUTINE because they are so bored in there a little look at some pix in your pocket is welcome. Let the photos convey you to be a very social and very cool guy. Talk about the excitement of being on stage - identifying with their fears on stage. Get them to think OUTSIDE of the club. When leading their imagination, lead them into DAYLIGHT not NIGHT. Most guys think NIGHT only and convey only this.

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RULE: At some point, matter of factly explain that you are well aware that all this is bullshit (pointing to the whole concept of men getting off on strippers) ... it's just an entertainment form and can make good money. Then ... drop the subject and don't talk about her world again. Now bring her to YOUR DAYLIGHT WORLD through imaginative storytelling.

RULE: Once she is out to the cafe or food place after, THEN you go VAMPIRE WORLD on her. Strippers generally LOVE the vampire romance shit. Many enjoy alternative lifestyles and ideas. Consider learning about Wicca because many consider themselves Wiccan or Pagan. Don't get suckered into BELIEVING any of the shit of course, but know the basics to bullshit.

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RULE: Use a lot of humour. Make her laugh. Laughter is a drug.

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RULE: Don't HIT on her.

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RULE: Don't compliment her anatomy.

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RULE: Treat all strippers as 10's and use a few NEGS as strippers are in a mental state of control while in their own territory. She may only be an 8 in real life but while she works she is the boss and therefore a 10.

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RULE: Be slick on the CLOSE and be ready to give her a challenge. Don't be too aggressive. Don't ASK for the number - instead lead them to ask you! "Our knowing each other has nothing to do with this club. I'm going to the IHOP for a bite after - let's continue this conversation there but don't expect much from me - I'm just hungry." Tell her that even though you aren't a customer (you are friends with the DJ), you don't want to exchange numbers inside the club - that way you can tell people you met at IHOP after her work. This club has nothing to do with you and her. Tell her to join you outside of the club to exchange numbers and only when she is in street clothes.

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RULE: Don't get HORNY.

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RULE: Most strippers are open-minded and believe in incredulous concepts such as ESP and ghosts. Use this for very interesting 'supernatural' conversation threads. Since many strippers believe themselves to be Pagan (and alternative religion), consider wearing a pentacle. Most strippers prefer rock music and long hair on a guy but some like dance music and short hair. Know which of the two generic stripper types you are talking to. It's pretty obvious which is which.

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RULE: Be BIG. Strive to be the center of attention. Don't think that the quiet seduction will work in the club. No sexual shit in the club. Once you have intrigued her enough to join you, she's already decided she likes you.

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RULE: Make her think that you think she wants you. Assume this and then be a challenge.

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RULE: Connect by having a "I live my life one day at a time' attitude. This is to mirror their lifestyle. They ALL live life this way.

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RULE: Connect using, "So many people are so judgmental about things. You seem really open and fun."

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RULE: Smile all the time. Smile when you walk in and keep it going until you leave.

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RULE: Don't drink.

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RULE: If a stripper asks, "Would you like a dance?" Don't answer the question. Instead, pattern interrupt her with, "Oh man, I'm not even HERE ... I just got back from a party where Brad Pitt was there. What a great Guy."

A Brief Q and A with Mystery on Stripper and Club PUA

Q: Do you find, staying sober in clubs is the best way to insure PUA skills?

A: Real pick up artists don't drink. Clear and simple. They may choose to ACT drunk at times, but that's it.

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Q: One factor I've had in the past, both in regular clubs AND strip clubs, is that I feel a BOREDOM factor. BTDT = "Been There, Done That."

A: Think how BTDT the girls must feel. It's YOUR job to take them away from this and interrupt their repetition. When you feel bored, decide to attempt a crash and burn (crash and learn) - this is when you notice a situation that looks impossible like a girl is with a guy. Approach and meet the guy. That'll keep you from being bored.

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Q: Doesn't anyone else feel this Boredom and nervous feeling about clubs? How can I REFRAME this - so I can go to these fishing grounds confident and productive?

A: You are only bored because you aren't approaching. Meet PEOPLE. Not only 10s, but meet them ALL. Make the club YOUR CLUB.

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Q: Since I have a photographer friend, is this a good approach? I.e.: I can get you hooked up for modeling work? Are you interested? Isn't this a standard Ross Approach?

A: Ross or not, too many people use the "Are you a model" approach, especially in LA. Not only that, but the particularly gorgeous girls already ARE models. Consider bringing pix with you and have the girl enjoy looking through them with you (Mystery's Photo Routine). This is good, but don't suggest taking photos of her until you have a reason to - like you are already getting along with her.

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Q: Is this Modeling approach so cliche, so overused by AFCs - that girls reject it? Fact: I get that disbelieving attitude often and it hasn't worked well for me. If so, any new way TO REFRAME the old "Modeling jobs" PU for success?

A: Don't bother with the modeling job PU - it's AFC. It doesn't convey your personality. It instead promises something you have no reason to give except that you want to fuck her. Why convey that? By the fact that this approach hasn't worked for you, you should already have your answer. Just show some pix you took. Not a portfolio. Make it look impromptu like you just got them developed today. This is how one uses photos to convey personality.

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Q: As time goes on - to me - these clubs get LOUDER AND LOUDER. I hate the ringing in my ears so I have sometimes worn earplugs. Then I feel like a LOSER with something (somewhat visible in my ear). Are earplugs considered a sign of a Loser? In strip clubs, with the volume factor, I rarely sit in the front (at the stage). Is the stage the best place to start in a strip club - because you're more visible?

A: My stripper ex-girlfriends (XGFs) all called that area "Pervert's Alley". Sit further back - NEVER sit in the alley. When a stripper approaches you, immediately be interesting by changing the subject to, "Did you know Elvis dyed his hair?" Notice how you are answering her "Would you like a dance?" with a completely off the wall topic. You ZIG and ZAG the conversation this way. Don't give her the stereotypical conversation threads she expects from the next 100 guys she talks to. Entertain her this way. Stay away from asking about HER. Talk about YOU. NEG's are good. "Are those nails real? No? Oh. Well ... they're still nice :)" Then (NEVER get a dance from a girl you WANT) get her OUT of the place. Remind her that you are NOT her customer. Tell her you are friends with the DJ or something and just came to visit. This will put her guard down. You sound like you are already IN. "Oh I'm not a customer."

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Q: If you sit at the stage, do you have to at least tip $1 bills to not look like a total loser?

A: DO NOT sit at the stage - that's a loser thing to do. Hang with the DJ - meet him by asking him a bunch of questions like, "Hey dude, how did he become a DJ. How do I get a gig like this?" Then hang with him. Build rapport. He is your IN.

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Q: Can a PUA NOT tip at all and still be neutral for picking up women?

A: DO NOT pay for table dances. I have gotten FREE dances and I'll accept those but that's it. The moment you become a CUSTOMER, it's OVER for you.

Mystery on Group set theory: It's in my unedited book and No9 (a wingman) is helping to make it all clear. Basically, the main part of the theory is that just walking up to a girl 1:1 is not as good as 1:2 or 1:3 or even 1:4. In fact, save for voice and attention limitations (all merely technical issues), the larger the group the better for you. That is why a comedian with his 1:100 is even BETTER. If you approach a 2set (1:2) you do not go straight for the target girl. You instead address both of them equally with your opener and then keep the next few minutes of conversation towards the other girl (the negs on the target to present a challenge. No matter how big the group set is, you have to disarm (gain the respect of) all the obstacles before you can go for the target. However, it is hundreds of times easier to disarm a group if you have been seen with other girls first. Merging YOUR group with another group is preferred especially when you are 'clothed' with women. Just yesterday, there was a 5 set and the MAIN obstacle (every group has THAT particular HB blond. So before I continued with the target (who was receptive and interested) I had to gain the respect of the obstacle in this 5 set. Before I have a chance to speak with your friend I have to disarm you. This is because you have a very protective nature. You may have the an adventurous side yourself but you protect your friends. This protective nature will likely make you a good mother." Done. She liked me from then on. I was invited to their place a few minutes later. I have No-9 and his 2 wings as witness to this. I have great insight into the DETAILS of group sets. For instance, you must choose your target and stick to her. Don't do a switch out: deciding to go instead for another girl in the set, especially once you went light kino with the first girl. That was my failure yesterday. The target liked me and I was caressing her on the couch. She took off for a second and the other girl who liked me too sat beside me. I really like the challenge of the HB too so I started going kino on her as well. She seemed to like it. Both girls liked me and I liked both girls. Only there was no bi-fem tendencies on pinging for that info. The two went up stairs and didn't come down for 10 minutes. When they came down they were COLD. That was it. I lost them. Good round though and I had all around fun and an educational time. I discovered that it is a damage control situation when two girls like you. You would think you want that. No. Instead, you want only one to really like you and the others to merely accept and respect you. If two girls like you, the solution is found in the CHOOSE GINO GAMBIT. In fact, CHOOSE GINO is a damage control gambit. Two girls like you but they aren't going to a threesome. What do you do? If you pick one or the other, you lose both. This is because by choosing one, you alienate the other and this would also create a rift in their relationship. YOU become a wedge. They have more loyalty to each other than a new guy, no matter HOW cool he is. Most PUA's believe this situation to be impossible to win because there are only two choices: you pick either girl A or B. There is a THIRD choice though. CHOOSE GINO. Gino was a guy I met in L.A. in the spring of 2000. He had a problem: two girls liked him at the same time. The girls were friends. He said to them, "All 3 of us have come to a point where the path we are walking narrows. Both of you are really amazing people and that is why you are friends to each other. Only 1 of you can join me though. I'm going to go for a little walk and one of you will choose Gino and join me in a moment ... please don't leave me walking alone." He then walked off slowly and the girls stood there debating who gets to CHOOSE GINO. (The words are paraphrased. At the time I was more into the CONCEPT than the words. There may be better ways to convey the concept to the girls.) I had put myself into the situation yesterday by accident (not being able to SELECT the one I wanted) and could have used the CHOOSE GINO gambit to get a girl only I hadn't even realized that I was in that position at the time.

Another situation occurred the previous evening. A two set (1:2) sat against a wall in the couch area of a club. I approached, disarmed the obstacle and went 2set with a BETTER target sat next to me. So I decided to PAWN my 2set to get the new target. Simply by having 2 girls present with you will usually be enough to gain the respect of the target immediately. You have VERY THIN bitch shields this way. I number closed her in 15 minutes. Then went back to continue with the original 2 set but they staled out. That is why they are PAWNS. You use them to LOOK good but usually don't get them. To be truthful, the reason I was unable to kino with both of them, too. I have a tough time CHOOSING. I could have used CHOOSE GINO there, too. Two examples is all I need to learn my lesson. And a great set of lessons these were.